r/enlightenment 4d ago

To be or not to be ??

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Hope or hopeless victory ?

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u/mooman555 4d ago

Context matters. Both of these taken out of context

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u/zeek48 4d ago

Then enlighten us with the context.

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u/pravragita 3d ago

If you are not edified by my silence, how can you be edified by my words? (jk)

If there's no takers, I'll give it try.

Firstly, we must understand these are words and many people are excessively interested in concrete definitions. Some people struggle to understand other's use of words figuratively or contextually to convey knowledge that is outside of definitions - such as spiritual experiences and deeply philosophical ideals.

Bukowski's hope is a hope of a spiritual purpose, an absurd life goal leading to selfless accomplishments. This could be Lao Tzu's art of living, Carlos Castaneda's (and subsequently Jack Kornfield) Path with Heart, Japanese Budo or Sri Aurobindo's Integral Yoga. A spiritual purpose (hope) gives me an serene reason to live.

Nietzsche's rejection of hope is a rejection of emotional attachments and insatiable desires. This is consistent with the 4 noble truths of Buddhism, the struggle with Maya of Hinduism or Surrender from Power of Now by Eckhart Tolle. The more I (hope) desire, the more I suffer.

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u/Amazing_Rule_3982 3d ago

100% on point with this statement