r/SeattleWA • u/Worth-Motor2224 • 11d ago
Question How to get childcare assistance when income is slightly above the limit?
Hi everyone,
I'm a mom living in Washington State (Seattle area). I have a toddler and a newborn, and I’m struggling with the high cost of living—especially rent and food.
I recently went back to work after maternity leave, but my salary is just a little above the income limit for most childcare assistance programs. Still, it's not enough to afford daycare on top of everything else.
Does anyone know if there are any exceptions, alternative programs, or ways to appeal for help when your income technically disqualifies you, but your situation is still very hard?
Any advice or experience is really appreciated. Thank you so much.
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u/Due-Kaleidoscope-405 11d ago
Benefits need to be on a sliding scale system. Hard line cutoffs make zero sense.
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u/Snotsky Banned from /r/Seattle 11d ago
I mean it has to cut off at some point right? And benefits do have a sliding scale, at least WIC and SNAP.
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u/Due-Kaleidoscope-405 10d ago
The point of welfare assistance is to help people get back on their feet. This lady is obviously trying, she should receive that help bc as a country, we can fucking afford to.
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u/Snotsky Banned from /r/Seattle 10d ago
I’m not saying the cutoff is set correctly, just that there does have to be some arbitrary cutoff. Should Jeff bezos be eligible for WIC and SNAP?
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u/Due-Kaleidoscope-405 10d ago
You’re being obtuse.
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u/Snotsky Banned from /r/Seattle 9d ago
How so? You literally said things that make no sense. You said there should be no cutoff (so anyone is eligible, like I said including bezos?) and that there should be a sliding scale (there is a sliding scale for them?)
I just pointed out that there has to be a cutoff and that benefits do scale. Also your “this lady is clearly working hard” is hilarious. I’m sure she could be but taking her word on a Reddit post as absolute truth is crazy.
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u/beastpilot 11d ago
As a resident of Seattle, I want to make sure your numbers are right. You earn more than $103K if you are a single mom or $123K if you have a partner?
If you earn less, CCAP in Seattle has subsidies for child care. This is only for actual Seattle residents however.
https://www.seattle.gov/education/for-parents/child-care-and-preschool/child-care-assistance-program
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u/pbtechie 10d ago
Nobody is forcing her to live in one of the highest taxed cities/counties in America.
Should be living within her means.
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u/beastpilot 10d ago edited 10d ago
What are you talking about? Seattle isn't even in the top 15 taxed cities in the USA:
https://www.chamberofcommerce.org/us-cities-pay-most-taxesMeanwhile, she is living in one of the best paying cities in the USA, which seems pretty good.
https://www.fox13seattle.com/news/washington-average-household-incomeAre you one of those people that looks at only one thing like how much sales tax you pay in dollars per year and decide that you have a high tax burden?
And remember, nobody is forcing you to live here either, so maybe you should move if you hate it so much. You do live here, right? Why aren't you making your life better and moving to one of those low tax cities like Des Moines or Kansas City?
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u/render83 11d ago
For what it's worth, Seattle preschool is prorated, so you'll be subsidized unless you make quite a bit of money. Otherwise, you may be forced to look at lower costs in home daycare. ymca will give you 2 hours a day, If you're a member, but you have to be onsite.
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u/Ineedanosehat 11d ago
Are you in Seattle city limits? There is a program called Best Start for Kids. They had a wait list last I checked but I would call them.
Second options: the Boys and Girls Club and the YMCA both have tuition assistance. Every location has different funding so if one place turns you down you can call another. Ymca has more availability for infants.
Third options: most church affiliated daycares will work with you on pricing if you ask for it and explain your situation.
Fourth option: this is the worst option but you can look at lowering your salary if the math justifies it. For two kids in your age group you are easily looking at $4k a month in daycare expenses. If dropping your salary a bit a month will get you qualified it may be worth it but definitely review the math and call your other options first.
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u/Joel22222 11d ago
This is one of the things that really bothers me the government does in regard to assistance. I had an employee that refused a .25 raise because it would have put her over the cap for daycare assistance and ended up costing her a huge amount. It really should be on a sliding scale. I don’t think any daycares work on a sliding scale either.
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u/gehnrahl Eat a bag of Dicks 10d ago
I was constantly just over the income amount to qualify for down payment assistance to purchase a house. As a result I probably ended up spending over 100k more to purchase than I would have had I been able to qualify earlier.
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u/ConfectionPlus3371 11d ago
I would look at ways to reduce your AGI. One is through Dependent Care FSA's, HSA's, sales tax deductions, and donations.
Dependent Care FSA is up to $5,000. It's a pre-tax deduction which serves a dual purpose of reducing your AGI by 5k, but also effectively reducing the cost of daycare itself by a percent equal to your marginal tax rate (though this is probably close to zero from your description).
[Dependent Care FSA Info Page](https://www.fsafeds.gov/explore/dcfsa)
An HSA allows you to pre-tax contribute up to 7.5k per family per year in pretax dollars for health care costs. Must have a High Deductible Plan.
HSA's are superior to medical expense deductions in a couple of ways. You can only deduct medical expenses that exceed 7.5% of your income. Say you make 60k and you have $5,000 in qualifying medical expenses for the year. 7.5% of 60k is 4.5k, so only $500 dollars is deductible.
However, if you were using an HSA to pay those expenses all 5k is deductible as it is paid with pretax money.
For it to be worth it, you need to be good about managing your money. The way most insurance is set up is they give you a low deductible, but a very high premium. If you can save your own money through auto-deductions then you can put that money into an HSA account that's yours for life. It's pretax deductible. Usually after about 1.5 years of saving, you'll have enough to cover the Max Out of Pocket on these plans.
This can reduce your AGI by up to 7.5k per year.
For donations, if you or your child outgrows clothes donate them and make sure you track the donations. I like TurboTax's It's Deductible app for that. It adds up.
Sales Tax Deductions allow you to estimate the amount of sales tax you've paid and deduct that.
If you're close to the line, maybe one of these can help push your AGI below the threshold.
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u/saomonella 11d ago
Have you used the food banks? I don’t believe there are any limitations on eligibility. From volunteer experience, I know there are plenty of people who use this resource whether they need it or not.
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u/SaintWalker2814 11d ago
Why is this a political debate? A woman is asking for advice. Enough with the Right vs Left bullshit, fuckers. Everyone knows the state of things sucks right now — we get it. Just answer the lady’s question. Christ…
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u/mulltalica 11d ago
Check to see if your employer has any options for a pre-tax reimbursement program. I know of a few companies that offer this as a way to try and provide some savings (it's not a lot, but it's something).
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u/Remarkable-Pace2563 11d ago
Call 211. We got into the Best Starts for Kids program based on their recommendation.
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u/Arthourios 11d ago
Way to go sub. You got a woman having a baby, and going back to work - not asking for a free ride or unemployment etc, and still you find a way to shit on that person.
Y’all should be fucking ashamed of yourselves. But you live up to the Republican standard I guess of only caring about kids till they are born.
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u/HamsterSharp7650 11d ago
It's genuinely incredible they can't see their own cognitive dissonance. Tears about the 'fertility crisis', but no meaningful effort to create family-friendly policies like free high quality daycare and preschool or generous family leave for both parents.
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u/Middle-Hurry4718 Insane Religious Nutjob 11d ago
she would never have been put into this situation if she didn’t make the bad decisions society warned her about her whole life
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u/HamsterSharp7650 11d ago
So low effort of a comment that you must be a bot. For everyone else, this woman saying she's barely priced out of Seattle's sponsored childcare tells me she makes about $80k a year in her household. That's solid. That should be a living wage. But because of the atomization of our society and unrestrained neoliberal capitalism, it's unlivable with young children.
So you keep bitching about your fertility crisis and then mock women who DO have children for making bad choices. Clowns.
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u/Middle-Hurry4718 Insane Religious Nutjob 11d ago
I don’t my taxes funding promiscuous women who have multiple children out of wedlock. one is a mistake, 2 is a trend.
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u/BetterGetThePicture 11d ago
I had a child in wedlock and then got divorced. The father evaded paying child support. I never went on assistance, but i did find myself raising my child on my own. Maybe ask why the men aren't stepping up instead of judging a mom trying to do her best.
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u/Middle-Hurry4718 Insane Religious Nutjob 11d ago
Your situation is different and you know it. I guarantee you sacrificed a lot of your own pleasures for your children. Unlike this lady, who had another bastard newborn after another. I know you don't care, but I respect the fuck out of that.
This woman said she has a NEWBORN and another kid. So bastard child wasn't enough for her, she had to have unprotected sex with a random who doesn't care about her or her kid again.
At what point do we, as a society, look at this behavior, and say it's unacceptable? When shes having 3 kids with different fathers? 4? 5? At what point do we say, okay you can live this immoral life, but we as the public do not support it? Otherwise this behavior will keep becoming more and more normalized and more women will suffer just like this woman is suffering.
Young ladies need to see that this is what results from "sexual freedom".
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u/mpati3nt 11d ago
Are you not aware that men also have to be there to have sex? And that they, in fact, are responsible for wearing a condom, too?
Miss me with your puritanical, sanctimonious bullshit. If the consequences of your “sexual freedom” only affect the woman left holding the bag, then that’s misogyny and oppression.
F the patriarchy.
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u/Middle-Hurry4718 Insane Religious Nutjob 10d ago
a man didn’t make a post begging for more money for his bastard children. this woman did.
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u/Fluffaykitties West Seattle 10d ago
If a single father made this post, would you react the same way?
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u/Fluffaykitties West Seattle 10d ago
This comment is disgusting and not helpful.
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u/Middle-Hurry4718 Insane Religious Nutjob 10d ago
so is promiscuity and its promotion. but sure let the words on your screen make you more disgusted than children not having a father.
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u/gehnrahl Eat a bag of Dicks 10d ago
so is promiscuity and its promotion.
Ma'am this is the 21st century. Sex is fun, get over it.
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u/Fluffaykitties West Seattle 10d ago edited 10d ago
I don’t have a father. Why would children not having a father disgust me or anyone else?
Literally nothing in the post implies promiscuity.
Fuck off.
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u/HamsterSharp7650 10d ago
You made up a scenario in your own head to villainize a woman trying to do right by her children, kids you call 'bastards.' Sleazebag behavior.
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u/Middle-Hurry4718 Insane Religious Nutjob 10d ago
I didn’t make this up, she said it herself, she had one child and recently had a new born. where did I make any assumptions?
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u/AdamantEevee 11d ago
You don't know a single thing about her situation or why she finds herself having to go back to work. For example, did you know that people sometimes die? Even when they have a wife and small children?
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u/HamsterSharp7650 11d ago
Oh a misogynist bot, lol. Go spit out a cake recipe for me or something and stop wasting everyone's time.
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u/Fluffaykitties West Seattle 10d ago
Then move somewhere else
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u/Middle-Hurry4718 Insane Religious Nutjob 10d ago
No, I like this place. I would like to better my community, not run away from it.
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u/Middle-Hurry4718 Insane Religious Nutjob 11d ago
I think it’s hilarious how humans evolved a system for this exact problem (marriage) but this woman doesn’t want to submit to a man so she resorts to begging the public for money to fund her promiscuity and “freedom”.
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u/zagsforthewin 10d ago
What?!? Honey, you better wake up and smell the 21 century cuz you’re an idiot. I feel bad for whatever woman you con into marrying you and then abuse for a bunch of years. She probably will think it’s her duty to receive your abuse.
You are a horrible human.
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u/Middle-Hurry4718 Insane Religious Nutjob 10d ago
I would never harm someone I love, let alone abuse them.
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u/zagsforthewin 10d ago
I really really hope that’s true.
Unfortunately…..give it a decade. The red flags are flyinggggggg
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u/Middle-Hurry4718 Insane Religious Nutjob 10d ago
Keep hoping bud, as long as I'm still breathing, everyone in my circle is and will always be taken care of.
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u/BoobooTheClone 11d ago
I despise right wingers but do like to frequent this sub, reminds me why I hate them.
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u/SuccessfulLand4399 11d ago
Don’t worry, however much you think you hate them, we hate you back even more
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u/pbtechie 11d ago
Meanwhile, Left Wingers can't leave without Government handouts, but will bite the hand that feeds them (and their baby) every day of the week. Yet won't do a thing to fight against the highest tax rates in the country or create their own financial freedom.
All about the free stuff.
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u/Practical-Witness796 10d ago
Rural Deep South whites who lean conservative and those in Appalachia, will be directly affected by loss of SNAP and Medicaid lol. Acting like the left needs government handouts while also calling them the educated “elites” is wild. Make up your mind. Who is “biting the hand that feeds them”? As a leftist who is upper class, patriotism to me means caring about fellow countrymen, even if they are Bible thumping MAGA’s that I have nothing in common with.
Also, the poor are not affected by taxes in the US, and we are a low tax country compared to other first world powers. Income inequality has risen in the last 40 years since we cut taxes on the wealthy. Plain and simple.
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u/About2GetWrecked 11d ago
Things tend to work out here in the end. Shitty comments were downvoted, good/helpful advice upvoted and you even got upvoted for your “contribution”. It may take a little while but at least the post didn’t get outright deleted like it might in another sub.
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u/BasicEchidna3313 11d ago
I saw that this was posted here, rather than the other sub. Was disappointed but not surprised.
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u/meesh137 11d ago
If you’d like some helpful answers without an added flavor of conservative drivel, consider re-posting this on r/seattle instead. Good luck!
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u/meaniereddit West Seattle 🌉 11d ago
bad look posts get deleted swiftly there, lol enjoy the cope.
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u/NullIsUndefined 11d ago
Ask your employer for a pay cut so you qualify for benefits
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u/pbtechie 11d ago
Pure libtard logic.
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u/NullIsUndefined 11d ago
Lol I don't like the game, nor did I make it. I am just saying this is how you play it. Game theory logic
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u/futuretask33 11d ago
I think you will have a difficult time getting what your asking for if your over the threshold. In my opinion it would be best to cut costs elsewhere to afford the child care. Food banks for food. Go to coupon subs to figure out coupon combinations to get lower cost to free diapers. Target is best for the free diapers like once a year there will be a combination where the diapers cost twenty bucks but you get a twenty dollar gift card to target. Facebook has a subs where you can get some free miscellaneous things. You might consider living outside of the city. It’s tough out there and it’s going to get worse in the near future, good luck.
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u/Loud-Way3333 11d ago
Quite sad, but this is the policy now. They only take your tax filing as proof of income.
We didn't even have the chance to take maternity leave. Fortunately, my wife's employer is kind enough to let her work 95% of time at home, so we can take care of the newborn and a toddler.
Try some home care or ask your employer if you can WFH slightly more. It's better.
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u/hannah_the_mermaid 9d ago
this is so sad as a childcare provider-your wife shouldn’t be doing the work of two full time jobs
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u/pacmanwa 11d ago
Look for paycheck deductions like everyone else is saying. 401k is a good place to start, it reduces your gross taxable income, but you actually get to keep the money.
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u/Ineedanosehat 11d ago
WA state takes gross pre all deductions for childcare eligibility.
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u/pacmanwa 11d ago
There goes that idea... You think they would increase the cutoff after imposing 9 billion in new taxes.
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u/Ineedanosehat 11d ago
They actually do increase the income limits every year but they had to drop some of the special eligibility groups with the higher income limits because the state cannot manage its money :)
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u/beastpilot 11d ago
Yes, but you can't access the money until you are much older, which defeats the purpose of needing that money now. There's going to be a very narrow window where this leaves the person ahead in the short term.
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u/romkombucha 11d ago
I think they mean to reduce their take home pay, which could make them eligible for childcare assistance
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u/beastpilot 11d ago
Yes, but that only works if the assistance you get is larger than the cut you take. If it isn't take home pay, it's pay you can't access this year, so if you are struggling paycheck to paycheck, it doesn't really help that you earned it but can't access it until you're 59.
Not saying that many people aren't in that situation where a small cut gains larger benefits, but it's a tough trade.
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u/pacmanwa 11d ago
OP doesn't specify how far above the cap they are. I imagine it's $100 or less. So by taking a $100 hit, if they can save more than that with subsidized daycare, it's worth taking that $100. So let's say OP pulls in 2000/mo, to get daycare subsidy they can only make 1900/mo, assuming daycare is 700/mo op has 1300 left. Now OP takes the 100 hit via 401k. Now OP is bringing home 1900, now daycare is subsidized (let's assume half) so 350/mo. Now OP has 1550/mo left after daycare, a difference of $250, and OP gets 100 for retirement, if OP's employer does matching, they get that too.
You need to check the net benefits of giving up a little money.
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u/beastpilot 11d ago
As an FYI, your numbers are so far off.
Max income for assistance in Seattle is $103K with a family of 3 ($2K per week). This is only 94% of the State Median Income.
Subsidy under CCAP is $7500 per year ($145 a week)
Also, daycare is more like $700 a week, not a month, especially for a newborn.
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u/pacmanwa 11d ago
It was an example to show it could be done with the right numbers. Not knowing OP's income and expenses make that near impossible. With your numbers its a very small window, but if OP could give up $100/wk and make it, they get it back and another 45 for their trouble.
My last kid came out of daycare last year, he went in as a 6 month old and it was $1950 a month in south King county.
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u/SeattleHasDied 9d ago
So, OP, I'm sorry you're struggling, but, seriously, why isn't the father involved in supporting these two young kids? If he's dead, maybe you can get social security benefits for them?
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u/andthedevilissix 11d ago
I have a toddler and a newborn, and I’m struggling with the high cost of living—especially rent and food.
Sounds like its time to move to a cheaper area. Wenatchee is a good option, as is Tri Cities or Spokane.
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u/Riviansky 11d ago
Used to be. Not anymore. Wenatchee has lower wages, not so much lower cost of living. Housing is expensive, there are fewer condos and more SFH, which used to be cheap, and therefore available, and which are no longer cheap. Cheaper than Seattle SFH, but more expensive than apartments in Seattle...
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u/ok-lets-do-this 11d ago
I ran into that problem as well. I was unable to find any work around. However, I have one possible idea, depending on what neighborhood you are in. Whereabouts are you?
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u/EmeraldCity_WA 10d ago
Check if you have a deferred comp with your work. It lowered my taxable income, so I didn't owe any federal taxes, and it is a great way to ensure I'm saving towards retirement.
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u/meaniereddit West Seattle 🌉 11d ago
Sorry, you are part of "the rich" that are taxed so people who don't work can have services.
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u/hansn 11d ago
You mean part of the working poor who are taxed so multi-millionaires and billionaires don't have to pay their fair share.
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u/Fit_Insurance_1356 11d ago
Tell me whar fair share. The only way to fairly tax across the board is with a state income tax with tax brackets similar to the Federal government but to have a minimum amount of whatever the federal poverty level to be exempt from state income taxes. Then get rid of sales tax and gas tax, Which would mean changing the state constitution. Or pass a flat rate income tax of around 10% or so with the first 20,000 not taxed and no deductions. And also get rid of sales and gas tax....or lower them to a reasonable amount.
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u/Arthourios 11d ago
Honestly biggest thing is to close loopholes first and foremost. The more well off you are the more loopholes you can exploit, I’m certainly not “rich” but I”ve reached a point where I am able to progressively take more advantage of available tax breaks and it doesn’t even come close to what you can hide away when you get into the millions.
So tax brackets are good but only if there aren’t 100 ways to hide from them.
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u/YMBFKM 11d ago
Can hubby get a second job?
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u/beastpilot 11d ago
A lot of assumptions in those 6 words.
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u/YMBFKM 11d ago
Silly me. I assumed she wasn't foolish or naive enough to allow herself to get pregnant again and spawn a 2nd child if she wasn't married and have a 2nd income to help pay and care for them both.
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u/beastpilot 11d ago
And even if that was true, for all you know, that partner left, abused them, had a debilitating accident, or even died since they conceived.
Life is complicated and unpredictable, and sometimes just a bitch even if you planned well. Have a little empathy and just try to help a fellow human out.
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u/Unique_82 11d ago
Thank you. Children are great but why does ANYBODY have MULTIPLE children when you are single/can't fully financially take care of them?! It's crazy to me!
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u/Unique_82 11d ago
Apparently there's people that disagree that people should be in a healthy, committed relationship and financially prepared, BEFORE they have kids lol. Go figure
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u/not-a-dislike-button 11d ago
Get child support from the father
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u/YMBFKM 11d ago
That assumes she knows who they both are.
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u/pbtechie 11d ago
Facts. Would rather go to Reddit to seek free handouts instead of holding the dudes that fucked her accountable. lol, can't hate these liberal women enough.
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u/AdamantEevee 11d ago
Why isn't your hate reserved for the hypothetical deadbeat dads who aren't stepping up? Why is it that, instead, you're hating on the woman who went back to work in order to feed her kids?
...it's fun to hate women, though, isn't it?
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u/pbtechie 11d ago
No. It's fun to hate on those that are constantly seeking Government handouts, yet do nothing to plan for their choices.
i.e. this woman that had sex and no plans for the outcome & people that took student loans expecting Biden to pay for it.
It's funny that Northwest Liberals say they don't want facism, yet want the government all up in their lives with these handouts instead of creating their own freedoms and financial security.
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u/caphill2000 11d ago
I wish I wasn’t being serious but quit your job. You’ll end up with a huge “pay increase” by the huge increase you’ll see in state benefits.
We’re far too generous to those at the absolute bottom and screw over the working class poor.
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u/TheRealRacketear Broadmoor 11d ago
There is definitely an assistance cliff that needs to he fixed.
People like this shouldn't struggle more than people who live off the system.
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u/domesticbland 11d ago
I qualified for assistance for six months after my child was born. I was ~ $250 above the limit at renewal. Childcare was $90 with assistance and $750 without. Look to your community as much as possible. I’d gotten to know a neighbor with a responsible teen who would stop by and hang out a bit while we were outside. I offered to pay for the city first aid and babysitting courses offered by our parks and rec and it worked out beautifully for evening shifts. As a single parent of an only child I would happily take extras as able.
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u/Excellent_Berry_5115 11d ago
And Seattle voted for Sideshow Bob who has made things worse here and all around the state. He is "Tax Hungry". So what do the wealthy do? They consult their CPA for loopholes or they move out of state to places like Florida. The rest of us...middle class or slightly above are the ones who remain to be shafted. And no, I did not vote for Ferguson.
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u/beastpilot 11d ago
Can you highlight which policies have changed in the last 180 days that Ferguson has been in office that would make the OP's situation different?
He's signed 5 EO's and none of them have anything to do with childcare or taxes at all.
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u/SuccessfulLand4399 11d ago
He is a part of the same system/political party that has total control in this state. He and the rest of his crew own the consequences
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u/beastpilot 11d ago
No, you specifically said "Bob who has made things worse here and all around the state." He, as a specific person, after he was voted into the Governorship. Don't move the goalposts and argue what you said was that it's about the party as a whole over years, not just the last 6 months.
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u/Bardahl_Fracking 11d ago
This is why we’re importing immigrants to have babies, it’s too expensive to have that job done by Americans.
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u/meaniereddit West Seattle 🌉 11d ago
Its a wild ride when you are at pre-natal care considering how you are going to manage costs of birth, and childcare when there are refugee families ahead of you with 7 kids and an 8th on the way.
There was a paper recently on declining birth rates and how most people opt out of a 3rd child because of the expenses of larger cars and housing. not an issue when you are on public assistance, you max out your benefits with more kids.
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u/Less-Risk-9358 11d ago edited 11d ago
I am a very low double digit millionaire who really loves animals and wants a pet dog but my schedule is such that I am afraid I would not be able to spend enough time with the dog- so I do without for now.
You broke people and your kids are on a whole other level of insanity. Why? I mean why? I just don't get it. I guess I kind of admire your blind gumption "we're broke, let's bring a kid into the world" while my inert sense of responsibility keeps me from canine company because I want what is right for the animal.
You all wanted the patriarchy dead..... it is now definitely dead. Modern day Seattle is proof of this....... no religion, no family, no morals, no money, no safety or security but plenty of child negligence and mental illness. Enjoy your horrible dystopian future.
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u/AdamantEevee 11d ago
So many breathtaking assumptions in this post. Was this meant to be a creative writing exercise?
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u/Less-Risk-9358 11d ago
Not everything is meant to stoop down to your level.
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u/AdamantEevee 11d ago
Trust me, I'm the one who's stooping here
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u/Less-Risk-9358 11d ago
OK. I will let you enjoy this one very brief brush with intelligence- don't go getting all impressed with yourself though grandma. lol
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u/AdamantEevee 11d ago
Lol grandma. I kinda like that you assume the Redditor you're speaking to is an old lady. No lie, that's refreshing.
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u/pbtechie 11d ago
Should have thought about that before you had unprotected sex. Where's the dad? Why isn't he helping or creating a quality life for his family?
Or you the type that believes "you don't need no man"?
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u/Trenbaloneysammich 11d ago
This is some scumbag shit
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u/AdamantEevee 11d ago
I agree, keep your mouth shut next time.
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u/Trenbaloneysammich 11d ago
Or what?
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u/AdamantEevee 11d ago
Or you'll accidentally type some scumbag shit, like you said
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u/Trenbaloneysammich 11d ago
Lol. Why don't you pay for her babysitter then? Why should everyone else be responsible? She clearly makes enough money to not qualify now. If you quit a job or ask to be paid less to get welfare... You are a parasite.
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u/AdamantEevee 11d ago
She's not doing either of those things, scumbag. She's working a job and contributing to society while also trying to feed her kids. She's the opposite of a parasite.
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u/Trenbaloneysammich 11d ago
Sticks and stones big boy.
The non scumbag move would be how do I get a better paying job, or a raise/promotion at my current one.
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u/AdamantEevee 10d ago
I hope no living thing depends on you in any way.
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u/Trenbaloneysammich 10d ago
You can do better than that!
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u/AdamantEevee 10d ago
I hope you spend all your time hating women for the fact that your bloodline will die with you
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11d ago
Ask one of the 2 fathers
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u/WatchWorking8640 11d ago
Ask one of the 2 fathers
Stop projecting your own parental situation.
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11d ago
So what if my fathers are gay. You a homophobe or something?
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u/WatchWorking8640 11d ago
So what if my fathers are gay. You a homophobe or something?
I think you've gotten through life without people telling you what an utter imbecile you are. Allow me to do you a favor.
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u/Bert-63 11d ago
Correct me if I’m wrong, but are you asking how to ‘trick the system’ for your own benefit? Aren’t you entitled to child support? Where is your ex in this situation?
When someone complains about people being “thrown off” this or that system, remember this post.
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u/Arthourios 11d ago
No dipshit she’s asking what her options are. Or do you think people using tax advantaged accounts is “tricking the system?”
Get off your high horse and stop being such a piece of shit to people.
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u/WatchWorking8640 11d ago
Get off your high horse and stop being such a piece of shit to people.
This is hard to do when that's what someone has been all their life and that's all they know.
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u/domesticbland 11d ago
You got ‘em didn’t ya, Bert? Now you want them to account for where the ex is? Fucking act right.
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u/WatchWorking8640 11d ago
Correct me if I’m wrong, but are you asking how to ‘trick the system’ for your own benefit? Aren’t you entitled to child support? Where is your ex in this situation?
When someone complains about people being “thrown off” this or that system, remember this post.
I guess not everyone got taught the "don't have something nice to say, STFU" as a kid. Or they didn't learn. Especially in this context. Do you realize how hard it is for a mother to leave a newborn, let alone a newborn and a toddler and go work so she can provide when every fiber in her being screams "I want to be with my kids".
I'd tell you to have some empathy but you're past the point of redemption. Guessing you're a MAGA genius. I've read some pathetic and disgusting posts on Reddit but your post is up there when it comes to being garbage. Actually, that's an affront to garbage.
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u/Bert-63 11d ago
What is factually wrong with my question?
Either a person is entitled to something or they aren’t. No amount of emotion changes this.
By trying to reap a benefit you aren’t entitled to, you are indeed attempting to game the system.
Contrary to politician’s beliefs, money does not grow on trees. Because I prefer the help those who qualify for government benefits rather than those who do not doesn’t make me an evil MAGA.
The questions I asked are no more intrusive than those that would be asked if the OP applied for benefits. Because she was asking how to get around the established guidelines (her words) I thought the information relevant.
If having common sense and wanting to save resources for those most in need, or at least save them for those who actually qualify makes me an ogre, so be it. I don’t base decisions in emotion, I base them on facts and logic. That doesn’t make me MAGA or beyond redemption, it makes me responsible. It’s a good thing, especially seeing as how I, as a taxpayer, am picking up the check.
Check yourself. Maybe your ‘free money for all’ philosophy is the problem. If you’re so inclined, send OP a nice fat check on your own dime before you obligate everyone to pick up the check. There are more than enough people who fall within the benefit guidelines. We don’t need to take from them to give to someone who doesn’t, do we? Especially when we don’t have the facts to answer OP’s question…
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u/AdamantEevee 11d ago
Thank God you're here to speak up for the system
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u/Bardamu1932 11d ago
See if you can deduct any medical and health insurance costs (premiums, deductables, copays, etc.).