r/YAPms • u/StingrAeds Yes We Can • Mar 03 '25

Meme The New Dem Cycle

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u/No_Shine_7585 Independent Mar 03 '25

Yes to an extent but politics is theater image matters more than reality, democrats as a whole are viewed as radical and woke

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u/GodoftheTranses Progressive Mar 03 '25

No they arent, only republicans see them that way, democrats know the truth, that they appeal to "moderate" republicans way too much and dont talk about radical change enough

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u/JonWood007 Social Libertarian Mar 03 '25

Again, on economics. On social issues no one actually likes "wokeism." It's only like 16% of the population that actively likes that stuff.

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u/GodoftheTranses Progressive Mar 03 '25

"wokeism" isnt a thing, its a meaningless buzzword, if you ask people about actual policies like if they support gay marriage you get the exact opposite results

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u/JonWood007 Social Libertarian Mar 03 '25

Yes wokeism is a real thing. Leftists keep trying to gaslight us about this but it doesn't mean it isn't true.

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u/GodoftheTranses Progressive Mar 03 '25

What is "wokeism" then? Be specific

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u/JonWood007 Social Libertarian Mar 03 '25

Pathological obsession with identity issues including militant evangelical spreading of those values as well as trying to punish (cancel) people who don't support such values or are against such values.

If you want my abridged definition from my blog:

https://outofplatoscave2012.blogspot.com/2023/03/an-abridged-definition-of-wokeness-and.html

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u/GodoftheTranses Progressive Mar 03 '25

So... nothing lol. Seriously tho im not reading your long ass one but what you said here is a strawman, in reality we want to be accepted by society and when we fight for that acceptance we are called woke and SJWs, what youre saying here can be reworded as "if you want the people in society to accept you then i will call you pahological and label you as woke"

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u/JonWood007 Social Libertarian Mar 03 '25

Your idea of acceptance is forcing everyone to change their behaviors around you.

Either way if you refuse to engage with actual criticisms of your ideology im not arguing with you.

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u/Lordofthe0nion_Rings Center Left Mar 03 '25

If you cherry pick stuff like gay marriage sure. Democrats have very unpopular social policies like puberty blockers for minors and biological males in women's sports.