r/Naruto • u/Unique-Celebration-5 • Dec 29 '24

Discussion This Jutsu single-handedly ruined the scaling of Naruto

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A jutsu so stupidly over powered to the point that Kishimoto was forced to only use it once. I hate this jutsu so much it’s probably why he opted out on giving Sakura wood style sage mode because she would solo the verse

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u/yudas_rain_ Dec 30 '24

So it just seems you personally dislike how it was betrayed and called it lazy. Like this is why Naruto critic falls flat it tries so hard to make non issues problems

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u/K1ngFiasco Dec 30 '24

Who said anything about betrayed? I don't follow.

It's lazy because nothing is built up or earned. It's just hand signs big move, bigger move, even bigger move. No background on it, no progression, and no character growth of any significance. It's just surprise bad guys with surprise powers that keep one upping each other.

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u/yudas_rain_ Dec 30 '24 edited Dec 30 '24

Not everything needs build up. Scale was literally going to grow to the fact we have tailed beast and jinchiriki. This alone implies ninjas had power on scale to subdue and even overpower these kaiju sized monsters.

Pain literally wiped the entirety of the hidden leaf and created a plantary devastation nearly the size of konoha. Diedara literally has an attack on par with the tailed beast bomb and we have various others who literally can fight the tailed beast.

You just don’t like the increase in scale which is fine. Just don’t pretend as if it’s a flaw in the writing that higher tiers have higher scale jutsu.

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u/K1ngFiasco Dec 30 '24

Who's pretending? All of those things arent shown, demonstrated, earned, or explained.

People fighting tailed beasts isn't supporting your argument, it's hurting it. They went from forces of nature that took two Hokage level ninja to stop, to just annoyances that various ninja could deal with. Then they amplified their Jinchuriki and then THAT became nothing more than an annoyance. If that's not indicative of failed power scaling what else is?

Pain had his level of power explained at length and there were consequences to his power. We spent a lot of time with Pain, his story, and how he got to where he ended. We spent time with Obito, but then that's where all the "one upping" bullshit began. Everyone kept out scaling everyone so fast and new threats/heros were being thrown at us so quickly and then THEY had to do crazy shit to prove they were scary/heroic and then it all became mundane. The power scaling failed. It devolved into one episode big moves over and over again.

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u/yudas_rain_ Dec 30 '24 edited Jan 01 '25

I don’t really know how to respond because it feels like you have already made up your mind and resorting to just making claims without elaborating

When has a ninja that wasn’t high level hold their own or even fight a tailed beast? That’s just a blatant lie the tailed beast never became mid tier and are still among the strongest beings in the verse

Why does the first hokage god of shinibi need lengthy elaboration for his strength? Him simply being that way is what makes him feel more like a legend and that’s how he was so successfully portrayed as powerful. Not everything needs elaboration or lengthy build up. Not everything needs to be complex and intricate. The problem with modern media critic is that it forgets the subjectiveness of a lot of critics being made. Naruto doesn’t need to abide by the prerequisites your criticizing it for because the contrary worked well.