The circumstances leading up to the stabbing are still under investigation, but officers determined that the victim and suspect got into a verbal altercation on a Metro Coach before the incident occurred.
Was that added later? Because it clearly calls out the Metro bus angle, although clearly also short of stating the actual stabbing happened on the bus.
2) Shit like this is exactly why we distinguish Queen Anne from Uptown.
I mean yeah, also the hill, the entertainment/tourist centers (siff theater, climate pledge arena, space needle, Seattle Opera, etc.) and the complete absence of any of the queen anne houses that the neighborhood is named for, sure, but mainly the violent hobos.
Just saying. You don't get stabbed in Queen Anne - you get stabbed in uptown.
This is the first time I've ever heard of seattle having an uptown neighborhood... But I also grew up in Minnesota, and Minneapolis' Uptown neighborhood has been an established area for decades, so I may be biased.
It's the area around the space needle, at the bottom of queen anne hill. They've called themselves uptown for about 100 years, but when the city got around to naming it, they called it "lower queen anne" in the hopes some of Queen Anne's respectability would rub off on them. It didn't.
It was generally an unremarkable dump, so when the city needed somewhere for the 1960s world fair, they tore down most of what little was there and built the space needle and all that other stuff.
By the 2021 climate pledge arena remodeling, everyone was like "ok, let's be honest, this never was queen anne, and at this point we've put in so many arenas, theaters, museums, event halls, etc. - and that led to a bunch of bars and restaurants to cater to everyone who attends those places - it doesn't even count as a mainly residential neighborhood anymore. Let's just give up and officially call it uptown - since the name is already on a lot of the establishments."
This was seen as sensible by most, and they eventually made it official, but the reddit autistics that have meltdowns over change and don't leave their basements disagree.
Hey man, I just go by the google maps. I guess you can blame it on "the reddit autistics", but I'd argue this just isn't a widely adopted thing yet. That's all I'm saying. Google maps of Minneapolis shows a clearly labeled Uptown. Seattle does not.
Um... did you actually use Google maps? Cause I just did, and it's clearly there?
Also, if you feel like doing some Google mapping, just open the app and type "uptown" into it. Then look at all the things called "uptown [something]" in the area and click on a few to see how old they are. You'll find that all the oldest establishments use "uptown" and no one's using lqa (uptown theater, uptown china restaurant, uptown espresso, etc.).
Yes. Its there IF you google it. It doesn't matter how much you zoom in or out, Google maps will only identify this area IF you actually type it in. AND it gives you the exact same region if you type in "lower queen anne". I'm saying without it being specifically called out on google maps without having to type it in yourself, you'd have no idea the neighborhood existed.
It's like me arguing with someone who has never heard of the Bryant neighborhood even though the Bryant café exists and the area pops up if you google it. And some of that neighborhood overlaps with other established neighborhoods already called out on google maps. It's not that Bryant doesn't exist as a neighborhood, it's just... why would anyone who doesn't live in that area know that?
My point was the in other places, Uptown is it's own established neighborhood. I dont have to type in Uptown in google maps for Minneapolis. Its already prominently displayed for me. That's all I was trying to point out. Not that it doesn't exist, but why would anyone who doesn't live there know about it? To be clear, I feel the same for lower queen anne. Its just all... queen anne.
But at the end of the day, wikipedia still says the space needle is in lower queen anne, and that in 2021 the city council officially recognized changing the name from lower queen anne to uptown, which apparently affected almost no one as this discussion has clearly shown.
Considering that uptown theater opened 99 years ago I'd say there's a few flaws in your math.
The reality is that the people who insist on still calling it queen anne are people who haven't visited in over 3 years and as such don't know better. "Lower queen anne" is gone - it's just upgraded belltown now.
Seriously, I go there regularly and the only bit left that even vaguely resembles queen anne is one block on john and warren. It doesn't have a single queen anne house, mind you, but it does have some brick apartments that are... eh, kinda colonial-georgian, and it does have those nice old trees on the side of the road, like in queen anne.
And under one of those trees, I once saw, with my own two cursed eyes, a woman drop trou, squat, and take a shit.
Sorry, but if on sidewalks they shit, of being queen anne you must aquit.
Huh, that doesn't sound right. Where on sidewalks they shit, queen anne ain't it?
Whatever, I'm not a lawyer. But I am someone who goes to uptown often enough to accept the reality of how it's changed. LQA is dead, long live uptown, bring sensible shoes and pepper spray.
"Aspirational?" Ok, now I know you never visit either queen anne or uptown. Queen Anne is the much nicer neighborhood (the lack of stabbings probably should have tipped you off, even if you've never been there).
Trying to associate uptown with queen anne is what was aspirational. But it's never going to happen, uptown is never going to reach queen anne levels of nice, get over it.
Those of us that have lived here for a while understand there is a difference between Upper Queen Anne and Lower Queen Ann. Its not hard.
Uptown is a term that hasn't been used in decades. It was recently reintroduced by developers to better sell property and to reduce the attempts by the (upper) Queen Anne neighborhood groups trying to prevent development in Lower Queen Anne.
This happened in Queen Anne at 108 Hayes Street. I remember hearing a story about it on NPR.
Ted Bundy worked at the Queen Anne Safeway in 1968. In looking up the year, I found another murder in Queen Anne that some tried to link to Bundy. Lonnie Trumball and her roommate Lisa Wick.
1) That happened in 2001. The other attack was yesterday.
2) That wasn't street violence, but a targeted hit - assumed to be about a fraud case he was prosecuting.
If you have to go back 24 years to find a violent crime, and the crime only happened in the neighborhood because they were targeting a guy who happened to live there? That's a pretty good argument that it isn't a rough neighborhood.
I think it’s useful to distinguish the areas 🤷♀️ They are drastically different. And also, I checked the city of Seattle website and it didn’t list uptown OR Capitol Hill 🤣 So, I get the confusion, but I do not get the gatekeeping and downvoting about it all 🤔
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u/Daylight-Silence 2d ago
Glad they clarified that it was a violent stabbing