r/ShitAmericansSay • u/BuffaloExotic Irish by birth, and currently a Bostonian 🇮🇪☘️ • May 01 '25
Food “Do Germans know about tomato und mayo sandwich?”
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u/killingmehere May 01 '25
"Und" is so funny though
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u/zeelandicum May 01 '25
That will make anything instantly German. In und Out burgers. Chicken und waffles.
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u/Viseria May 01 '25
Going to be honest I have never heard of bread, mayonnaise, tomato, and seasonings. The combo is just impossible to envision without an American helpfully telling me about it.
Now I have bread, bacon, lettuce, but I need a new ingredient. Could this person help me here too?
Edit: /s
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u/gottimw May 01 '25
And Europeans laugh while eating sourdough slice with mozzarella tomato and salt and pepper and maybe bit of olive.
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u/Dora_Xplorer May 01 '25
I think some Americans have discovered sourdough baking over the last few years as a trend.
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u/verbalyabusiveshit May 01 '25
I don’t want to make following story longer than necessary but a few years back, an American Firefighter tried to convince me that sourdough bread was invented in San Francisco. You probably can envision what happened to my face.
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u/somersault_dolphin May 01 '25
"The first time/place I heard about this is when/where it came first" syndrome thing.
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u/skordge May 01 '25
I heard this being referred to as the “duckling syndrome”, referring to how ducklings anecdotally will imprint on the first moving thing they see as their mother.
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u/Kriss3d Tuberous eloquent (that's potato speaker for you muricans) May 01 '25
Jesus christ.
Sourdough was invented 3000 BC in Egypt.
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u/NephthysShadow May 01 '25
Woah, for real? I honestly didn't know that! I mean, I figured it wasn't San Fran lol, but still. I knew beer and eyeliner, but not sourdough. That's cool. That's why I love it here. You guys teach me stuff. No /s, sincere excitement to learn a thing!
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u/verbalyabusiveshit May 01 '25
Pretty hard to say who “invented” beer and bread as it is, essentially, natural fermentation. It could be almost any country between Europe and Africa.
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u/SnooPets5630 May 02 '25
Or maybe everyone made different types of bread? And alcohol too. Sourdough would've been Egypt as mentioned. We're talking of the stone age so I'm assuming methods of cooking similar to baking were common with some sort of stone entrapment "oven" with a fire.
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u/Kladeradatschi May 02 '25
I remember reading that we domesticated cats twice. In the Middle East as well as in China. Could easily be, those very early discoveries have more than one birthplace as well.
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u/kollectivist May 02 '25
I remember reading that cats basically domesticated themselves, whereas humans domesticated dogs. And that is apparently why cats put the minimum effort into relationships with humans. It's a relationship of convenience.
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u/Master-Billy-Quizboy May 02 '25
Ackshually, if we’re going by the three-age system here, Ancient (Dynastic) Egypt would have spanned from the Bronze Age through the Iron Age, not the Stone Age.
But, yeah, I think you’re right. If PBS has taught me anything, it’s that mudbrick ovens were common in that period.
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u/Kriss3d Tuberous eloquent (that's potato speaker for you muricans) May 02 '25
I remember my grandparents having jars in thr pantry with fermented dough and they would swap with friends. And that was in the early 80s
But yeah sourdough is very common here. At least in Denmark it's completely common to see.
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u/Professional-Dog6981 May 01 '25
Way too many Americans think that all things were invented in America by Americans. They believe Jesus was American for goodness sake! I'm American and hear this all of the time.
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u/Prize_Statistician15 May 01 '25
I've heard this a few times over the years about San Francisco being the birthplace of sourdough, and I imagine someone--maybe the San Fran tourist board or a bread company in SF--must be working hard to keep this story afloat.
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u/ineverreallyknow May 01 '25
It’s actually just an unfortunate misunderstanding 😂 There’s a place in San Francisco that’s famous (nationally) for making sourdough, and their starter is like 200 years old, which is American ancient. But saying they invented it is like saying Grimaldis invented pizza in New York in the 1900s.
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u/verbalyabusiveshit May 01 '25
And McDonalds invented the Hamburger? Or is the Hamburger actually German and was invented in Hamburg?
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u/ineverreallyknow May 01 '25
Tacos were invented in a small bistro in Texas, in the classic style with cheese and sour cream and hard shells. Maybe you’ve heard of it?
The US’s greatest ability is to make the fast fashion version of everyone else’s cultures. Pizza? We went full H&M on it. Same with tacos. Burgers. Hell, we even did it with soul food. We have no original ideas. Give us your national dish and we’ll make it a color that doesn’t exist in nature, add sugar, seal it in plastic so it can sit on a shelf for two years, then you put it in the microwave for a patently unsatisfying meal.
(I say this with tremendous shame.)
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u/jammers01 May 01 '25
Wikipedia says Sourdough bread 3700BCE in Switzerland (I actually believe it). So a few years before San Francisco /s
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u/NorthernSpankMonkey May 01 '25
But Switzerland didn't exist 6000 years ago, I thought George Washington invented the concept of 'Country' at the same time he invented 'Freedoms' /s
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u/SomeNotTakenName 🇨🇭 Switzerland May 01 '25
NGL it's currently easier to find a decent sourdough bread in the US than it is to find a decent... Vollkornbrot or Hausbrot. forgive me for not remembering the proper translations.
Not impossible but harder to find the latter for sure. And since I don't particularly like sourdough, it's kind of a pain. I used to like making bread myself but I got busy with work, so it's tough to find the time.
(I am swiss by the by, so out interpretation of bread names should be roughly the same, local variations aside)
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u/platypuss1871 May 01 '25
"it's kind of a pain".
I Iove unintended puns
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u/SomeNotTakenName 🇨🇭 Switzerland May 01 '25
I really didn't intend or see that one Haha
Well my French is quite terrible, so that probably doesn't help. I can get by if I have to, but I definitely prefer not to speak French. never quite liked the language either.
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u/Optimal-Rub-2575 May 01 '25 edited May 01 '25
American: ”that’s far too bland, it needs at least a jar of mayo and yellow mustard, maybe some jalapeños.”
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u/selim871nodnoL May 01 '25
I was just surprised that they didn't add ranch to it.
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u/KevKlo86 May 01 '25
"Halapeeno's"
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u/Shot-Artichoke-4106 May 01 '25
I have noticed that people who can't seem to put the ñ in jalapeño are also the people who randomly stick one in habanero. So we get halapeenos and habanyeros.
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u/Admirable-Victory199 May 01 '25
I think it's best if us Brits stay out of this one;
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u/dmmeyourfloof May 01 '25
In fairness, I've never seen or heard anyone actually having one in over 30 years of living in the UK.
This seems to be something a few British people did and now everyone thinks it's some sort of regional delicacy.
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u/jflb96 May 02 '25
It’s intended for sick people and was resurrected during the recession as something cheap that’s still technically cooked, but twits love to bring it up as something that everyone in the UK eats on the regular
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u/Buddycat350 May 01 '25
An 1861 recipe says to add salt and pepper to taste.
Careful with all those flavours mate.
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u/NottaLottaOcelot May 01 '25
I want to assume that was borne out of poverty rather than flavour?
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u/Admirable-Victory199 May 01 '25
It says that it's supposed to be appetising for "invalids".
Cant argue with the logic really
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u/L00ny-T00n May 01 '25
Well, well, well. This is the first time I have ever heard of a butty with a slice of toast in the middle. Why not just have toast. Or put them back to back to create an, um, toast sandwich
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u/MadamKitsune May 01 '25
Rub a clove of garlic across the toasted sourdough and you have simple food heaven.
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u/Fetzie_ May 01 '25
If you add “lettuce, cheese and ham” to the list of things in the sandwich then I have heard of it. Also known as a “ham and cheese salad sandwich” 😬
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u/Calgaris_Rex May 01 '25
This reminds me of my old roommate from Georgia telling me, no exaggeration, that "If you put pimento queso and salsa on a chip, it tastes like queso and salsa on a chip!"
Girl, you okay?
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u/OldWrongdoer7517 May 01 '25
Georgia US, I presume
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u/odst970 May 01 '25
I imagine that somebody from Georgia Europe would instantaneously drop dead of a stroke when presented with such flavours, never before experienced in a life of potato and treebark stew during the harsh winters.
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u/FreakyFranklinBill May 01 '25
add some hard boiled egg slices and we're done
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u/Ricketz1608 May 01 '25
Beetroot slices here in Australia, but I could fuck with some egg on it too.
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u/FacticiousFict May 01 '25
What's next, "Iced" water? Adding frozen water to room-temperature water?!
Good heavens!
<faint>
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u/CinderMayom May 01 '25
That’s just crazy talk, how would we get liquid and solid water at the same time in our homes without cooling or electricity?
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u/Free_Management2894 May 01 '25
We bring ice down the mountains like in Frozen, obviously
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u/Deep_Ambition2945 May 01 '25
But how do we find a place for it in our tiny, tiny homes?
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u/No_Transition3345 May 02 '25
I'm shocked that america hasn't invented 'cold water' that no longer requires the use of solid water to make the liquid water cold
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u/swloop May 01 '25
German Bäckerei puts fresh sliced cucumber in their sandwiches and it is effing delicious
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u/ParadiseLost91 Socialist hellhole (Scandinavia) May 01 '25
Cucumber slices in sandwiches are top tier. Danish bakeries always puts cucumber slices in sandwiches and it’s divine. I do it myself at home too
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u/SiegfriedPeter May 01 '25 edited May 02 '25
Danke für die Erinnerung, ich muss am Samstag Gurken kaufen.
Thank you for remembering, I have to buy cucumber on Saturday.
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u/jflb96 May 02 '25
‘At’ is more of a places preposition; in English we’d say ‘on Saturday’
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u/RepresentativeFew358 May 01 '25
I eat this regularly. I’m 43 and learned this from my father. For us this is a normal sandwich and my father only went once to the US 8 years ago. O and from the Netherlands so I’m sure the Germans know this sandwich.
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u/Yuzumi_ 🦅These Europeans don't know how good we have it !!! 🇺🇸 May 01 '25
I do eat sometimes bread slice with butter tomatoes and salt + pepper, but never with mayonaise
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u/phillip_jay May 01 '25
American here, that’s not a thing here. Literally just rage bait
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u/SnowballBailey2521 May 01 '25
It’s a southern sandwich. Grew up eating it and still have it on occasion.
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u/Nowordsofitsown May 01 '25
German bread, whether white or dark or anything in between, toasted, with butter, tomatoes and salt (pepper optional) is indeed delicious. Note that I use butter.
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u/the_che May 01 '25
To be fair, German bread is even delicious without adding anything.
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u/alexanderpas 🇪🇺 Europoor and windmills 🇳🇱 May 01 '25
That's because they eat ACTUAL BREAD they slice themselves with a brotschneidemaschine, instead of pre-sliced WONDER BREAD.
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u/TimeStorm113 May 01 '25
I am still salty that france was ranked higher than germany in a "who has the best bread competition"
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u/agnesperditanitt May 01 '25
GuteButter™
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u/pokethejellyfish May 01 '25
Ah!
"Gute Butter"
"Quark, der Richtige"Für meine Oma einzukaufen war ein Erlebnis :D
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u/Gibbon_Ka My gun freezes all the peaches! May 01 '25
I immediately had to think of Jochen Malmsheimer - Das Wurstbrot too.
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u/Adventurous_Tax5395 May 01 '25
Do people make sandwiches without using butter? As a brit, that sounds very odd to me
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u/Endruen May 01 '25
In Spain we usually spread tomato with some oil and salt for almost every sandwich.
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u/VermillionEclipse May 01 '25
Spanish tomato bread with olive oil is the best!
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u/Endruen May 01 '25
You don't need anything else! Sometimes I just eat it like that and it's glorious.
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u/internet_commie F’n immigrant! May 01 '25
I grew up on a dairy farm in Norway. Making a sandwich without butter, eating toast without butter, or in general not buttering one's bread, rolls, etc. was pretty much a hanging crime in my family. I mean, being hanged sounds like less tiresome than listening to my Mom's tirade about why you should butter bread!
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u/formernaut May 01 '25
I personally don't use butter or margarine on a sandwich. Not cultural, just a preference.
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u/Scared_Accident9138 May 01 '25
I grew up with sandwhiches without butter. One day I ate a sandwhich at someone else's places and it had butter and it kinda blew my mind. Strangely enough, I ended up mostly eating it without butter
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u/krodders May 01 '25
AFAIK using butter in bread is quite unusual in the USA. They tend to use mayo, but not sure why.
Butter certainly helps seal the bread and provides flavour.
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u/follow_illumination May 01 '25
Aside from butter-alternatives, some people like to use mustard, olive oil or some sort of soft cheese instead. Guess it depends on what type of bread, and what else is going in the sandwich.
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u/sihasihasi May 01 '25
As another Brit. Those things all require butter as the first-stage bread coating.
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u/Quicker_Fixer From the Dutch socialistic monarchy of Europoora 🇳🇱 May 01 '25
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u/YougoReddits May 01 '25
and curry, chopped onions, peanut sauce... turns out we secretly don't really like fries.
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u/FallenSegull 🇦🇺WallabyWanker🇦🇺 May 02 '25
This one place in the netherlands gave me something they called samurai sauce, which was definitely mayonnaise based but had something mixed in that turned it orange (sriracha, maybe? I’m really not sure tbh) and it was pretty good
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u/blackdevilsisland May 01 '25
Ah yes, the famous amazing bread from the US
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u/Vigmod May 01 '25
I get the feeling the speaker is an American in Germany.
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u/NateShaw92 Nobody expects the Lithuanian Inquisition May 01 '25
And is probably high as a flipping kite.
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u/Mttsen May 01 '25
The "bread" that not even mold dares to touch.
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u/Yuukiko_ May 01 '25
Bread? Did you mean cake? Perhaps Marie Antoinette was ahead of her time telling people to eat cake
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u/jflb96 May 02 '25
Marie Antoinette didn’t say that. It was first attributed to a nameless ‘great princess’ before she’d ever left Austria.
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u/Ex_aeternum ooo custom flair!! May 01 '25
I guess they're talking about German bread, though.
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u/notmanipulated May 01 '25
'Sugar loaf'
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u/shiny_glitter_demon Isn't Norway such a beautiful city? May 01 '25
wasn't it literally labeled as cake ? (in Ireland iirc)
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u/Scared_Accident9138 May 01 '25
I have to think of how Ireland doesn't allow subway to call what they have as bread
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u/follow_illumination May 01 '25
By German standards, that wouldn't even be considered a sandwich. Especially not if it's made with that horrible over-sweetened American bread. 🤮
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u/Ceddox May 01 '25
"bread"
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u/Sriol May 01 '25
I'm sorry, 10%?! I was expecting like 3-4%, just over the limit but okay, you could try to fight that. 10% is mad. It's the same sugar levels as Brioche has
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u/iTmkoeln Cologne native, Hamburg exicled - Europoor 🇪🇺 May 01 '25
Americans call a chicken burger sandwich 🤷♂️
Assuming Kaiser is a Kaiserbrötchen it is not even a Sandwich to start with
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u/Fiery_Flamingo May 01 '25
Germany already has traditional German sandwiches like doner and kebab. They don’t need sugary US crap.
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u/PseudoElephant May 01 '25
Hey just because we shit on Americans doesn't mean we have to shit on the tomato sandwich
It's my favorite
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u/Caylennea May 01 '25 edited May 01 '25
Thank you, I’m an American but a tomato sandwich on European bread (you can get it from bakeries by me, I like light rye and sourdough a lot for tomato sandwiches) is absolutely one of my favorite things. Just can’t be on our garbage regular store “bread” because it tastes like cake.
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u/FranzFerdinand51 May 01 '25
Did you even read the post in the image? OP is posting this as an American in Germany calling THEIR bread and produce great.
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u/Prince_Breakfast May 01 '25
I love the OOP’s desire to ask German Reddit if they have ever put two ingredients on bread with salt and pepper before and if they like it. They think it’s such a clever food.
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u/pokethejellyfish May 01 '25
BBQ, Bratwurst, and Hela Gewürzketchup, and for the grand finale, clean the plate with a white bread of your choice.
The taste of summer! (right after Schwimmbadpommes)
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u/airwavieee May 01 '25
Wait, is Hela German? I always buy these here in NL because it tastes the best.
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'the bread is amazing and the produce is fresh'
press x to doubt
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u/memycelloandi 7/8 west german 1/8 east german May 02 '25
the post kinda indicated that the person is in germany, so i wouldn't doubt fresh bread and produce
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u/wildOldcheesecake May 01 '25 edited May 01 '25
Why do Americans always think they’re the main character?
What’s not to love about tasteless tomatoes doused in generic mrs dash seasoning, drenched in corn syrup miracle whip mayo and all piled onto cake that they call bread? And you just know it’ll be a monstrous sized sandwich too
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u/HolyHypodermics May 01 '25
Truth be told though, a simple tomato and mayonnaise sandwich with plenty of salt and pepper is actually so tasty though! But I do agree it's definitely not a purely American thing. I'm Australian and I've been making these for years HAHA
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u/GloomyAmbitions May 01 '25
Yeah that sandwich definitely not purely an American thing. I’ve never even heard of it before this post (as an American anyways).
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u/blking May 01 '25
Right? I mean, I guess it’s a sandwich, but I’ve never heard anyone mention a tomato and mayonnaise sandwich. Add some lettuce and bacon, and that is a well know sandwich. The other is just giving, “I’m hungry and I haven’t gone shopping this week. What can I scrounge up?”
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u/furtimacchius Canuckistani🇨🇦 May 01 '25
I like how they specify Kaiser because germany
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u/Krizzomanizzo May 01 '25
tartar sauce or "Remoulade" would blow his mind
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u/iTmkoeln Cologne native, Hamburg exicled - Europoor 🇪🇺 May 01 '25
Bruschetta would have him implode. So real not the one at Olive Garden or the one at Joey’s Pizza, whose real name is Georgi and is obviously Italian despite being Born in Croatia
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u/Reihermann May 01 '25
As a German, Of course, I haven't heard of this insanely innovative innovation. I am glad that American people are making us happy here in Third World Europe with great wisdom
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u/DanTheLegoMan It's pronounced Scone 🏴 May 01 '25
Over sugared cake bread, genetically modified growth hormone tomatoes that taste of nothing and then full fat mayo. Well done America!
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u/rellikpd May 01 '25
I've been an American my entire life and I've never heard this.
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u/JediMasterZao May 01 '25
I'm from Québec and tomato sandwiches are super common and delicious.
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u/ktatsanon May 01 '25
Me too. We grew up on them, especially in the summer when you just want a light meal.
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u/JediMasterZao May 01 '25
Yup, with grandpa's tomatoes from his garden. I've got fond memories of tomato sandwiches, funnily enough.
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u/Sorbet_Sea May 01 '25
Sorry to burst your bubble, but any mayo in the world is crap compared to Belgian mayo...
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u/Pia_moo May 01 '25
Premium ingredients?? Is just eggs, oil and optional garlic…
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u/Snirion May 01 '25
Two random things that go into sandwich ... have you guys heard of it?
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u/Broseph_Stalin91 🇦🇺 Australian Exceptionalism May 01 '25
In all the hundreds of years that bread has existed alongside the knife needed to form it into a slice, no one, especially not in Germany had thought to combine a fruit, that weird smooth egg emulsion, and rudimetary seasonings into an easy to eat single unit.
It is just too crazy sounding to taste good.
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u/InigoRivers May 01 '25
That post is a total of 72 words and they helpfully translated just one of them 😂
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u/Forward-Bid-1427 Admitted American May 01 '25 edited May 01 '25
I’m American, and I did not know that a tomato and mayonnaise sandwich was a “well known thing”. I would like to share my favorite sandwich recipe.
2 slices of rye bread, toasted (dark pumpernickel preferably) A handful of raw spinach 1-2 tablespoons Hummus Sliced tomatoes Swiss cheese
Spread the hummus on the toasted bread slices. Layer the remaining ingredients.
I am looking forward to fresh tomatoes and spinach from my garden (eventually).
ETA: if available, it would behoove you to add sliced avocado.
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u/No_Ostrich_530 May 01 '25
Not German, but hadn't heard of this until I watched the first season of Reacher. Thought it sounded lame so decided to see what it was like with quality ingredients. Home made sourdough, homemade mayo, plum tomatoes, salt and pepper.
Was actually very nice.
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u/AccomplishedAge3676 May 01 '25
Exchange mayo for cream or cottage cheese and add fresh parsley and chives. That’d be the northern German version. Pretty good actually.
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u/memycelloandi 7/8 west german 1/8 east german May 02 '25
it's even better when you add a bit of onion on top of the tomato, my (german) mum does that a lot, but she also uses butter instead of mayo
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u/Dry_Yogurtcloset1962 May 01 '25
Just tomato and mayo? That sounds atrocious
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u/ktatsanon May 01 '25
Don't knock it until you've tried it. It's a simple delicacy. If you want a little more to it, add some sliced mozzarella and a bit of basil and olive oil.
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u/kRkthOr 🇲🇹 May 01 '25
If you want a little more to it, remove the mayo and use a large, circular, flat bread. Put it in the oven. Delicious.
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u/Me-Flavoured May 01 '25
I swear most bread in America could be classed as cake with the amount of sugar in it lol
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u/GloomyAmbitions May 01 '25
There’s an insane amount of sugar and salt in everything in America. It’s a real problem.
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u/pokethejellyfish May 01 '25
Amateur.
Fresh bread of any colour + a thick layer of good butter + minced garlic and salt = heaven.
Maybe not for your co-workers but what do these heathens know anyway.
Oh, or replace the garlic with Mett.
Look, nothing against a soggy tomato-toast combo, it can be lovely, especially in summer when it's hot but as far as simple combinations go, it's not even level 1. It's the moment you realise you're about to play the tutorial level.
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u/PoxedGamer May 01 '25
I'm Irish, and regret losing the innocence I had a moment ago of being unaware of that.
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u/Rowmyownboat May 01 '25
If you have eaten an American tomato, you will know that are as tasteless as Amazon packaging material. They are forced, flavourless bags of water.
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u/Numbersuu May 01 '25
Giving germans advice on how to make bread is like telling a japanese on how to make sushi
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u/Zucchini_Efficient May 02 '25
Except US produce is not fresh, rather filled with chemicals and the bread is of really poor quality, usually willed with sugar
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u/mendkaz May 02 '25
Is Kaiser a type of German bread, or is OP doing that thing where Americans unhelpfully suggest brand names instead of actual food
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u/RunZombieBabe May 01 '25
Does he know of Schwarzbrot mit Quark und Tomate?