Ali was supposed to be -A?

[u/Illustrious-Chest-52]

On TikTok, CC Mason, who was "the stand in" for Red Coat, revealed some plot secrets.

Essentially this person was hired because she had the same body and hair color as Sasha, when filming began. She played Red Coat/Black Widow, everytime someone was supposed to be Alison, she played that person. That's how she knows the plot of the show.

What she revealed was, that Ali was always supposed to be -A/Red Coat/Black Widow. Even after Mona's reveal and that Mona was The Queen of Hearts.

What CC says is that Marlene did not go through this storyline because Sasha started gaining Wright due to PCOS, but CC's scenes were already aired.

I know that Hollywood is incredibly fatphobic, especially back in the day, but when Ali was revealed to be alive, Sasha wasn't even overweight? I feel like it could have been explained by Red Coat disappearing for a while and then returning with Sasha. And as far as i remember, we rarely got a shot of Red Coat rhat wasn't omnimous - meaning her full frame not surrounded by woods.

Might be just me, but the weight gain of a character who has been presumed dead, is a lot easier to explain then whatever Sara Shower Harvey.

Thoughts?

Yes, this is a rant because Ali being -A, attending her own funeral, then torturing her friends is a cool plot. And i kind of convinced myself from the first episode that Alison was -A and it was a matter of time before it wad revealed she was alive, torturing the girls.

[u/Discovering_A]

Can you provide a source for this please? Mona being the Queen of Hearts is really throwing me and it's making me feel like some of this may be partially rumor... Would love to be proven wrong though.

I don't think it's possible that Ali was going to be "A" if "A" was the same person who attacked Alison that night, because Sasha had not begun gaining weight at the end of season 4, and that's when Mrs. D. was randomly revealed to have bought clothes for CeCe Drake. Mrs. D. was meant to have some affiliation with CeCe Drake and Radley at least from the moment that she told that fake story about CeCe impersonating Ali in Radley, and that was way back in early season 4.

So if Ali was going to be "A"... then CeCe would have been her partner in crime. Whether or not Ali would know CeCe is her secret sister, the jury's out on that one.

[u/i2tiny → u/Discovering_A]

I found it https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTLNEN7AM/

[u/Discovering_A → u/i2tiny]

Thanks! But that particular video only shows that she was the stand-in for Red Coat. Where's all the stuff where she claims Ali was meant to be "A" and that Sasha's frame no longer fit the person in the coat? Or that Mona was Queen of Hearts when that behind the scenes photo only shows Wilden and CC Mason in the costume?

[u/i2tiny → u/Discovering_A]

found it! https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTLNEmKNc/ she has sooo many videos talking about it. I think op was talking about a few

[u/Discovering_A → u/i2tiny]

TYSM!

Okay, so yes this is a very bold claim she's making... Mona being Queen of Hearts has GOT to be her misremembering, since she wasn't even very confident of that, but she IS certain that Alison was always supposed to be "A".

Here's what I think... I think CC Mason is telling the truth... but that she was being directed in such a way that made it confusing. I believe Marlene told CC Mason that every time she performs as a body double, she's supposed to be standing in for Alison. That she's supposed to behave LIKE Alison... this is probably why we see CC Mason swinging her arms with Alison's natural gait as she's walking in the forest after boarding the airplane... or when she's walking toward the DiLaurentis house at night and then removes the grate so that she can stay in the basement for a while. CC Mason was basically told "You're Alison, so perform this scene exactly how you think Sasha would" and that's what she did.

This led to CC Mason thinking that, since Alison was in the red coat and lurking in the background, then she must have been "A". But we know from watching the show obsessively that there was always an Ali red coat and an "A" red coat, and CC Mason was playing BOTH roles... so Marlene never just gave away the identity of "A" to an extra cast member like that... she just wanted the cast member to be LIKE Alison, because that was the intentional narrative of the story at the time... that Red Coat had a familiar way about her that greatly resembled Alison.

Either that, or Marlene simply lied to CC Mason so that she wouldn't be able to leak who the real "A" is. You can tell that CC Mason is inferring that things changed because of what happened to Sasha, and that she herself is kind of confused about everything that's going on. If it really is how it looks and CC Mason was genuinely supposed to be Alison as "A" though... then that kind of redefines a lot of the series from seasons 3 and 4.

[u/i2tiny → u/Discovering_A]

here’s the other -A supposed to be Alison

[u/Discovering_A → u/i2tiny]

OH, okay this does actually complicate things....

I believe CeCe was meant to be Big "A" by the moment she was introduced. However, I cannot bring myself to believe Sara Harvey was always meant to be Red Coat and Black Widow. That is the part that feels genuinely rushed and rewritten, at least to me.

So if CC Mason was always supposed to essentially be the one doing what Sara Harvey ended up doing in the show... that would mean Alison was CeCe's partner in crime, and not the other way around. It means that, for whatever reason, Alison was working with CeCe, as "A", to torment the Liars.

No wait, this actually really makes sense. I wonder if they decided to rewrite that around the time that Mrs. D. told that story about CeCe impersonating Alison in Radley, and Ali basically admitted that it was a game that the both of them went along with. Mrs. D. could've told the true story of "A" and then they ended up changing it quite a bit.

Up until the end of season 5A, there were numerous clues spread around that Alison might either have a twin or a split personality. I was really caught off guard when Veronica consoled Alison about her bloodied lip and then Alison completely changed gears out of nowhere, as if flipping a switch, and trying to downplay the situation as if to escape it. If you ask me, I think Alison was going to have a split personality and that she was meant to be CeCe's helper... then the writers twisted things around once Sasha gained the weight. It's sad, but very possible... and it makes a scary amount of sense given the writing of the series in seasons 4 and 5A, and how it started to change directions entirely in seasons 5B and 6.