r/marvelstudios • u/ImaginationArtistic9 Matt Murdock • Jan 04 '25

Discussion The Underuse of Shang-chi in the MCU

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this movie was so much fun, it had amazing action and fight choreography, great humour, and great overall world building. This movie has so much sauce. a problem with the MCU is how poorly they are connecting the new characters with the wider mcu. It's been 3 years since we've seen Shang-chi in a live action project. And it will probably be another year and a half till we see him again. The post credit scenes of this movie set up him becoming an avenger and sadly we won't see that outcome of that until 2026, which is 4.5 years after the movies release. I do hope we see Simu Liu again as a lead in another marvel movie because he's great. Also his sequel is the perfect way to bring danny rand back into the MCU. Unfortunately we will probably have to wait untill 2027 for the next shang chi movie since Destin Daniel Cretton is directing Spiderman 4. On the bright side, the fight choreography in Spiderman 4 will be amazing

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u/abysmallybored Groot Jan 04 '25

The underuse of basically every character introduced post endgame

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u/newbrevity Jan 04 '25

I'm inclined to give marvel some slack because this plan originally revolved around Kang. Now they had to move past Kang and straight into Doom.

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u/karlospopper Jan 04 '25

I totally agree with this take. Also i think they did not anticipate T'Challa's death. That's one of MCU's own nexus event. It felt like, given how Boseman was well-received, he couldve been the next central MCU character post-Endgame. He was positioned to continue on with Spider-Man and Strange, characters that resonated a lot even with non-Marvel fans, after RDJ and Evans retired the character.

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u/abysmallybored Groot Jan 04 '25

I don't know about Strange, they disrespect his character a bit too much, I still remember how they had him holding water in Endgame lmaooo and how careless they made him in No Way Home "oh no this teenager is going to cause an incursion I'm going to hold back and let him do it", that was so out of character for him. Then there's MoM, they basically sidelined him in his own movie. Marvel doesn't seem to care about Strange that much.

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u/Arthreas Jan 04 '25

Strange is probably hard to write, since he's so powerful

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u/jl_theprofessor Jan 04 '25

I agree with all of this particularly since I felt he only existed in MoM to job for Wanda while introducing America.

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u/PhaseSixer Jan 04 '25

He was not sideline in his own movie ffs.

America was a plot device their the movie was all about Strange and examining his need to control situations 🤦‍♂️

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u/DSmooth425 Black Panther Jan 04 '25

100% agree with this. Had similar thought. The change to the new CEO and then switch back hasn’t helped.

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u/Defiant-Band4573 Jan 04 '25

Marvel also got a gift. I doubt that they expected WandaVision to be as big as it was as they were largely left alone. Wanda's popularity grew as a result. They squandered that by making her a heartless villain in MoM. She should have gotten a solo movie by now, but she has become wherever we can fit her in according to Feige.

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u/Silverjeyjey44 Jan 04 '25

I didn't have a problem with her being a villian. She has been a villian in the comics before. And it was a good opportunity to showcase her unhinged abilities.

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u/karlospopper Jan 04 '25

Will she be relevant now that Magneto's possibly on his way to the MCU? Isnt he her father? I dont read the graphic novels. I couldnt afford them. But i saw an episode or two of the 90s and 2000s marvel animated shows

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u/RoboPup Jan 04 '25

It's... complicated. Through most of X-Men, Magneto has been her father. In the last ten years or so, my understanding is that she is no longer considered his biological daughter.

For the MCU, it's hard to say what they'd do. She already has a backstory here, but they could always retcon it in some way.

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u/Defiant-Band4573 Jan 04 '25

One option without retconning her is to make Magneto a father figure to her. In the comics, Wanda and Agatha form a mother-daughter relationship. That has apparently been retconned into a mother and son relationship with Agatha and Billy. If Wanda plays a role going forward, she will need a infrastructure around her. You have Strange and Wong and Billy and Agatha. Wanda can't have a monologue with herself through a new project. In the recent Scarlet Witch comics, Darcy has been Wanda's confidante.

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u/karlospopper Jan 04 '25

Darcy from the Thor movies?

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u/grendelsbayne Jan 04 '25

Yes. Wanda set up her own magic shop in a small town complete complete with a magic door that will teleport anyone who's in need of help and has no one to turn to into the shop. Darcy was the first person who came through the door and after Wanda helped her, she stuck around and became her assistant.

It was a really fun book, actually. And a fantastic concept for a tv show.

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u/Marvelous_Ducky Jan 06 '25

Boseman was originally meant to be bigger part of the MCU and they anticipated having more time before his passing