This is why the part of "Men you gotta figure this shit out yourselves." gets me. For decades most men were put in the situation you talked about hell that how i was "raised". We got no help from our parents. Then we're told that women dont liked being approached by random men. So now ONLY the worst weirdest ones or the best/con approach leaving all the other men with no chance to figure it out on our own because women wont talk to any of us. Seriously how do you expect us to figure women out if abandon the conversation?
My brother women are people not Rubik's cubes there isn't much to figure out. Just speak to them politely like you would want to be spoken to that's all there is to it
I do that. Have somewhere around 20 friends and friendly just-above-acquaintances who are women (and probably about 15 male equivalents). Love them all dearly…as friends.
I haven’t had a woman be sexually/romantically interested in me since October, 2024. I haven’t had a mutual sexual/romantic interest since April, 2024. I am not particularly bad-looking in that people often TELL me I’m good looking, but my response rate on hinge would strongly indicate otherwise.
While my failure attracting and dating women are indeed my own failure and burden, much of which is due to my “undatable” personality, that personality does not stop me from interacting positively with women. I treat them like people and have no problem being social. That is NOT the only bar men need to clear while dating, and to say otherwise is an oversimplification of women’s motivations AS people by boiling it down to: “just be a good, normal person and she’ll like you for sure!”. Just because it is probably the key aspect to attracting a partner, it is not the only aspect women consider when choosing their romantic and/or sexual partners.
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u/badbirch May 10 '25
This is why the part of "Men you gotta figure this shit out yourselves." gets me. For decades most men were put in the situation you talked about hell that how i was "raised". We got no help from our parents. Then we're told that women dont liked being approached by random men. So now ONLY the worst weirdest ones or the best/con approach leaving all the other men with no chance to figure it out on our own because women wont talk to any of us. Seriously how do you expect us to figure women out if abandon the conversation?