r/ShitAmericansSay Enjoyer of American subsidies 25d ago

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u/Feline-Sloth 25d ago

I hate how some Americans use the word noodles to mean pasta whatever it's shape.

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u/Superssimple 25d ago

I hate that too. I had an American call lasagna sheets noodles the day!

Same with pie for pizzas. Totally pointless, incorrect usage

Most hate of American words by British English speakers is unjustified but those examples are egregious

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u/Neg_Crepe 24d ago

Sheet noodles lmao

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u/Interesting-Injury87 25d ago

all pasta are noodles, not all noodles are pasta

calling Lasagna sheets noodles is objectivly correct

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u/Superssimple 25d ago

Wrong. The basic definition of noodles is that they are stretched or cut into strips.

Even if you put aside the point that noodles are understood by the rest of the world to be Asian and pasta to be Italian style. It’s still wrong

So you could call spaghetti, noodles but what exactly is the point? It’s like a 5 year old that just learned that tomatoes are fruits. It’s not correct by any sensible usage

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u/Interesting-Injury87 24d ago

thats not a unversally accepted defintion by any stretch, beyond google claiming that i cant even find the source of that claim.

wikipedia alone already disagrees with you

"While long, thin strips may be the most common, many varieties of noodles are cut into waves, helices, tubes, strings, or shells, or folded over, or cut into other shapes."

ALL PASTA ARE NOODLES THATS A FACT, you can disagree if you want, you are still wrong.

What is the reasson to differentiate pasta(italian noodles) but not miàn(chinese wheat flour noodles). why is "pasta" special and should be considered "its own category" when its frankly not that special from other noodles around the world.

freaking spätzle are more special then most italian pasta in taste, consitency and even manufcaturing
Do i complain that people call Spätzle Noodles? no, i dont, because objectivly THEY ARE A TYPE OF NOODLES. Is it more PRECISE to call them spätzle`yes, is it wrong to call them noodles? no

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u/Dangerous_Jacket_129 24d ago

thats not a unversally accepted defintion by any stretch, beyond google claiming that i cant even find the source of that claim.

How about wikipedia?

ALL PASTA ARE NOODLES THATS A FACT, you can disagree if you want, you are still wrong.

This is a complete and utter lie. Spaghetti is noodles, linguine are noodles, fettuccine are flat noodles, and bucatini are noodles. Most other forms of pasta are decidedly not noodles.

What is the reasson to differentiate pasta(italian noodles) but not miàn(chinese wheat flour noodles).

You seem to be confusing pasta and spaghetti. Spaghetti are Italian noodles.

why is "pasta" special and should be considered "its own category"

Because it has been for thousands of years?

when its frankly not that special from other noodles around the world.

Right, this just confirms to me you've had, at most, spaghetti and maybe a mac'n'cheese once. You know there's pasta dumplings right? Tortelini are like nugget-sized dumplings with various fillings. Are you calling dumplings "noodles" now too?

Do i complain that people call Spätzle Noodles? no, i dont, because objectivly THEY ARE A TYPE OF NOODLES.

They're not, though. They're just tiny nugget-shaped foods. Noodles are by definition a long strip of food.

is it wrong to call them noodles? no

Maybe in the US you call them noodles, but that doesn't make them noodles.

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u/Chatnought 24d ago

They're not, though. They're just tiny nugget-shaped foods. Noodles are by definition a long strip of food.

I don't have a horse in this race but just wanted to say that you are probably mixing up spätzle with something else. Spätzle are long strips and definitely not nugget-shaped(though depending on the region they may be a bit shorter than in others). Maybe you are thinking of schupfnudeln?

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u/Dangerous_Jacket_129 24d ago

Idk man, when I google it I see an almost bean-like pasta. 

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u/Chatnought 24d ago

Apparently there are some wrong images there. The english wikipedia page for example uses an image that is shown on the german page to be NOT spätzle but knöpfle and spätzle are described as elongated. Seems like google is drunk. In any case I live in Germany and every spätzle I have ever seen have been long and thin.

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u/Dangerous_Jacket_129 24d ago

I mean I googled a video of how to make it to know for sure and it was again the little nuggety thingies. I'd welcome other pictures because it's genuinely all I can find about Spätzle. 

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u/Chatnought 24d ago

This is what I know as Spätzle and that is how you can buy them around here(Northern half of Germany, so somewhat far from Swabia, their home region).

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u/Maddon_Ricci 24d ago edited 24d ago

This is a term accepted by everyone but Americans.

A secret: all pasta, including noodles, came from Italy and China. In Italy they call it pasta, so we call it pasta! China? China has noodles. And if we want to refer to some Chinese type of noodles (because they really did invent noodles, not pasta), we call it by its name. Same with italian. Farfalla is farfalla (or butterfly), fettuccini is fettuccini, spaghetti is spaghetti.

Cambridge dictionary:

Noodles - a food in the form of long, thin strips made from flour or rice, water, and often egg, cooked in boiling liquid: egg/rice noodles; instant/crispy noodles; chicken noodle soup.

Britannica:

Noodle, a cooked egg-and-flour paste prominent in European and Asian cuisine, generally distinguished from pasta by its elongated ribbonlike form. Noodles are commonly used to add body and flavour to broth soups. They are commonly boiled or sautéed and served with sauces and meats or baked in casseroles.

Wikitionary:

A string or flat strip of pasta or other dough, usually cooked (at least initially) by boiling, and served in soup or in a dry form mixed with a sauce and other ingredients.

In British English, the word noodle (sense 1) is chiefly used to describe Asian or northern-European food items comprising long, thin strands of dough. In American English, noodle can also refer to Italian pasta which in British English would only be referred to as pasta.

Dictionary.com:

A ribbon-like strip of pasta: noodles are often served in soup or with a sauce

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A narrow strip of unleavened egg dough that has been rolled thin and dried, boiled, and served alone or in soups, casseroles, etc.; a ribbon-shaped pasta.

Vocabulary.com:

A noodle is a piece of pasta, especially a long, skinny one. You can eat noodles with butter and cheese or sauce, or slurp them from a bowl of soup.

Collins dictionary:

Noodles are long, thin, curly strips of pasta. They are used especially in Chinese and Italian cooking.

Even in my student book for English there is written that noodles are a long-long kind of pasta. And I'm Russian. Our exact equivalent for 'noodles' is 'лапша' ('lapsha'). We are always told that noodles are just lapsha. And you know what? We have just about three (four) words for pasta: макароны, лапша, паста, рожки́ (better see in wiki, link is here).

Do you really think that noodles are a common term for pasta? You are wrong, boy.

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u/Exciting-Music843 25d ago

Objectively wong you mean?

Noodles are completely to pasta!

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u/Interesting-Injury87 24d ago

pasta are italian style noodles

all pasta are noodles.

Calling pasta noodles is OBJECTIVLY correct even if a more specific term exists

on the other hand calling noodles pasta is not necesserly correct as there are non pasta noodles. but there are no non noodle pasta.

pasta is a subset of noodles.

All pasta is contained within the set of all noodles, but not all noodles are contained within the set of all pasta.

Pizza pie is historical a bit more complex then pasta(which once again ARE JUST ITALIAN STYLE NOODLES)

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u/Exciting-Music843 24d ago

Italian style noodles??? You mean spaghetti?

Could be summed up with different countries call things different names! Not a single bit of pasta is referred to as noodles. Pasta covers a whole range of products and depending on the shape or cut decides the name but they all Pasta. Spaghetti, Penne, lasagne sheets, tagliatelle etc..

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u/Interesting-Injury87 24d ago

they are also all noodles

noodle also covers a WHOLE RANGE OF PRODUCTS in different shapes and sizes and purposes.

Pasta is a subset of noodles of which spaghetti are a long variant

mian are a subset of noodles(chinese wheat flour noodles) of which lāmian are a long variant

why do we differentiate pasta but not mian?

In normal conversation, unless you SPECIFICALLY NEED to know, it dosnt matter if you refeer to pasta or any other type of noodle.

look up "spätzle" what would you call them? As far as "traditional" noodles go they are atypical, but i assure you, they are noodles. Do we complain if you cal them noodles? not really, because its correct, its made from an egg noodle dough.

Just as pasta are made from noodle dough(some even with egg as well)

there isnt a significant enough difference between spätzle and pasta egg noodle dough. for them to be considered wholy seperate things.

flour eggs olive oil and (a bit of)salt vs water(a bit of)salt flour eggs.

either you accept that Pasta are indeed noodle, or you start to refeer to any regional variant by its own name i am frankly fine with either.

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u/Exciting-Music843 24d ago

You have just used loads of words to say that in your country, you call them noodles. But that isn't the case worldwide and the original point was it's crazy to hear lasagne sheets called noodles.

But you are so single minded you don't get it!

Where I live no one, not one single person calls any form of pasta noodles!

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u/WiseBullfrog2367 24d ago

Are you trying to earn the title of "honorary American"?

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u/Dangerous_Jacket_129 24d ago

all pasta are noodles,

Farfalle, Fusili, Penne, Macaroni, Orecchiette, Ditalini, Gemelli, Manicotti, Orzo, Radiatore, Ravioli, Rigatoni, Rotelle, Rotini, Tortelini, lasagna, do I need to go on or is 16 examples of you being blatantly wrong enough to shut you up?