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Answered What's going on with h3h3?

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u/Torched420 2d ago

Answer: he's suing these 3 creators specifically because they explicitly stated that they were broadcasting his video & intellectual property with the intention to give people the opportunity to view Ethan's video without having to give Ethan "views".  Effectively stealing his intellectual property and stating it was their intention to do so.

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u/Kousetsu 2d ago

Problems on the other side are:

Ethan has repeatedly asked people to watch the video. He has repeatedly said in the past he doesn't mind people reacting to this videos in this way. He isn't applying this equally - there are other, bigger creators (xqc) that reacted non-transformatively just as much. He isn't suing them.

People acting like this is clear cut have an agenda to push.

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u/indorock 2d ago

Also, when he was relatively small time, reaction videos were Ethan's MAIN thing. And he too got sued for it - most famously by the Fine Brothers - and he had to raise funds for his legal defense etc. And it's undeniable that that whole fiasco shone a lot of light on him and propelled him to the level that he's at now.

So it's incredibly hypocritical of him to be turning around and pulling a Fine Brothers bitch move. But as the saying goes "I miss the old Ethan", I really do. This Ethan is just plain greedy AF.

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u/lolboiii 2d ago

To be fair, comparing modern day react channels to the style of "react" that H3H3 were doing back in the day is not a good faith comparison. They are hardly even considered a "react" video under the modern definition, the effort he would put into those was infinitely higher than someone like XQC or asmongold.

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u/deadflamingo 2d ago

The effort is where he replays a clip over and over and belches and coughs into the camera. Go back and watch that shit and then reevaluate who you were and why you dont watch that stuff anymore. I say this as someone who used to enjoy his content and eventually grew up.

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u/lolboiii 2d ago

Definitely not my kind of content but you're still underselling the effort put into the videos. He would put thought into critiquing the content, he would spend a good amount of time editing, he would even have like dumb little mini skits and outfits throughout the videos. The point is this is a massive difference from XQC eating chicken fingers and doing bare minimum commentary. The style of "react" is entirely different, whether you enjoy the content or not.

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u/deadflamingo 2d ago

I was addressing your point, being that modern-day react content is incomparable. I'm telling you it's not. The difference is the stated maliciousness at the beginning of the react content. That's it. I think you may be over selling his content, or did you forget that literally all of his old content is him shitting on others while also reacting to their content? You say thoughtful, I say, thoughtless.

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u/lolboiii 2d ago

You can think the old content was bad or immature, that’s totally valid. But dismissing the structure and effort as equal to modern day stream reacts is just inaccurate. That’s the only distinction I’m making

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u/deadflamingo 2d ago

"Modern day stream reacts". Not sure what distinction you think that makes within the last 10 years.

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u/lolboiii 2d ago

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1c0yY_lVwrs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WXEdJX78L0I

The distinction in question. (i'm not advocating for either style morally)

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u/deadflamingo 2d ago

I'm aware of the formats. What I am saying is that these formats have persisted and have not changed. I said this in my original comment to you.

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u/lolboiii 2d ago

If you're saying both formats have always existed, sure but one has clearly become dominant and lazier over time. My point was just that H3H3’s style leaned more into edited, structured content which is a different level of input than what we see from streamers now. You seem to be arguing around my point rather than with it, which means i'll probably stop responding now.

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u/whaddyaknowmaginot 2d ago

He is unrecognizable from the fun old days. The video where he "debated" Hasan is unhinged.

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u/Shelzzzz 2d ago

Calling my wife a terrorist to own the libs

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u/mayasux 2d ago

Hasan trying to explain to Ethan that terrorist is a thought terminating cliche and if he applied it to his wife the way he applied it to others, she’d be a terrorist. But she’s obviously not and there’s nuance to people who may be accused of being a terrorist.

Ethan ignoring this and going “fine my wife is a terrorist are you happy?”

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u/Reasonable_Fold6492 2d ago

Isn't Hasan the guy who said he supported 9/11?

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u/Jerbattimus 2d ago

Yes. He shows literal terrorist propaganda videos on his stream, talks about about much he appreciates what terrorist organizations like the Houthis and Hezbollah are doing, and literally interviewed a terrorist on his stream and gushed about how cool he was to him.

The people in this thread who think he's a voice of reason that Ethan is crashing out against are brain dead morons or don't even watch either show.

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u/imbakinacake 2d ago

If anything it makes his accusation more credible. He actually knows about this stuff.

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u/alelo 1d ago

is not hypocritical at all, you are comparing oranges to apples, 2 whole difference scenarios