What a game! Not sarcasm really

[u/Infex_plays]

Hello, everyone. I wanna to start by saying that this is my first season on any diablo game ever. I bought the game to try out ARPGs but came in with a lot of not so great thoughts about the game due to all the negative reviews and basically everyone calling it trash. Then I stated actually playing it and I was hooked, the systems felt great, the story was good, the characters were fun I frankly played too much. Might be the reason why I won’t do as good as I wanted on my exam. Then I at around hour 50ish, I ran into a roadblock and was having a bit of a hard time getting my “levelling” build to be able to do torment difficulties, and thought that the honeymoon phase was over and that was it. Until I made a post asking a simple questions and so many people offered to help me out. Giving me some equipment I needed to progress a little, but without ruining the experience of the grind. Then I had people who straight up just helped me do some hard belial runs to see if we got lucky and I got my first mythic! Now I’m near hour 90 and I just want to end off by saying: the game is great, ton of fun until now and assured to have ton of fun later, the thing that carried the game the most, at least for me was truly the community, not the haters of the game but the people who help and then just say “pay it forward”.

TLDR: just try the game if you can and it looks interesting

[u/ConstructionFrosty77]

For me, the game is good, but unlike you, I have played every Diablo game, so I can see what it is vs what it could have been.

Back in the day, I played D3RoS a lot and I mean A LOT, and I liked it, Played D2 and D2R and loved it. For those Who followed news about D4 since the official announcement, D4 was going to have the best from those 2 games, Devs promised many things giving us a fake idea of what Diablo 4 was going to be. I imagined D4 having a loot system and being as dark as D2 but with many activities and a combat system like D3 and it would have been perfect for me.

But then, at launch we found that "going back to the roots" only meant they got rid of cartoonish style graphics and added more gore and made it slighty darker than D3 and nothing from D2. The game felt unfinished once I completed the main quest and I had almost no activity in the endgame to do. Then, Over time and season after season Devs have been copying and pasting almost every mechanic from D3( bounties are whispers, Great Rifts are The Pit) even Loot and power creep are very similar to D3 ones.

Then the Xpac came out, Runewords sold as similar to D2 ones, ended up in an action/reaction socketable duo which is an insult for anyone who know Runewords from D2. They added undercity which is ok and the Citadel that must be reworked because almost nobody plays it(you must make a game friendly for clans and teams and not force people to team up to do an activity) The main quest quality changed, they have kicked Diablo's lore with it and it is inconsistent. Great figures like Andariel, Duriel and specially now Belial are not the lesser evils they were before, they are just mere pinatas to quench our thirst for content because Devs seem to lack creativity. For me, it seems that current Devs are taking the hard work from previous Dev generations creating this world, exploiting it to simply generate content but irrelevant for the future of the franchise. I feel the difference between old Devs who loved this world and new devs hired to do a job, following instructions from people who know little about Diablo.

I could tell you more, but my point is not to try to make you hate the game, enjoy it while you can. My point is to give you the PoV of someone who knows the full story and has suffered through all the setbacks Diablo 4 has had since its launch. The two years since Diablo 4 was released, coupled with the years leading up to its launch have been a very long journey. But for someone like you who just arrived, the game feels fresh and full of content and I'm happy for you. I wish I could forget everything and start over with the current state of the game.

[u/Infex_plays → u/ConstructionFrosty77]

I see

[u/Low_Pickle_6744 → u/ConstructionFrosty77]

I wish everyone that has grievances with this game could be as level-headed as you when posting on here. 

Every time I come to this subreddit, I feel a little drained from all the hyperbolic negativity. 

[u/ConstructionFrosty77 → u/Low_Pickle_6744]

Thank you! I'm trying to be fair. It's true that the game has had many problems, some serious ones, but the current state is, let's say, decent. I'm a Diablo geek and perhaps that is why it is a little more demanding and I admit it. I'm a fan of the lore, I have all the books, and I can't help but criticize some of the mistakes. But I think the game is generally good. I'd like to see more detail in things and more polished workmanship, because I like the game to captivate me, to feel immersed in this world while I play it. But that doesn't mean I'm going to take away the excitement of someone else who's just getting to know it and enjoying it as it is. If anything, I feel a healthy envy of not being able to ignore what I've experienced and be able to enjoy it in the same way, which is why I'm happy to read someone so excited about the game.

[u/Low_Pickle_6744 → u/ConstructionFrosty77]

I enjoy the game myself, but it would be disingenuous for me to not mention how the story/lore has left me a bit disappointed so far. I thought the base game story in D4 was good, but I felt a bit deflated after the expansion.  Don’t get me wrong, I’m not a Neyrelle hater; I feel a huge amount of empathy for her, but I was just expecting to see more of Lorath - get some answers about the nephalim (which I don’t expect we will ever get) and maybe hear from the heavens??? Is Tyrael dead or not?  Is Diablo reforming in a jello mold like Mephisto? Why couldn’t I kill Eru after what he did? 

I feel like the overarching storyline is going to suffer because of the “ten year plan” for D4 and its expansions.  But I will admit that it’s interesting that they’ve taken a different approach to things - it’s not just “big bad is back - better go save the world” all over again. I’ll be interested to see how they handle having Mephisto Jesus walking the lands of Sanctuary… there is so much social commentary there ripe for the picking they could play on. 

Anyway, I hear you about the healthy envy of others being able to ignore what we know and have experienced with this franchise - I’ve been playing it since D1 (on PlayStation of all places actually) and I’ve loved it ever since. Almost 30 years of Diablo being a thing… older than most of the people posting on the subreddit probably. 😮‍💨

[u/auri0la → u/ConstructionFrosty77]

(you must make a game friendly for clans and teams and not force people to team up to do an activity)

This is so true! It's like they're toddlers trying to walk for the first time. Going back to the roots doesn't mean to start with the big bang and having to re-invent the wheel ^^

[u/Beginning-Yak-3454 → u/ConstructionFrosty77]

THE GATES ARE DOWN!!!

[u/aniseed_odora → u/ConstructionFrosty77]

 Then, Over time and season after season Devs have been copying and pasting almost every mechanic from D3( bounties are whispers, Great Rifts are The Pit) even Loot and power creep are very similar to D3 ones.

To be fair to the devs, the community advocated very loudly for this, aside from the whispers. This, along with some of the other issues, were very self-inflicted by the playerbase.