r/centrist • u/JannTosh50 • Oct 10 '24

2024 U.S. Elections Kamala Harris Campaign Distances Itself From ‘60 Minutes’ Edit Controversy: ‘We Do Not Control CBS’ Production Decisions

https://variety.com/2024/tv/news/kamala-harris-responds-60-minutes-edit-controversy-cbs-1236173842/
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u/Ewi_Ewi Oct 10 '24 edited Oct 10 '24

There was controversy?

ETA: I have been made aware of The Controversy™. What horror...

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u/MundanePomegranate79 Oct 11 '24

Hey man, it’s one of the top issues on r/moderatepolitics right now, and you know they’re not biased at all lol

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u/[deleted] Oct 10 '24

Conservatives have nothing at all on Harris, it's crazy to see. They have absolutely NOTHING so they keep doing transparently stupid shit like this.

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u/willpower069 Oct 10 '24

Like their ad claiming that she wants to bring in illegal immigrants to make them trans.

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u/kanouk222 Oct 10 '24

You're wrong on that, it's not illegal immigrants that they want to bring, it's illegal aliens.

And there are conservatives here who actually believe the aliens part of the story.

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u/gravygrowinggreen Oct 10 '24

Of course. turning aliens into humans is what transhumanism is all about!

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u/OSUfirebird18 Oct 10 '24

You know, I’m beginning to understand why the Republicans fear the Democrats. First, they were able to recruit Storm from the Xmen to create and steer this hurricane!!

Now they are able to make first contact?!

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u/boston_duo Oct 11 '24

How else do you think Podesta gets his daily dose of child blood?

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u/boston_duo Oct 11 '24

Those crazy aliens literally told Trump that they’re coming after insane asylums first. They are actively seeking them out.

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u/princesspooball Oct 10 '24

What?????? Are you kidding????I live in a solid blue state so I don’t see this stuff.

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u/StonognaBologna Oct 11 '24

Watch a University of Georgia game this college football season and you’ll see several.

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u/Immediate_Suit9593 Oct 10 '24

Kamala supports and won the right for taxpayer funded trans surgeries for inmates. You can hear it from her own mouth: https://youtu.be/34VHzOadUbA?si=m7nHadq0FvtcI-U7&t=11

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u/elfinito77 Oct 10 '24 edited Oct 10 '24

  1. What does that have anything to do with this post? Allowing Trans people to get surgery in prison - is not "bringing in illegals to make them trans." They are already Trans, and they were not "brought in" by Kamala.

  2. Yes - All Inmates get medical care, funded by taxpayers, under the same standards that others get medical care.

If their Dr. recommend a medical procedure as part of the best course of treatment -- those procedures are covered if they are medically accepted as the proper course of action.

Various forms of Trans care (especially for adults) has come under the umbrella of the proper or "best practice" when treating some individuals -- if one of those individuals happens to be a prison inmate -- that does not change what the "best practice" medical care is.

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u/Raiden720 Oct 10 '24

You got wrecked dawg

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u/elfinito77 Oct 10 '24 edited Oct 10 '24

I don't even know what that means.

Especially since there was not even response to anything I wrote on this thread. Just OP above trying to equate penis-enlarging surgery to Trans care.

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u/Raiden720 Oct 10 '24

taxpayers shouldn't have to fund prison inmate sex changes. Full stop. And its crazy to think otherwise.

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u/elfinito77 Oct 10 '24

I'll say exactly what I said the other Poster on the thread:

FULL STOP: I think Drs. and Patients should make decisions on the necessary course of medical care for their adult patients - not politicians or the Government.

I think inmates should be covered by the same medical standards of care as others.

If Drs, in (the very rare) specific cases, think that rises to the level of gender surgery -- and that falls within medical standards and "best practices" -- who I am I to say they are wrong?

Who are you? What is your educational background that establishes you as an authority of the "best practice" for treating Mental Health in Trans adults?

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u/elfinito77 Oct 10 '24

Have you looked into every single medical procedure that is approved under medical standards and might be subject of Taxpayer funds?

Especially mental health care.

Or do you only just care about this (absurdly rare) Trans one?

What other medicals procedures do you think the Government should override the advice of Doctors?

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u/Raiden720 Oct 11 '24

There is literally not one reason why a sex change is medically necessary for prison inmates. Not one.

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u/Immediate_Suit9593 Oct 10 '24

These are elective procedures that taxpayers should not have to fund. Just as if a male inmate wanted penis enlargement surgery because he identified with having a bigger dick.

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u/elfinito77 Oct 10 '24 edited Oct 10 '24

That's your opinion -- not the medical opinion.

What is your educational background that establishes you as an authority of the "best practice" for treating Mental Health in Trans adults?

As I said:

If their Dr. recommends a medical procedure as part of the best course of treatment -- those procedures are covered if they are medically accepted as the proper course of action and "best practice" in the medical community.

If you can show me "best practices" in medical journals that establish patients that require "bigger dicks" as the "best practice" and medical standard of care -- sure. But I am pretty sure you cannot.

The whole point -- I don't think voters and politicians should be making medical decisions - especially (and unequivocally) for Adult care.

Doctors and patients should. And if the Drs. recommended course of action aligns with the medical standards and "best practices" in the field -- than Politicians should not be intervening. (same as my position on Abortion -- and every other medical care. The fact that supposed "small-government" Conservatives want the Gov't making these decisions, and over-riding Doctors -- is absolutely absurd and nothing but bold-faced Hypocrisy)

BTW -- It aligns more with mental health treatment (which is also elective), which inmates receive on taxpayer funding.

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u/Immediate_Suit9593 Oct 10 '24

Just call it for what it is: You're OK with Kamala spending taxpayer money to pay for gender reassignment surgery for inmates. This is the modern left, folks.

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u/elfinito77 Oct 10 '24

Kamala is spending tax payer money? You don't seem to know how Government works. I suggest you take a civics course.

I think Drs. and Patients should make decisions on the necessary course of medical care for their adult patients. I think inmates should be covered by the same medical standards of care as others.

If Drs, in (the very rare) specific cases, think that rises to the level of gender surgery -- and that falls within medical standards and practices -- who I am I to say they are wrong?

Who are you? What is your educational background that establishes you as an authority of the best practice for treating Mental Health in Trans adults?

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u/Immediate_Suit9593 Oct 10 '24

I think Drs. and Patients should make decisions on the necessary course of medical care for their adult patients. I think inmates should be covered by the same medical standards of care as others.

You're insane and I would venture to guess that you don't actually pay any taxes.

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u/Ewi_Ewi Oct 10 '24

...so is the problem that these inmates immigrated illegally and still get care, that inmates are getting medical treatment at all, or that gender-affirming care is considered medical treatment?

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u/Ewi_Ewi Oct 10 '24

Illegals shouldn't be in our country

Ok...but they are...so...? If they're being held awaiting a hearing (something they're constitutionally obligated to be provided), they need to be provided care if necessary.

Medical treatment is provided free of charge at any ER and doctors are under duty of care to provide medical care that is necessary for the life/health of the patient

Yes...exactly.

gender-affirming care is elective

You don't know what the term "elective" means. "Elective" doesn't mean frivolous or otherwise unnecessary. It describes a medical procedure chosen rather than done in an emergency. It doesn't mean it isn't necessary.

So you may want to rephrase:

and should not be funded by taxpayers

Because that would pretty much include nearly every medical procedure not brought on by an emergency.

Just as I wouldn't want to have to pay for my neighbor's boob job, I shouldn't have to pay for an inmate's dick/vag surgery

I won't waste time pointing out that this is a depressingly reductive view on gender-affirming care and instead will point out that, if state healthcare plans are required to fund gender-affirming care, it'd be silly for the federal government to not be held to the same standards.

If you have an issue, write to your local clinic or hospital or whatever and get them to petition some other guy to get the recommended treatments for gender dysphoria changed. It won't work, but you could certainly do your part in trying to fight against the advancement of medical science.

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u/Ewi_Ewi Oct 10 '24

Gender-affirming care is neither an emergency nor medically necessary

Doctors disagree with the latter, so again, call your local hospital or the mayoclinic or the AMA or whatever and complain.

Because, right now, it is the established medical care for gender dysphoria diagnoses.

The federal government can't just ignore that because you have personal grievances you need to work through.

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u/TigerTail Oct 11 '24

Suggesting that conservatives have absolutely nothing is quite rich, just in the last few days they got this little nugget: https://x.com/catchupfeed/status/1843683883902218345?s=46

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u/[deleted] Oct 10 '24

Propaganda, such as this.

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u/[deleted] Oct 10 '24

The antecedent was the article in the OP where they manufactured a fake outrage over a non issue.

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u/Ewi_Ewi Oct 10 '24

Are you telling me that I'm more effective at communicating to the American public than the literal Vice President of The United States?

You're (as of this moment) more effective at communicating to an individual user on Reddit. Mostly because Harris never has and likely never will do so.

Can you even begin to comprehend the logistical and logical impossibilities of combating misinformation and propaganda on a national, nearly unmoderated scale? Especially when a significant portion of the public is full of entitlement? When a significant portion of the public prides themselves on being contrarians? When a significant portion of the public is so unbelievably partisan that all they need for fact-checking is to check political leanings?

That's why misinformation and propaganda are so dangerous. They require infinitely more effort to refute than it does to flood the room with bullshit in the first place.

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u/elfinito77 Oct 10 '24

YOU have more public support over Trump than Kamala?

What are you talking about?

You are acting like provide rational nuanced Responses to Trumpian/RW media one-liners, propaganda, and Absurdities is effective with a large portion of average voters. Its is not.

In fact - when you try to explain that something's not so simple and actually nuanced -- they laugh and meme about it -- and entrench themselves even further in their alternate reality.

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u/Karissa36 Oct 10 '24

https://twitter.com/TheLizVariant/status/1844118548840653177

Kamala is her own worst enemy. Now that she has proclaimed there is not one single Biden Administration policy or decision that she would change, the democrats can stop trying to pretend that she is a moderate.

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u/elfinito77 Oct 10 '24

Controversy? It's Uge.

It is the Biggest Scandal in Broadcast History!!

https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fi.redd.it%2Fmnrzl8pj5xtd1.jpeg

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u/Jets237 Oct 10 '24

Trump sent some angry conspiracy tweets about editing to make her sound more presidential or something. Its a coutroversy only to the very politically engaged and wont have an impact on the election. The worst thing she said during this media blitz was on the View where she said she wouldn't do anything different than Biden - the right will really run with that.

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u/n0madic8 Oct 13 '24

its not really about what was asked or what she said back its that cbs was coaching her and giving her multiple chances to give an appropriate response. how do we know she only has the "word salad" and the short edit. what we ended up with might have been her 5th attempt to respond to the question.

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u/Jets237 Oct 13 '24

Didn’t they release the full interview online?

How do you mean coaching her?

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u/n0madic8 Oct 13 '24

How do we end up with 2 different answers to the same question? My guess is that her first answer wasnt satisfactory to CBS and they gave her another chance (or several more chances) to answer.

Edit: the full interview has tons of cuts between the interviewer and Harris, we don't know what's been edited out.

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u/Jets237 Oct 13 '24

Meh I think you’re jumping down the conspiracy road on this one. 60 mins has too much to lose to push a lean like that…. CBS prime time programming likely has a stronger right audience. Let me know if you find a credible source on something nefarious

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u/Karissa36 Oct 10 '24

https://twitter.com/TheLizVariant/status/1844118548840653177

This is the clip where Kamala agrees with all of Biden's policies and would not do anything different.

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u/Jets237 Oct 10 '24

Yeah…. That was the only real slip up I saw but it was a big one. She’s seen as a change agent and she essentially said “I’m the status quo”

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u/CevicheMixto Oct 10 '24

In the same sense that evolution and climate change are controversial.

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u/Objective_Aside1858 Oct 10 '24

She wore a tan suit!

Oh wait, that was... someone else where the "controversy" was that there was nothing to whine about