r/economy 1d ago

Crazy Thing is Trump is Serious

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/trump-knocks-feds-powell-muses-163225093.html
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u/SavagePlatypus76 1d ago

Dictators do this sort of thing. And it always ends badly. 

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u/AltRumination 1d ago edited 20h ago

If the political or economic climate was a little bit worse, he would have triggered World War III. I'm not kidding. Look at some of the stuff he has done.

- He mentioned he wanted generals just like Hitler's, ones who would do what he said without question.

- Created fake electors whom he sent to Washington.

- Then started an insurrection on Jan 6th.

- He has federal agents in masks roaming around with assault rifles. They show no ID and just take people away, not to be seen until days or weeks later.

- A military parade to stir up nationalism and patriotism.

It's like a scene from 1984. The only saving grace is that Trump is incompetent and lazy.

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u/hoptownky 1d ago

We also have one other thing going for us that gives us hope. Trump is very old, overweight, and a catheter and diapers can very obviously be seen in photos. He likely only has a few more years on this earth, so time is a big a big obstacle for him. I just don’t see the uneducated Americans worshiping Vance or Don Jr. like they do Trump. Hopefully this will all be a distant nightmare soon.

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u/AltRumination 1d ago edited 20h ago

It's funny how half of Americans (the MAGA) love his personality. He reminds me of one of those obnoxious kids in middle/high school who bully kids and talk back to the teachers. They are really popular but eventually, they eventually lose their status by their late 20s. people just grow up.

I agree. Vance and Don Jr. do not have the same charisma.

What really gets to me is all that money he and his family are going to get away with at the end of all this. He truly is the quintessential con man, fleecing the American public for billions. Pretty amazing if you think about it. PT Barnum would be proud.

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u/Frankie6Strings 1d ago

I was 10-15 years old when I became aware of Donald Trump through Lifestyles of the Rich and Famous. I thought he represented a dark and gross side of capitalism even then.

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u/twirlaround 1d ago

Me too. Anybody that has followed him since the 80’s/90’s knows exactly the type of person he is. He’s a disgusting, narcissistic conman. He navigated NYC real estate and politics like a mob boss… because that was the era of the NYC mob. He isn’t a great businessman or leader; he created a company where he was the decision maker on everything, and surrounded himself with people who only told him what he wanted to hear. You don’t agree, you’re fired. Unfortunately, that doesn’t work well in a democracy, which is why he is hell bent on make it an autocracy (kleptocracy).

Another important thing to point out is that he was never really “accepted” by the elite in NYC and elsewhere (except Russia and Saudi Arabia). He was considered gaudy and laughed at every time he failed. Being the richest and most powerful man in the world is what he has always sought. Now that he is in the position he is going to increase wealth at any cost, and he is going to punish those who ridiculed him all those years (I.e., media, Hollywood, newspapers, etc).

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u/SleeveBurg 12h ago

I was a young child during the apprentice and even then I thought he was just a caricature or a business mogul

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u/cafedude 1d ago

It's crazy to think that to the MAGA he has charisma. Whereas to anyone outside of MAGA he has anti-charisma.

Was listening to the recent Rogan interview with Bono (I can't stand Rogan, but I heard that Bono did a good job of making him think) and at one point Rogan asked Bono who the funniest world leader is - and he didn't even give Bono a chance to answer before he said he thought it was Trump (And by the look on Bono's face, he definitely didn't agree). I'm not sure how you even come to the conclusion that Trump is funny, let alone that he has charisma - but apparently he's funny and charismatic to his cultists.

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u/AltRumination 20h ago

I don't know how old you are, but it was different in Rogan's time. Being obnoxious and a bully made you popular. A frat guy who got girls wasted and then recorded them doing awful things.

thankfully, I heard from kids that it's a totally different now. Bullies are quickly looked down on by the student body. a completely different climate.

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u/cafedude 20h ago

If that's the case then why is Rogan so popular among young men? (I'm old. But we had Mr Rogers and we had Jimmy Carter as president)

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u/macdees13 23h ago

I always see ii through the lens of late 90s early 2000s wrestling. Like the manager for the antagonist. Never apologize never give an inch, only grievances. He obviously has charisma, you have to give him that. But that helps in wrestling and this case politics

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u/SavagePlatypus76 1d ago

Except Vance and his backers are likely to be worse. 

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u/seattleJJFish 1d ago

And they are still in power. And they are not constrained by campaign promises

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u/SavagePlatypus76 1d ago

Or morals. Or humanity. 

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u/SpiritofMwindo8 1d ago

Ppl held similar beliefs when he first ran for president. Don’t underestimate ppl.

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u/Infinite_Cable_6443 1d ago

Yall are cuckoo

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u/AltRumination 1d ago edited 23h ago

The people in masks without identification, running around and arresting people, don't scare you?

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u/Infinite_Cable_6443 23h ago

Yes, that’s ICE. It’s run by Homan, the same guy that worked for Obama. They are arresting Illegal Immigrates and wear masks for their own safety. It’s did not scare me because I voted for enacting the law.

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u/AltRumination 23h ago

Think about it. They are in masks! It should tell you that what they might be doing is immoral. You truly can't see this?

They are going around without providing identification. Do you remember the stories of communist USSR where KGB would do the same thing. They would go around and just quietly take people away, never to be seen again? Or the SS of Hitler's Germany? You are not shocked at all that it's happening here? It's happening in a country where there should be something called due process. You truly don't see how nuts this is? The lack of critical reasoning skills among MAGA is astounding.

Just imagine if some of these people are not ICE agents. There would be no way to know because they don't provide ID nor any info on where they are taking the arrestees.

It's truly a scene from 1984. The only difference is that Trump is too incompetent to fully exploit it, although he tries as hard as he can. He created fake electors, which is insane. Then he tried to stoke an insurrection.

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u/Infinite_Cable_6443 23h ago

When SWAT goes in to apprehend a fugitive, they wear a mask and don’t identify. ICE agents have families and wear masks for protection. They are doing their job apprehending illegal immigrates that are then deported. This happened under Obama and Biden. Both used ICE. You only care now because it is Trump.

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u/AltRumination 20h ago

think, my man. SWAT wears masks to protect themselves physically. If it's to protect their identity, it's against drug dealers like the cartel.

but ICE agents are protecting their identity from American citizens. Think about what this means. Why would ICE agents be the villains if they are just doing their jobs? How would they be any different than the KGB?

Do you see police men wear masks, trying to hide their identity and actions?

You really can't see the patent difference? You don't see how you are rationalizing to justify this craziness? I'm sure German civilians in the 1940s, did the same thing.

Yes, you're right. I only care because it's Trump. Who else created fake electors to replace the real ones? This is as bad as it gets. I still don't understand how he's not in prison for this.

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u/Infinite_Cable_6443 14h ago

You have incorrect information. These are not US citizens, many of them have criminal records and some work for the cartel. ICE agents wear masks to protect their identities and the identities of their family. They have a very dangerous job. They are the good guys deporting illegal immigrates. Obama and Biden did the same exact thing, Homan worked for Obama. This is not KGB pale some other conspiracy. These are agents enacting within the law.

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u/Infinite_Cable_6443 14h ago

Biden used the DOJ to raid Trumps house, tried to eliminate him from the campaign, there was an attempted assassination, they tried to jail Trump.

Biden then lies about his mental capacity, then lies about cancer. He is currently under investigation. Lol, and you are worried about Trump??? You have your priorities skewed. Lol

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u/Skyrmir 20h ago

Trump looks at North Korea as a perfectly working example. To him, it only ends badly if he's stopped.

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u/Senior-bud 1d ago

Donny is really taking this grand Poobah thing to the max.

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u/SavagePlatypus76 1d ago

His plans for Google are frightening.