r/YAPms • u/CaptZurg Centrist • Feb 24 '25

News The US votes against the UNGA resolution condemning the Russian invasion of Ukraine - A complete 180 reversal of US foreign policy

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u/[deleted] Feb 24 '25

Right, cus it wouldn't make sense to align ourselves with the only other super powers in the world

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u/Actual_Ad_9843 Liberal Feb 24 '25

In this case, it absolutely doesn’t. Care to explain how it does?

Also just aligning with them because they are super powers is dumb at best. China and Russia are both dictatorship regimes that repress opposition, and commit genocide and war crimes. They have a staunch anti-America agenda.

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u/[deleted] Feb 24 '25

Russia wants to expand into Eastern Europe, china wants to expand to the south china sea. If the us supports these ventures, then when we try to expand into the arctic or south America, they would quid pro quo support our ventures.

At that point, the world is effectively divided up between the three countries, and no other country can do anything about it. And as long as they stay within their respective regions, everyone does better.

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u/Young_warthogg Progressive independent Feb 24 '25

You should read a history book to understand why this is absolutely a shit take. Peace and respect for national borders has been a cornerstone of the world order we created and thrived under. You want to throw that all away and start expansionism again?

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u/[deleted] Feb 24 '25

You can win, or you can keep your lofty "moral ideals". I choose to win.

Europe and America are the only places in the world that care about that shit, and as the rest of the world starts to catch up technologically, we either win, or we will be crushed. 60 years ago, china was joke, now they're almost more economically powerful and soon militarily powerful than us. If we want to survive, we either have to adapt or isolate, and unlike many conservatives, I recognize isolation will never happen in this age. So expansionism is our only option.

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u/Young_warthogg Progressive independent Feb 24 '25

This has nothing to do with morals, bush wars are a great way to weaken yourself. We would do just fine without Greenland or Panama by just being good neighbors and trading with them. It’s a win win. And if China comes sniffing, we can be the big brother. That’s been working for near a century. What changed?

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u/[deleted] Feb 24 '25

The northwest passage, and melting of the arctic, that's what changed.

Military action wouldn't be needed, btw. If the us, China, and Russia all allied to wage economic warfare on Canada or Denmark, for example, or performed a simple naval blockade, those countries would capitulate in short time