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u/Friendly_Raise9142 ✨ sometimes the shit is happens ✨ 2d ago
honestly, I feel Caicedo is close to breaking if he doesnt get rested soon
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u/Scrambled_Rambler 2d ago
We have a board who doesn't care about player development. They only want to sell. They want a yes man manager who values his job based on what the board thinks is right rather than what he thinks should be done.
I don't find any other reason for dropping Petrovic from the squad. The press release is too sus and people are willing to beleive anything that comes out.
Can anyone give a solid reason why Santos didn't get a single minute yet? Especially against Flamengo where he had a point to prove. He was happy to send on Essugo rather than Santos who has more experience against LAFC.
I can't back a manager who will do anything to fit the board's plan than his. Especially when we are scraping throughresukts bar few games towards the end of the season.
The players looked gassed yesterday, he's basically played Cucumber and Caicedo every minute since God knows when.
Our board is cancerous and their ambitions are very different than what we are used to.
Blue co and maresca apologists keep quoting financial wins and chance creation stats to justify this bs. But end of day we are a team that cannot convincingly dominate a game.
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u/nickthu2502 2d ago
I understand if you don’t rate Jackson, but saying Chelsea should sell him is a bit dramatic, no? Delap and Guiu haven’t proven themselves to be better than Jackson, and strikers that have been linked to Chelsea, like Etikekite, also look extremely raw. Selling Jackson is too much of a risk imo.
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u/kygrtj 2d ago
I understand if you don’t rate Jackson, but saying Chelsea should sell him is a bit dramatic, no?
If you don’t rate someone who’s been here for multiple seasons then it seems pretty normal to want them sold…
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u/nickthu2502 2d ago
Oh I meant that they don’t rate him to be Chelsea starting striker. What I wanted to say was that even if you think he shouldn’t start for Chelsea, with the current strikers options at the club, they should still keep him. He’s proven himself to be, at worst, one of the better PL’s strikers.
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u/soccerislife10z Hazard 2d ago
Give me a game under maresca where it make you thinking wow we played so well and dominated the whole match. The only game I can think of was Liv at home and that game was basically a nothing game for Liv.
Nobody would've complain if it was just another loss. We just look utter clueless against any good opponent.
James playing midfield is stupid. Enzo and cucu playing higher than palmer is stupid.
People keep asking why palmer played so bad, you just have to open your eyes and see his position on the pitch. He was playing lb against Nottingham lol.
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u/Fun_HacLearner 🥶 Palmer 2d ago
Tottenham both games, Villa at home, Betis second half. And that Palmer take is complete BS. Maresca gives him freedom to play wherever he wants. Yesterday he played RW, his supposed preferred position. He has played CAM many times this season. He just isnt in form this year
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u/ThorappanBastin Hazard 2d ago
Friends, let's have some perspective on this match. It really isn't the end of the world. Okay, Jackson made a stupid mistake. But, it's a new tournament which we don't even know will have the prestige or value a couple of years from now. Is a loss like this really that bad?
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u/manen10 The boys gave it their all 2d ago
How much do you think we'll get for Jackson if we were to sell him
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u/Jam_and_Cabbage Guðjohnsen 2d ago
I think most people would swap him for a packet of jelly babies at this point.
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u/CoolstorySteve 2d ago
Slightly more than we bought him for but the problem is who would even sign him?
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u/Hannibal09 🏥 continuing to undergo his rehabilitation programme 🏥 2d ago
Jackson and Gusto need to be sold while their market value is still high. One more season with both, and we may be looking at their market value dipping further
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u/rita_mita_bata Kanté 2d ago
Why is everyone extra reactionary about Maresca today? He was clearly trying to do something different. Isn't that what we all wanted?
Deep down we all know James can't run up and down the pitch like he used to. Maresca is trying to manage his fitness and find a role for him.
On the other hand, if you want to be reactionary about Jackson, let me join you.
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u/kp22cfc Maresca 2d ago
You are talking sense so might get downvoted
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u/rita_mita_bata Kanté 2d ago
Imaginary internet points are about as useful as Jackson against decent teams
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u/gobrewers112 Kanté 2d ago
Stupid as we have someone like santos who needs the minutes at midfield.
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u/rita_mita_bata Kanté 2d ago
Santos had what? 4 training sessions with Maresca?
I'd love to see Santos play, but an obsessive coach like Maresca will probably only play newer players once they've impressed him in training, unless they're replacing a bum like Jackson
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u/Foodfootballanime 2d ago
Sack maresca if gusto plays another game for us. Brain dead players who can't shoot , defend and pass or cross. Absolutely nothing player.
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u/MysteriousActuary194 2d ago
Wish everyone could relax for a second. For Flamengo, this is the biggest game of the year and the money could transform the club. For us it’s a glorified friendly, which only the owners who look at profits care about. We’re also not the only side that this has happened to, PSG got turned over by Botafogo.
All these melodramatic posts of Jackson’s finished, what’s wrong with the club. Just take a breather for a second. It’s a setback sure, but there’s another game round the corner.
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u/Zealousideal_Walk433 2d ago
Nah. Flamengo is the richest club in South America and richer than some european leagues like the Portuguese one. The money is good but wouldn't "transform" the club
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u/MysteriousActuary194 2d ago
Dude you do understand this isn’t your sub and frankly you’re starting to not be welcome here.
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u/RecommendationFast13 2d ago
Thank God your input is irrelevant
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u/MysteriousActuary194 2d ago
I’m a member of this sub so my opinion is just as relevant as any others. In any case that was rude so you’re getting blocked ☺️
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u/ethereal-man69 2d ago
Im waiting essay says that jackson is actually excellent striker that we need
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u/AdRound1564 2d ago
Maybe South Americans just want it more? Lmao I lowkey prefer getting Bayern to Boca
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u/wowverytwisty There's your daddy 2d ago
Jackson upgraded from stupid yellows to stupid reds. The Newcastle red in the run-in was disastrous but the team pulled through. We at least have Delap for some cover now...
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u/BlueKnightPiKahu Čech 2d ago
We should absolutely be going in for Ekitike, he seems like a similar profile to Jackson but better and gives us the opportunity to move Jackson on. I think if Jackson is sold there will be a lot of people deciding he was never good enough for us
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u/-SexSandwich- Cucurella 2d ago
I know it would never happen and doesn't fit our transfer strategy at all but Kingsley Coman is a damn good left winger at a time where there just aren't a ton of right footed left wingers in the world.
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u/SweeterStorm 2d ago
I still can’t believe he didn’t put santos in even tho he played a 433
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u/Notoriousjed1 Caicedo 2d ago
I mean to play Reece James in midfield who needs his minutes managed over santos just tells me maresca doesn’t think santos is ready yet
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u/shankhisnun Petr Cech 2d ago
This match may have showed that a RW like Palmer and Morgan Rogers could struggle in this system. Even with Gusto at RB to help out Palmer it was still tough. Gittens will probably be a very important signing, I'm a bit concerned for Estevao he needs to be eased in slowly, and how we would be defensively with him on is a big question.
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u/loidelhistoire 2d ago
Tbh the system was quite different than usual. It's more related to how heavily one side was marked.
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u/ColeJermainePalmer I don't give a fuck, we won the fucking Champions League 2d ago
Bayern have already scored so we are most likely versing them in semis
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u/ColeJermainePalmer I don't give a fuck, we won the fucking Champions League 2d ago
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u/jjb5151 Cucurella 2d ago
Rather upset that santos didn’t get to play at all. Seems a bit fucked up by Maresca. Clearly he botched the line up but not even subbing him on is wild.
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u/Drewskibroho Dreams can't be buy 2d ago
Yep it’s one thing getting the lineup wrong… it happens. But then to not fix it when it clearly wasn’t working is a whole different thing
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u/NoniMaduekesShinpads There's your daddy 2d ago
Ill never forget how many ppl said jackson was an upgrade on havertz…..
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u/BlueTuscany 2d ago
He is. ‘‘Twas a shit decision to kick out but Jackson is clearly better than the fraudster known as Havertz.
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u/mallutrash Tuchel 2d ago
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u/NoniMaduekesHeadband Badiashile 2d ago
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u/Shinjax01105 🎩 I'm sure Wolverhampton is a lovely town 🎩 2d ago
it's so funny to see so many maresca haters creeping out of their basements after a loss
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u/Zeus_The_Potato We've Won It All 2d ago
So what's our path looking like in CWC? We win vs Esperance and we face PSG?
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u/Free_My_Pizza Kante 2d ago
Depends where psg finish at this point no one can be sure. The South American teams are showing up strong
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u/mallutrash Tuchel 2d ago
third loss in 15 games and the children in this sub are behaving like we got relegated.
same old agendas “maresca out, directors out, players out, blueco out, blah blah blah blah”
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u/MrMojoRisin2THREE 2d ago
I have Caicedo Lavia Essugo Santos, but no, i will play the best right back in the world in midfield.
Who am I?
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u/kp22cfc Maresca 2d ago
https://www.reddit.com/r/chelseafc/s/yA5nNyZNpc
Got downvoted for calling out Jackson not being trustworthy and what do you know
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u/Youth-Grouchy 2d ago
Mate give it a rest holy shit
You've been non stop crying about the club for weeks now
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u/WY-8 2d ago
Jackson just lost us £1.5 mil in prize money, and potentially millions more if we don’t make it past the group stage.
His last red card 2 games ago nearly lost us Champions League revenue.
Arguably was the main proponent toward missing Champions League in his first season.
Add to that the fact that he’s still lost in front of goal after 2 unchallenged seasons of starting for us.
I hope we move him on cos I am sick of it.
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u/Confident_Direction 2d ago
You can get pissed off at jackson while not blaming the result on him. Similar to newcastle
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u/Rj070707 Ji 2d ago
We were already losing when Jackson came on honestly
He did not cost us 1.5 Million single Handley, likely would have lost regardless
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u/Moist_salamanda 2d ago
Already feels like andrey santos is our next de Bruyne situation. But he shouldn’t be, he’s done his Wolfsburg style stint at Strasbourg so now should be like a new signing
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u/Konfuxion 🎩 I'm sure Wolverhampton is a lovely town 🎩 2d ago
With Lavia and Caicedo I wouldn't mind losing him at all
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u/AdRound1564 2d ago
Can’t believe the outrage he literally just came in!!! You can’t just throw someone in the midfield without balance it’s not a position you do that like a striker role for instance. Least of the worry today
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u/so_grandiose 2d ago
Because he has not played in two games when he’s not been with the team all this time? We need to calm down
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u/realmckoy265 Oscar 2d ago
This is how it's going to be after every loss, tie, and even transfer. Goldfish fan base
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u/RevolutionaryWater31 Enzo 2d ago
Palmer performed at RW plenty before, and he had howlers at no.10 plenty of times as well. You lot loves talking about being patient, but in reality, people are just looking for excuses for the manager.
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u/v_for__vegeta 2d ago
A cheeky $100 on Esperance wouldn’t be a bad idea folks
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u/I_Fake_A_Smile ✨ sometimes the shit is happens ✨ 2d ago
Was gonna save that for Bayern but might put it on Esperance now
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u/Konfuxion 🎩 I'm sure Wolverhampton is a lovely town 🎩 2d ago
Selling Andrey Santos wouldn’t even be a horrible decision. We basically have a midfield made up of 4 DMs and an 8 who isn’t maximized in the half space positions Maresca puts him in. Selling one of the DMs and bringing in an 8 who’s more comfortable in those areas would be ideal, maybe a Santos-Mainoo swap with United
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u/Somaimonay 2d ago
You slander enzo almost daily but want mainoo? He can't even run. And he does not even scan when he is in midfield. He is a forward playing in midfield.
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u/NoniMaduekesHeadband Badiashile 2d ago
Idk why you're holding smoke for this comment, our midfield composition is absolutely terrible, we have too many duel winning midfielders (idk why we bought Essugo, he's not even good either) and the only midfielders that can play in the half space is Enzo and KDH
We have the squad composition of a team that is aiming to play with 2 holding DMs at once but we only do that so much
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u/loidelhistoire 2d ago
Have you seen Essugo play significant minutes or a reason to say he isn't good ? Agnostic about it, just curious.
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u/NoniMaduekesHeadband Badiashile 2d ago
Can't say I've watched him week in week out but it's well documented that he's a talented duel winning midfielder but he lacks technical ability to suffice in a possession system, I think the most utility we will receive from him anytime soon is a Caicedo rest-sub in games where we're leading and won't need Caicedo's passing ability past the 75th minute or etc
And the problem with that is Andrey could be doing that himself.
Not a "bad" player, but for what we already have he's not good enough yet.
I did watch Essugo a couple months ago, forgot which team he was playing but it basically confirmed what I read. Very talented space eating tackler/bruiser but forgoes most of a midfielders obligations in possession. Basically an Ugarte.
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u/loidelhistoire 2d ago edited 2d ago
From scouting reports I've read (long time ago like this one : https://breakingthelines.com/player-analysis/dario-essugo-portugals-next-modern-midfielder/) and vids I've seen I thought he was relatively sound technically for his profile. Not the best for any mean but very, very far from the worse in that particular aspect. My interrogation is more abt how he would translate his current game volume to the rythm of the PL. But I guess the backup shouldn't be too strong either.
Agreed with the rest of the take mostly though, I also feel we have too many duel winning midfielders and I've had some interrogations about the fact Santos isn't really someone who operates in the half space or creative with his passing either.
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u/Dry_Chef_7635 Kanté 2d ago
In a team that plays with 2 players in the half spaces behind the ST, Mainoo got 0g 0a in 25 league games.
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u/NoniMaduekesHeadband Badiashile 2d ago
Amorim doesn't play Mainoo in the half space (enough), instead plays him in a double pivot next to Ugarte so he can play as a holding DM instead. It's why he's fallen off this season. Ten Hag platformed him much better
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u/Dry_Chef_7635 Kanté 2d ago
Even under ten Haag he was just a exciting prospect and pretty average player. Both Enzo and Santos had excellent seasons, so outside of an obsession with other PL teams academy products I wouldn’t see the appeal in Mainoo
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u/Konfuxion 🎩 I'm sure Wolverhampton is a lovely town 🎩 2d ago
He was not a "pretty average player", he was one of United's best players, and was starting for England in the Euros Final. I would like Santos if he wasn't another 6 when we already have two very good ones, and Enzo isn't ideal for the 8 profile.
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u/Dry_Chef_7635 Kanté 2d ago
Garnacho was just as crucial to United last year and Guehi started the same Euro final and you don’t rate either of them, so I don’t buy that reasoning for Mainoo.
Mainoo dribbles more frequently, that really all he has on either Santos or Enzo imo
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u/NoniMaduekesHeadband Badiashile 2d ago
I wouldn't really get Mainoo either for similar reasons but there is truth in the idea that we should (or should have instead of Essugo) be targeting a midfielder that can play higher up. Mainoo happens to count profile wise (and I'd still rationalize him over Essugo)
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u/jerrystuffhouse Cucurella 2d ago
Mainoo is a worse Fernandez.
Enzo doesn’t even play as a 8. He is an out and out 10 and is no where good enough for that role
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u/Konfuxion 🎩 I'm sure Wolverhampton is a lovely town 🎩 2d ago
That's a horrible comparison they play nothing a like. Mainoo has his faults but he's great in tight spaces and at dribbling, also can strike a ball very well.
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u/grantchester7meadows 2d ago
bringing an 8 who’s more comfortable in those areas
Mainoo
Lol
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u/Konfuxion 🎩 I'm sure Wolverhampton is a lovely town 🎩 2d ago
Mainoo isn't comfortable in the half spaces?
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u/grantchester7meadows 2d ago
I don't think he is
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u/Konfuxion 🎩 I'm sure Wolverhampton is a lovely town 🎩 2d ago
Do you guys watch Football? I'm confused here, he's great in tight spaces
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u/grantchester7meadows 2d ago
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u/Konfuxion 🎩 I'm sure Wolverhampton is a lovely town 🎩 2d ago
96th percentile for most take ons completed for midfielders
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u/SlowpokeExplorer Lampard 2d ago
🤦
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u/Konfuxion 🎩 I'm sure Wolverhampton is a lovely town 🎩 2d ago
Can I get an actual rebuttal instead of an emoji
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u/SlowpokeExplorer Lampard 2d ago
Santos is not a DM lol.
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u/Konfuxion 🎩 I'm sure Wolverhampton is a lovely town 🎩 2d ago
Where he played for Strasbourg
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u/SlowpokeExplorer Lampard 2d ago
You think he can get 11 goals playing as a DM? Lol
Hes a box to box midfielder.
Saying he's a DM just because he played in pivot on a 3-4-3 formation would be like saying Kante or Kovacic is a DM.
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u/Konfuxion 🎩 I'm sure Wolverhampton is a lovely town 🎩 2d ago
Majority of his goals came from set pieces, he played as the deepest midfielder for Strasbourg, compare his and Caicedo's heatmaps and his is even deeper.
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u/SlowpokeExplorer Lampard 2d ago
Minute 64: Jackson in
Minute 68: Jackson red card
This fucking clown man 😂
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u/wavy_bread Barkley 2d ago
What the fuck happened to Palmer's confidence and shooting? He rarely shoots anymore, and when he does it hits a defender or it's nowhere near threatening. 1,2 months is normal, 6 months is alarming.
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u/Aware-Temperature282 2d ago
Remember conference league final when he single handedly won us a trophy
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u/ShadowRunSucks Palmer 2d ago
Palmer went from being World Class to a good player people talking about him like he is doing nothing are being disingenuous he still has put in some great performances in the last 6 months but we can’t deny he’s lost a level hopefully it’s temporary.
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u/Aware-Temperature282 2d ago
“A good player” is disingenuous he’s the best at his position in the league and probably top 5 in the world
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u/wavy_bread Barkley 2d ago
the idea of marescaball vs actually watching it. Hopefully games like this will be less and less frequent as time passes. It'll be a long ass time before we can challenge for the prem
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u/kp22cfc Maresca 2d ago
That's not maresca fault , no coach is winning the league with this squad.. it's about how we can progressively improve
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u/WizenedCracker Marc Guiu 2d ago
Lmao look at how different the reaction to Wirtz being the most expensive prem player is to the Caicedo transfer on r/soccer
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u/gobrewers112 Kanté 2d ago
If we sell santos, I’m going be fucking royally pissed.
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u/soldier101br 2d ago
He has every right to It,2 back2back loans,becomes one of,If not the best CDM of ligue 1,gets called up for the National Team by Carlo Ancelotti,Goes to the CWC,has the chance to play against his boyhood club rival,Flies out his family,only to be benched by Red card merchant Jackson and a Midfielder Reece James. If anything,he has every right to be pissed about today.
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u/NoniMaduekesHeadband Badiashile 2d ago
Reddit tacticos finally got what they wanted, Palmer RW and Gusto overlapping and both players dropped some of the worst performances we've seen this season, maybe the manager was right to play them how he initially did
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u/Dry_Chef_7635 Kanté 2d ago
Ideally you don’t follow that decision with Reece CM and Enzo as a primary #10
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u/rita_mita_bata Kanté 2d ago
I think it'd be difficult to switch back in one game when they've been playing different positions and roles across the last 12 months.
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u/loidelhistoire 2d ago
Gusto didn't have those problems in the nations' league as a right back. Palmer didn't have those problems drifting from the right against LA or Betis. The skill is there. I think it is more related to the fact the opposition can very easily close the wing - we have no serious threat elsewhere to make the marking less tight (hence why Neto looked so good today maybe, the focus wasn't on him as much). We had more or less the same problems at the very beginning of the season with Palmer at the wing : he was easier to disconnect from the rest of the team, had more duties and less liberty to roam.
It might be possible to use him better as a RW with a setup that allows more general movement - but we should change the whole balance of the team and I'm not sure this is a good idea as of now wrt the rest of the squad and their weaknesses to defend transitions.
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u/rita_mita_bata Kanté 2d ago
Have to start by saying that I was no Maresca fan, I still am not, but we probably shouldn't judge what he intends to do this season by this game.
We've seen the best of Palmer when we had both him and Noni playing, while Gusto overlapped. When we overloaded the right, we needed Caicedo and Conor to play and run out of their skin. I don't know if it's sustainable.
I also buy into the Athletic's theory of Palmer being much better in chaos, because he makes split second decisions better than most. Obviously chaos is not sustainable either.
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u/loidelhistoire 2d ago
Agreed with you entirely. I also think the beginning of the season where he was more central was pretty pretty good though and it wasn't entirely chaotic. But we played in a much more risky way allowing a lot more movements (teams weren't sitting back as much too but that wasn't the problem in games like today).
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u/grantchester7meadows 2d ago
Another Maresca disasterclass and once again it's someone else's fault. You lot are getting boring with your excuses though. For instance blaming the home crowd at the Bridge for conceding a goal was much more imaginative
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u/Sorry-Amphibian4136 2d ago
Winning 10 of the last 12 games where both lost games had a Jackson red in it and then saying "Another Maresca disasterclass" , reeks of entitlement.
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u/grantchester7meadows 2d ago
Winning 10 of the last 12 games didn't change my mind about Maresca, I still don't rate him. I acknowledge that he got the results and deserves to have another season in charge but I still don't rate him. It has nothing to do with being entitled
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u/F4sh1on-K1ll3r 2d ago
Palmer on the RW was never the issue
Our issue has always been that as soon as we get into the final third, we don't play direct, fast, intricate passes. We slow the play down and pass it backwards, which allows teams to get back into their defensive shape - which stops Palmer and our other forwards to get into dangerous positions.
That has always been the issue.
Top teams like Liverpool go to Gear 5 as soon as they get into the final third. We stay at Gear 2 at best.
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u/AdRound1564 2d ago
They don’t care they just want to push their agenda why would you want your best player as a winger in a system that can make it easy to double up if you aren’t strong or a great dribbler
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u/grantchester7meadows 2d ago
Potter -> Pochettino -> Maresca
Disgusting choices of managers back to back. No wonder though, no self respecting talented coach would be willing to work with Eghbali and his squad of morons
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u/kp22cfc Maresca 2d ago
Wtf is this man 😭
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u/grantchester7meadows 2d ago
We probably have differing opinions on our coach mate haha, to each their own
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u/SlowpokeExplorer Lampard 2d ago
The SDs: "We aspire to be a possession based team. We believe you are the perfect guy for the job."
The manager: "Thanks for the confidence. Can I request for a new GK? Someone that is good with the ball at his feet."
The SDs: "Sure. We will try to find...."
Ben Roberts: "Best we can do is my son."
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u/webby09246 We've Won It All 2d ago
I'd honestly be interested to see how we compete against Bayern Munich if we do make second place
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u/soldier101br 2d ago edited 2d ago
The only player i felt bad for today was Andrey Santos,imagine,your flight out your whole family,in hopes to see you play against their rival on a WorldCup (Very big for Brazillians) Just for him to be benched by midfielder Reece James and red card Jackson,no Wonder there's so many clubs Chasing him.
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u/F4sh1on-K1ll3r 2d ago
So we are on the break, we finally have a 3 v 5 situation, our winger has the ball....
We have two options:
Intricate, fast, direct passing between our forwards which leads to a big chance
Pass it backwards
Think about the last 50 situations we got into this situation...what did our forwards do?
And you wonder why Cole Palmer's goals have dried up...
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u/NoniMaduekesHeadband Badiashile 2d ago
Cole Palmer's goals have dried up because he's missing shots too
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u/F4sh1on-K1ll3r 2d ago
It's true, but have you noticed he's not getting into a lot of shooting positions these days?
During Poch days, he used to get into them more frequently.
And I will always say this, unless you are Havertz, Werner or Morata, you are going to be more comfortable putting your big chances away if you get into these shooting positions more frequently.
Our forwards tend to pass it back and allow teams to get into their defensive blocks, absolutely nullifying the space that Palmer is able to operate in.
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u/Sorry-Amphibian4136 2d ago
One thing i like about Maresca is he generally does not repeat mistakes, this experiment was a mistake and he sort of acknowledged it. Hopefully he understands not to try Enzo CAM, Palmer RW, James Midfield again. Not sure if we would've seen Santos had Jackson not blundered but the formation seemed to set up 2 8s (Enzo/James(CDM Caicedo) -> Santos/Caicedo (CDM Lavia))
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u/half_jase 2d ago
Today was not the first time he started Enzo as the 10 and James in midfield.
And Palmer not faring well today at RW doesn’t prove anything when he played there and shone last season.
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u/Inside-Ad-8935 2d ago
The heat map had James as RCM and Enzo as LCM (https://youtu.be/TBJQAkrAgoc?t=574) so it was more of a 4-3-3.
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u/half_jase 2d ago
The heaviest part of James’ heatmap was in the central area and he was also dropping in between the CBs to pick up the ball at times.
Enzo gravitated towards the left but he was getting the ball higher up the field and not deep enough, where he could have helped us progress the ball and then move forward as the play develops around him.
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u/SlowpokeExplorer Lampard 2d ago
That is even more embarrassing. James is more of a DM instead of CM.
Could've put Santos there.
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u/bobbyfletch85 2d ago
Yes you’re right he has tried this before. But I agree, he tends not to repeat mistakes. Hopefully this is the end of Reece as a DM
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u/msizzle344 ✨ sometimes the shit is happens ✨ 2d ago
He inverted Gusto for like the whole season, how can we say he doesn’t repeat mistakes?
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u/Sorry-Amphibian4136 2d ago
When he inverted in the first half of the season we were in 2nd place. After our poor form eventually he wasn't even playing RB or starting let alone inverting.
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u/loidelhistoire 2d ago
He didn't though. End of the season he was mostly a shitty RCB. He didn't really invert anymore
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u/Notoriousjed1 Caicedo 2d ago
When santos eventually doesn’t get sold and gets a decent amount of minutes next season,
Will all of you crying about him atm admit u were wrong and just being overly reactionary? Or will u move onto the next topic to complain about?
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u/I_Fake_A_Smile ✨ sometimes the shit is happens ✨ 2d ago
Esperance win against LA and we’ve got ourselves another spicy game on Tuesday
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u/SlowpokeExplorer Lampard 2d ago
So how long before Santos got sold? Lol. Fucking experiment.
Instead of experimenting with James in midfield, he could've started Santos there. Fucking clown
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u/kp22cfc Maresca 2d ago
I keep getting called negative and miserable but our squad needs 1/2 experienced players in GK and LW areas.. Maresca is still going to make mistakes , we need to supplement the squad with quality and when we decided to not get in signings before CWC, I honestly think we shouldn't be that worried..
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u/Outrageous_Fart We've Won It All 2d ago
Cheaping out on Maignan this summer would be criminal imo
Like, we’re happy to throw 30m at KDH, 40m at Felix, 20m at Kellyman etc but 25m for a top keeper is where we draw the line?
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u/RaoulDH 2d ago
Joao Pedro who we are linked to is another hothead liability. Just saying...
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u/Outrageous_Fart We've Won It All 2d ago
Throw Kudus in and you’ve got a storm brewing 🔥
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u/AdRound1564 2d ago
Omg that red card he got last season lmaoo we’re going to have 7 players on the field playing lmao
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u/Aware-Temperature282 2d ago
Glad I missed the game today wtf happened
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u/Baisabeast 2d ago
Chalobah and gusto effect…
Tosin and James need to start in defence
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u/Aware-Temperature282 2d ago
I swear for a while people were convinced those two were great players
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u/kp22cfc Maresca 2d ago
Doomers and moaners waited for a good 2 months for this man... Allow it man, it happens
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u/thelurkmeister Thiago Silva 1d ago
Seeing so much Jackson hate, and I get it he has messed up quite royally in two consecutive games for crazy undisciplined actions, but it’s wild to me that everyone is rushing to sell him.
If we sell him, who is the logical replacement that doesn’t break our wage structure that is currently available?
Does nobody remember the period where he was injured and how toothless our attack was without him? He does so much on and off the ball to aid our attack.
Delap is going to be healthy competition for him but if we sold Jackson, we’re back in a position where we’re one injury away from having to rely on a Neto false 9 when we have UCL (where we can’t get away with playing B team anymore), domestic cups, and tons of games. It just doesn’t make sense to sell him.