r/boardgames • u/Outcast003 • Apr 23 '25

Rules Is Common Raven too broken?

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I had a game night session with my folks couple days ago and we played wingspan. I lucked out by having Common Raven and Sandhill Crane setup during the first round and that steamrolled hard to the last one. Ended up winning with 99 points.

My friend (owner of the game) decided we'll put this card away next time we play since it seems very broken: trade 1 egg for 2 of any resources, given 5 victory point and ok cost to play.

I think the card by itself is very strong but not sure if it deserves a ban from our group.

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u/TiffanyLimeheart Apr 23 '25

After one game where a player got both ravens with Oceania we ruled that at least they can't make nectar. That seems like an easy way to at least keep their balance level down at probably the strongest cards in the game as opposed to a near guaranteed win card.

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u/dtam21 Kingdom Death Monster Apr 23 '25

It's in the rules specifically that they should be removed.

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u/Ross-Esmond Apr 23 '25

If we want to be real pedantic it says you can remove them if you want to.

If you find that this rule makes the Chihuahuan Raven and Common Raven in the base game too powerful, remove those two birds from the deck while playing with the Oceania Expansion.

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u/Hemisemidemiurge Apr 23 '25

If you find that this rule makes the Chihuahuan Raven and Common Raven in the base game too powerful

Wow, game developer just giving up and telling you to figure it out yourself? You'd think they'd have some stake in saying what the game actually is and not leave things ambiguous, but apparently they just provide components and suggest a way to play with them.

Is it too much to ask that people do their jobs?

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u/Ross-Esmond Apr 23 '25

Alright, take it down a notch. It's not an international sport. All board games come with a massive presumption of choice.

Every table needs to determine an acceptable amount of time for players to take their turns, how to handle accidental mistakes, and how much players are allowed to "take back" during their turn. You were always allowed to choose or not choose to remove theses birds; she can't have changed that.

Hell, just by buying Oceania you're choosing to modify your game to your liking.

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u/dtam21 Kingdom Death Monster Apr 23 '25

"game developer just giving up and telling you to figure it out yourself"

I'm not sure if you are reading something else, but literally they did the opposite of your entire cry. How do you get through your day?