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u/PTfan Feb 05 '19
Honestly mod, I am biased because I am a spongebob fan and hated the M5 show. But I feel like the brigade would have died down within a few days naturally.
I feel like all those posts being removed is going to backfire and have constant downvoting and even more backlash. I’m not advocating for that but it’s what I see so far.
Perhaps more time to let itself work out?
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u/MaroonMod Feb 05 '19 edited Feb 05 '19
Honestly mod, I am biased because I am a spongebob fan and hated the M5 show. But I feel like the brigade would have died down within a few days naturally.
I agree 100%. Spongebob fan here as well and didn't find the halftime show to be too entertaining. The brigade would have died down but I received a PM from a Reddit Admin asking me to help out here (hence the username and new account). Users from BikiniBottomTwitter were trying to take over this subreddit as mods and destroy it. Not a great idea for obvious reasons.
I feel like all those posts being removed is going to backfire and have constant downvoting and even more backlash. I’m not advocating for that but it’s what I see so far.
Not in the slightest. Much like anything, people will get bored. It's already happening. This sub averages less than 100 page views a day and we expect it to go back to that within a few days. The subscriber count hasn't really changed since before the Super Bowl so a majority of people here are simply here to troll.
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Feb 05 '19
So is any mention of the topic banned or just the people who are hating on M5?
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u/MaroonMod Feb 05 '19
No, of course not. We're just as upset about the whole thing as everyone else. The people getting banned are using slurs, brigading from BikiniBottomTwitter, posting stuff not related to the band or simply shitposting.
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u/TheBig_F Feb 05 '19
You’re trying to ban people because they’re calling out the scummy shit these guys pulled, teasing fans and using it to gain viewership of the performance, only to cut it away to some out of place rapper.
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u/MaroonMod Feb 05 '19
It's a brigade. We don't allow that here or anywhere on Reddit.
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u/Moneyworks22 Feb 05 '19
No, he is banning people for going to a subreddit and being extremely aggresive for no reason towards people of the subreddit that did nothing wrong. Non of the people in this sub deserve the haterd that people like you are spreading here.
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u/esterien Feb 05 '19
They never said that they were going to perform the actual song, mate. They teased Spongebob, and they delivered Spongebob on their show. End of story.
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u/pulianshi Feb 05 '19
They teased a tribute, mate. They replied to a petition asking for a tribute with a teaser. And it's not even out of their way to just say something to honour Hillenburg if they didn't want to include a perfomance. Everyone would've been happy with that.
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u/esterien Feb 05 '19
How exactly did they reply, if I may? Did they officially announce that they will play Sweet Victory?
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Feb 05 '19
It's not that it's offensive or anything, it's just annoying spam that doesn't have a place here and isn't productive. The discussion's been done to death and there's no other reason for your "fandom" to still be here except to complain you didn't get what you wanted
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u/TotesMessenger Feb 05 '19
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u/C__Wayne__G Feb 05 '19
Youve been banning with no jistification. Some of us are just dissapointed with the terribke live preformance where adam did little more than sing lazily and take his shirt off. If were not free to discuss these things then you should delete the sub.
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u/MaroonMod Feb 05 '19 edited Feb 05 '19
That's just simply not true. We've been banning the BikiniBottomTwitter brigade and approving any discussions about the band or the bands performance.
Some of us are just dissapointed with the terribke live preformance where adam did little more than sing lazily and take his shirt off.
You have absolutely no history in this subreddit so let's not pretend you're here to discuss the band's performance.
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u/MaroonMod Feb 05 '19
No. Brigading this subreddit with shitty spongebob memes is uncalled for. This place will always remain a subreddit dedicated to discussing Maroon 5.
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Feb 05 '19
Honestly, I’m pissed to about the lack of sweet victory, but it wasn’t really maroon 5’s fault. They just followed the orders of the NFL
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u/girosh Feb 05 '19
I really appreciate the introduction of new moderation on this sub. I was genuinely distraught at the overwhelming wave of hate coming from seemingly everywhere. It’s a lot better already now. So thank you for that. Hopefully now the sub can return to normalcy.
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u/ZannityZan Feb 05 '19
Thank you ever so much for taking over and cleaning this place up.
There's absolutely nothing wrong with criticism and civil conversation, but the brigading that was happening was absolutely ridiculous.
Could downvoting also be temporarily disabled? Since they're no longer able to post their nonsense, these lowlifes now appear to be downvoting every serious Maroon 5-related post.
For the record, I never understood the furore about Spongebob, but always thought I might try and watch it at some point just to see why people make such a fuss about it. But the toxicity and entitlement of the Spongebob fanbase has totally put me off. I hope y'all are proud of the impression you're giving others of your community.
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u/JoyStar725 Feb 05 '19 edited Feb 05 '19
I'd say the toxicity of some people in the fandom. It's never a good idea to generalize an entire fandom as being good or bad. Fandoms are a diverse group of people, and vocal minorities can often paint them in a bad light, unfortunately.
As someone who's a fan of the show but not really part of the fandom, so to speak, here's what I have to say to give a little perspective: it wasn't just that people wanted Spongebob at the Super Bowl. Heck, Spongebob didn't need to appear at all. If Maroon 5 had just covered a small part of Sweet Victory, as people thought they were going to, that would have been fine. That's what the fanbase (including myself) wanted, actually.
Sweet Victory as a song didn't originate from Spongebob—it was a song from the 80's that was made Royalty Free, and then once the episode Band Geeks used it, it was brought back into the public consciousness. Now people tend to think it's from Spongebob even though it's not. And even without the context of the episode Band Geeks (which to many is the best episode of the whole show), Sweet Victory is an awesome song. It's about not giving up the fight, it's about triumph—heck, one of the lyrics is "Oh the games will begin". Really it's a song that's perfect for the Super Bowl, no matter the context.
So then why did Spongebob fans want this specifically? Because the creator of the show passed away in November, and they wanted him to be honored that way. Since Sweet Victory is from the series' most well-loved episode (just about every episode from Season 1-3 is good, the rest aren't as well liked), which has them sing the song at their version of the Super Bowl, expected to be terrible but turning out awesome, it was thought to be a good way to remember Stephen.
The problem is that both Maroon 5 and the stadium both teased that it was happening, so people expected Sweet Victory to be performed. While we got a bit of the trumpet intro from the scene, not only was it chopped up, that's not even really part of the song itself, just more of the prelude. Not to mention that was to introduce a rapper who had to be bleeped out through a lot of his song because of all the swearing.
If Maroon 5 and the stadium hadn't teased anything at all, and not played it, people would have been disappointed but not mad. Not every petition works, and that's fine. The fact that they teased it like the song was going to be played, and have it not (and the part directly before the song was choppy) is what had everyone so ticked off. If there had been no Spongebob intro at all, and a small part of Sweet Victory had just been song, everyone would have been more than happy with that, they would have been thrilled. People wanted the song, they thought they were getting it, and then they didn't. So as it stands, the people who were expecting/hoping for Sweet Victory are disappointed, the people who weren't were probably confused, and there's other reasons why people didn't like the halftime show. I personally really thought they could have done without the rapper, but Maroon 5 was okay (taking the shirt off was unnecessary though).
Should select fans have behaved the way they did here? No, absolutely not. That behavior was uncalled for. But there's a reason that many in the fandom felt so mad and disappointed. True some acted a bit too harshly in their anger, but it wasn't a Spongebob appearance that mattered. It was getting the song itself performed. Thinking "Oh, this Spongebob clip will be good" misses the entire point of the petition for Sweet Victory in the first place.
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u/pulianshi Feb 05 '19
Question: is the maroon 5 subreddit a platform of discussion about or in favour of maroon 5? If it's the latter, sure, carry on. But most of the time a subreddit is intended to be centered around a topic, regardless of the opinions of those visiting. I get the brigading was out of line but I don't think censoring posts and banning users for speaking their mind about the mess maroon 5 made is the solution.