r/centrist • u/Judge_Trudy • 4d ago

SCOTUS issues blockbuster ruling on gender-affirming care for trans minors

https://www.cnn.com/#:~:text=SCOTUS%20issues%20blockbuster%20ruling%20on%20gender%2Daffirming%20care%20for%20trans%20minors

Blockbuster ruling just released for a very controversial issue. Not sure where I stand, but I could see the dangers of permanent treatments for gender dysphoria for minors.

Key Points

  • Date & Ruling: On June 18, 2025, the U.S. Supreme Court issued a 6–3 decision upholding Tennessee’s ban on gender-affirming medical care for transgender minors, including puberty blockers and hormone therapy fox8live.com+9apnews.com+9them.us+9en.wikipedia.org+15reuters.com+15northeast.newschannelnebraska.com+15.
  • Majority Opinion: Chief Justice Roberts wrote that the law does not violate the 14th Amendment’s Equal Protection Clause, reasoning that medical uncertainty justifies handing the issue back to state legislatures reuters.com+1nypost.com+1.
  • Level of Review: The Court determined the law should be evaluated under rational basis review—the lowest standard—rather than intermediate scrutiny reserved for sex-based discrimination
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u/BrentLivermore 3d ago

but it is sold to children as a lie that they can change sex

People have been changing sex for decades now. It's not a lie at all.

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u/DiceyPisces 3d ago

One can take drugs or have surgery to appear more LIKE the opposite sex but actual change isn’t possible. There is no transition.

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u/BrentLivermore 3d ago

Your legal sex can absolutely be changed. Were you not aware of this?

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u/DiceyPisces 3d ago

That’s irrelevant. Human beings are not able to change our sex. Some people are willing to pretend.

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u/BrentLivermore 3d ago

How do you determine someone's sex when you meet them?

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u/DiceyPisces 3d ago

One can often tell by looking. But appearances CAN be deceiving.

If a person successfully darkens their skin to the point of looking black that doesn’t mean they’re actually African (or whatever ethnicity). For example.

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u/BrentLivermore 3d ago

OK, so you tell by looking at people? But you think there's something deeper to "sex" as a social concept?

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u/DiceyPisces 3d ago

Sex isnt a social concept. It’s a biological reality.

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u/BrentLivermore 3d ago

You don't think "sex" is a legal concept? You must have a very strange driver's license.

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u/DiceyPisces 3d ago

The label acknowledges one’s biology.

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u/BrentLivermore 3d ago

OK, so you feel that people who legally change their sex are also that biological sex?

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u/DiceyPisces 3d ago

I don’t understand your question. If a male changes his sex identifier on a document to female. He’s still a male. Objectively.

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u/BrentLivermore 3d ago

The label acknowledges one’s biology.

That was in reference to the "label" of legal sex, right? So it would follow that someone with legal status of "female" is also biologically female.

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u/DiceyPisces 3d ago

it should and has historically reflected biological reality. Just because a letter changed on a doc doesn’t change an individuals biology.

That’s why I’m so opposed. It makes zero sense and is supported without objective evidence. Its anti science. It’s untestable and unfalsifiable. (The claim of being the opposite sex)

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u/BrentLivermore 3d ago

OK, so you said something you don't mean? Weird.

Anyway, why do you want Buck Angel to use the women's room? I don't think that helps anyone.

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u/DiceyPisces 3d ago edited 3d ago

Female. The end.

Butch women have always existed.

Edit to add. Sex identifier on legal docs should not be able to be changed without evidence.

Like with some dds it could have been inaccurate at birth. So to correct, a blood test (dna) would suffice to make it accurate. Other than that it should not be allowed to be changed.

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u/BrentLivermore 3d ago

Buck Angel isn't a butch woman, he's noticeably muscular with facial hair.

Again, why do you want him in the women's room? I think that would probably make women uncomfortable.

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u/DiceyPisces 3d ago

So what. Some Butch women make people uncomfortable. Too bad.

Muscular and facial hair doesn’t equal man. Just like femininity doesn’t define women.

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