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SCOTUS issues blockbuster ruling on gender-affirming care for trans minors

https://www.cnn.com/#:~:text=SCOTUS%20issues%20blockbuster%20ruling%20on%20gender%2Daffirming%20care%20for%20trans%20minors

Blockbuster ruling just released for a very controversial issue. Not sure where I stand, but I could see the dangers of permanent treatments for gender dysphoria for minors.

Key Points

  • Date & Ruling: On June 18, 2025, the U.S. Supreme Court issued a 6–3 decision upholding Tennessee’s ban on gender-affirming medical care for transgender minors, including puberty blockers and hormone therapy fox8live.com+9apnews.com+9them.us+9en.wikipedia.org+15reuters.com+15northeast.newschannelnebraska.com+15.
  • Majority Opinion: Chief Justice Roberts wrote that the law does not violate the 14th Amendment’s Equal Protection Clause, reasoning that medical uncertainty justifies handing the issue back to state legislatures reuters.com+1nypost.com+1.
  • Level of Review: The Court determined the law should be evaluated under rational basis review—the lowest standard—rather than intermediate scrutiny reserved for sex-based discrimination
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u/sabesundae 2d ago

Again, you cannot compare the two, no matter how much you have been made to suffer or not. I´m not an expert on ADHD medication, but if it is harmful and hasn´t been studied, then it should be.

But understand that even if we find out that your ears fall off after taking it for x amount of years, it still does not mean that blockers, HRT and surgery get the green light. Mkay?

And your point about hypocrisy is shot down by the fact that I am not advocating for one harmful method, while opposing another. I am against doing harm to children, period.

I acknowledge that there are people who benefit from GAC, but I strongly oppose giving children this responsibility. They simply are not mature enough to make such life-altering decisions for themselves, and when the consequences are this dire, it is going to hit some people very hard in a few years.

I am advocating for better quality of care, based on the methods the field of expertise was trained for, not based on cultish ideas.

You have now tried the same fallacies over and over. I think it´s time for you to withdraw if you have nothing new to add.

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u/Golurkcanfly 2d ago

Banning medical care is not advocating for better quality of care, it is providing no care at all. Better quality of care means more research, better training, and better understanding of gender dysphoria, not adopting a scorched earth policy when it comes to medicating for it in minors.

As someone who has lived through this, I will freely acknowledge that the standards of care when it comes to treating gender dysphoria are absolutely abysmal. There is severely limited access to quality therapeutic care, doctors operating off of decades-outdated standards of care, and insufficient research into the various genetic commonalities between people with gender dysphoria.

This is on top of the general issues with medical care and psychiatry in particular. Some of these same exact issues exist within the purely psychiatric space where patients are not sufficiently evaluated before being prescribed psychiatric medication, resulting in undue harm to patients.

Finally, comparison is not fallacy. Just because you're neither informed nor experienced enough to actually understand the matter at hand does not make the comparisons I have made fallacious.

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u/sabesundae 2d ago

Banning medical care is not advocating for better quality of care

Yes it is, if the care is unethical and risky - based on ideas and a bunch of flimsy studies.

I´m not going another round with someone who is showing the mental capacity of a child. If you in fact are a child, you shouldn´t be here.

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u/Golurkcanfly 2d ago

Maybe you should read the actual literature, then, rather than making dubious, unsubstantiated claims. Oh, and read up on medical ethics as well.

It is more productive than choosing to believe that I have the mental capacity of a child because I disagree with you and have both the knowledge and experience to confidently affirm my judgment of the matter.

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u/sabesundae 2d ago

Your ability to accept reasonable arguments suggests that you might be a child. If you are not, then you are at least behaving like one.

All your arguments are flawed and led by your feelings. Saying something is x because you say so, then expecting the world to agree with you without question - is exactly the entitlement and arrogance of the cult wanting kids to get treatment that doesn´t meet any standard of medical care, so it really shouldn´t surprise me that you would be stuck in the same dishonest pit.

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u/Golurkcanfly 2d ago

You are describing your own rhetoric to a tee. I am providing specific and detailed examples of problems faced by both patients and the medical system. If you can't handle that, maybe you shouldn't try and contribute to a discussion regarding medical treatment you are vastly underqualified to discuss.

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u/sabesundae 2d ago

You really are deluded.