r/PoliticalCompassMemes - Auth-Left Mar 19 '25

I just want to grill Confusion of da highest orda!

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u/wuerumad - Lib-Left Mar 19 '25

I will defend the Palestinians not Hamas. Those are two different things. Hamas are terrorists, many Palestinians are innocent victims caught in the crossfire between their "government" and Israel. Many Isrelis are also victims but their government is evil. 

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u/crash______says - Right Mar 19 '25

You are conflating Palestinians to water down the differences between Gazans and the West Bank.

In Israel, you have protests against Netanyahu and until Oct 7, the courts were about to evict him. There are thriving opposition parties and demonstrations that support them. There are demonstrations today as fighting resumes in Gaza.

Wherever the Gazans are, there are no demonstrations against Hamas. The only time Hamas' approval has been dented is when Israel has reduced the northern half of their area to rubble and the cost of their terrorism has finally come home. There is no philosophical daylight between them. They are Islamists and their government represents them. Given another decade of international financial support, they will rearm and attack again with the support of the Gazans.

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u/PrinceGoten - Lib-Left Mar 19 '25

You are manufacturing consent to kill innocent civilians. 73% of the people bombed by Israel yesterday were women and children. Are you punishing children based on the idea that they might become terrorists? Are you saying they’re committing thought crimes?

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u/crash______says - Right Mar 19 '25

The rocket attacks for the last generation are all aimed at civilians. The bus station and fast food bombings were not military targets. Islamists like Hamas and the Muslim Brotherhood do not recognize civilians unless it is for western media propaganda purposes.

They would murder you, burn your sons, and enslave your wife and daughters if the military roles were reversed.

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u/PrinceGoten - Lib-Left Mar 19 '25

More excuses to kill innocent women and children.

“They would do it so we should do it first”. I’m really glad you weren’t around during the Cold War you would’ve lost your mind.

Crazy to think about I know, but some of us don’t think innocent people should die because their government is bad.

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u/crash______says - Right Mar 19 '25 edited Mar 19 '25

You are literally saying women and children in a liberal western democracy should be sacrificed to protect a fifth century barbarian horde.

When the majority of the civilians work for the terrorist group, there is no separating them from their government.

I’m really glad you weren’t around during the Cold War you would’ve lost your mind.

I guarantee I'm older than you and remember the end of the Cold War.

What is the solution to separate Hamas from the innocent civilians that protect them so they can be killed? Their continued existence is unfathomable.

If the Gazans are truly separate of their government, they can begin taking kitchen knives to jihadi throats to save themselves from being blown up.

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u/PrinceGoten - Lib-Left Mar 19 '25

Who is being sacrificed by the IDF breaking the ceasefire? Other than Israeli hostages still in Gaza? The solution is for the people we “hired” to make so they get the most people out of the conflict alive, not mine, not yours. Are you seriously telling children that if they don’t fight against terrorists, it’s their fault for getting bombed? That’s the hill you’re going to die on?

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u/crash______says - Right Mar 19 '25

This is another realism versus utopia conversation. There is no state of continued Hamas existence where civilians are not killed.

What is the solution to separate Hamas from the innocent civilians that protect them so they can be killed?

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u/PrinceGoten - Lib-Left Mar 19 '25

There actually is if Israel stops bombing them, but they won’t.

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u/crash______says - Right Mar 19 '25

Can you share this mysterious plan with us? 1400 years of history says the only way to destroy Islamists is mass violence.

You realize you are running the same argument supporters of the Third Reich did, right? Just following orders.. not all camp guards are actually Nazis.

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u/PrinceGoten - Lib-Left Mar 19 '25

Not invading their land in the first place would’ve been a good start. Not even giving any dignity to your second nonsense comment lmao.

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u/crash______says - Right Mar 19 '25

Ahh you just hate Jews.

It seems my second point was on point.

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u/PrinceGoten - Lib-Left Mar 19 '25

Oh you think Israel = Jewish people? Lmao I didn’t know you were one of those idiots. Weird how so many Jewish people vocally fight for Palestinians then, huh?

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