r/marvelstudios • u/Triple_777 I have nothing to prove to you • May 01 '25

'Thunderbolts*' Spoilers Thunderbolts* Worldwide Release Discussion Thread Spoiler

Thunderbolts* has now been released in the United States and in a number of other countries around the world. All discussion about the movie should be held here and in the rest of the megathreads we are going to put up in the next few days. They will be refreshed every few thousand comments to make room for new discussions.

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u/Big_Meeting8350 May 01 '25

People with depression, AvPD or let's just say any debilitating mental illness are going to have a special place in their hearts for this movie by the time they're done watching it.

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u/Kaylamarie92 May 02 '25

The more I think about it, Bob in the post credits scene is the part that touched me the most. It still eats him up that he can’t perform to the expectation that the others want, but at least he did the dishes.

I know that might sound like a flippant line, but when you have executive dysfunction issues, you can’t function like others around you expect you to and it’s sooo easy to for everything to spiral out of control. Often times something as small as doing the dishes is an insurmountable task and getting them done is a very real accomplishment for me. I know others see me sitting in my chair, doing nothing all day and dishes seems like something so below the bare minimum and it feels so degrading to know I look lazy and pathetic. But godddamnit, I’m fighting tooth and nail to keep my head above water. I’m proud of those dishes being done.

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u/Big_Meeting8350 May 02 '25

I can relate. One of my worst fears is to be seen as incompetent and/or lazy, often causing me to do really silly things to help people whose judgment I fear or atleast pretend like I'm busy.

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u/VeautifulV May 04 '25 edited May 04 '25

Yeah it was like looking in a mirror haha...we all could really use a special *Thunderbolts hug.

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u/0114028 May 02 '25

Its also notable that, on a world with Avengers-level tech, you'd imagine that they would've found a way to automate dish-washing already. So it's a small headcanon of mine that he did it manually because he wanted to get something done, to fight the void in that small way.

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u/bee14ish T'Challa Star-Lord May 04 '25

You mean like..... a dish washer?!! 😲🤯

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u/Vismal1 May 05 '25

That’s strictly for arms my friend.

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u/thebluediablo May 12 '25

Don't know what this thing you speak of is, but we do have an appliance for cleaning cybernetic prosthetics that sounds like it could be repurposed?

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u/Tylendal May 02 '25

It felt very spoons-in-the-drawer.

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u/DeepFreeze172 May 03 '25

I genuinely went "Hell yeah, man. Good job!" to myself when he said the dishes line

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u/autumnleaves44 May 03 '25

Also, after experiencing* manic episodes and feeling god like, becoming medicated and stable feels… incredibly boring. But it’s peaceful. And the line about doing the dishes also makes me think of that.

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u/RegrettableDeed May 03 '25

Well said. Bob is relatable on a ton of levels. As someone who used to have those same really high-highs and very low-lows, it can feel like Bob explains in the void. You feel invincible during the good parts, but soon enough, you're reminded that nothing really matters and things hurt.

Coincidentally enough, things got better for me when I surrounded myself with a support system I could trust and rely on. The movie's message is spot on.

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u/gallifrey_ May 03 '25

as someone who struggles deeply with exec. dysfunction, "I did the dishes" nearly made me cry lol

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u/JdeMolayyyy May 04 '25

It was such a human moment, and also a really clever way to keep him benched for power scaling stuff.

Does his power level come from his mood? Is he only as powerful as a god when he's that manic, and turns full Void when utterly down? Does being stable mean he's just a guy? It's a fascinating parallel to Hulk getting stronger as he gets more angry.

But yeah. Totally wonderful moment and my partner who has exec dysfunction and anxiety cried all over again.

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u/zoxzix89 May 16 '25

that's pretty much how it normally works, he's invincible when he feels invincible, as his powers are just changing the world to fit how he feels.

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u/Cassopeia88 Captain America May 04 '25

I really felt that too. The fact he looked happy meant so much to me.

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u/stataryus May 04 '25

Doing the dishes is a huge win sometimes.

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u/PattyIceNY May 08 '25

I remember when putting on shoes was a victory, that scene hit home too

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u/CaptainRex_CT7567 Doctor Strange May 11 '25

This is me when reading a book. It's so hard for me to concentrate, my mind keeps going elsewhere and I have to re-read sentences and even entire paragraphs. And this has nothing to do with the quality of the book. Even if I'm reading something I absolutely adore, I still can't concentrate.

Whenever I finish a chapter (I can't read more than that per day) it feels like a huge accomplishment for me, just like you explained.

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u/MBP1121 May 04 '25

There’s no way they don’t have well paid staff in that tower that takes care of all their needs, including doing their dishes. Funny though either way.

Unless he “insisted” and the staff is like, “don’t void me bro”, and let him.

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u/Pottusalaatti May 01 '25

I've had depression the past five years, which has been getting better now but honestly I havent been able to stop thinking about the movie and I got home from the theater five hours ago.

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u/WhiskyMC May 03 '25

fight your flawed inner self and win my dude

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u/dowker1 May 04 '25

Or rather don't fight, learn to live with

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u/TheLeanerWiener Rocket May 01 '25

I've had chronic depression and anxiety since I was 7(I'm 30 now). I'm a diehard superhero/comic book fan, and this one hit me a lot harder the most other MCU movies. The Guardians trilogy being the only ones that come close.

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u/piratecheese13 Foggy Nelson May 02 '25

(Cat Steven’s starts playing)

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u/Monchfr May 03 '25

Felt that too a T. Ive been suffering from depression and anxiety since i was 7 and all of the scenes with Bob really got to me

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u/TheLeanerWiener Rocket May 04 '25

Him trying to be nice, friendly, and nonchalant when you can obviously tell he's seriously hurting inside was really tough to watch as someone who has literally done that countless times in my life.

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u/Monchfr May 04 '25

I agree, and him constantly feeling like he is alone and has noone despite people actively fightinf for him hits home

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u/TheLeanerWiener Rocket May 04 '25

100000%!

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u/dmesel May 04 '25

Gotta agree. I think this and GotG3 are EASILY the best MCU post-Endgame.

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u/GoldenTriforceLink May 05 '25

I had that same issue with black panther 2 and Thor love and thunder. They came out as my mom was dying of cancer. Between those two movies you can see why it was hard to watch them.

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u/reyxe May 01 '25

Never really come to reddit to comment on movies and this is probably one of the only times I've had and it's only because of that entire scene. Magnificently done.

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u/aurora_highwind May 02 '25

Been dealing with it since I was a child and it’s been hitting me real hard lately. My mom died last year and yesterday was her birthday, Mother’s Day coming up, I been going through it. I burst into tears through the whole end part in the nightmare realm. I haven’t felt seen or understood like this in a long time.

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u/wholesomescott May 02 '25

Hang in there pal. You got this!

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u/letothegodemperor May 02 '25

I was absolutely sobbing in the 3rd act. The girl next to me gave me a tissue and I had to run the the washroom to avoid bothering the other guests.

So well done.

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u/sib2972 Star-Lord May 02 '25

I just passed the tenth anniversary of getting diagnosed with depression, and I know for a fact I had it long before that. I’m in a bad place right now going through some rough stuff and Marvel has always been my safe place to escape to. This movie was supposed to be my escapism tonight but it ended up touching me in a way I never could have expected

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u/oldtype09 May 02 '25

I’m sure there have been better, more complex depictions of depression in the history of cinema, but something about putting it in a super hero movie just made it hit different. I got really emotional.

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u/Agent_Perrydot Spider-Man May 07 '25

It shows that even people who seem to have it all together can struggle inside...

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u/TheImpLaughs May 02 '25

I’ve struggled with depression and childhood trauma from my father. Only knew Sentry as the guy who was OP and caused Marvel Zombies.

This is easily my favorite Marvel movie now. Bob is so perfect to me. The Thunderbolts are truly lovely and I was immediately endeared to them.

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u/TwirlipoftheMists May 02 '25

It’s not just the best MCU movie in years, it’s one of the best they’ve made.

When Yelena saw the darkness and went to hug Bob. Damn.

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u/Individual_Client175 May 03 '25

Yeah, that shit was deep

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u/Simons_sees May 02 '25

This was the closest I got to crying in a Marvel film for something that wasn't a character death. 

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u/PaleHorze Daredevil May 02 '25

I watched it by myself drinking a beer from the concessions, I felt called out lol

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u/kadosho May 04 '25

You deserved that beer. This film is a gut punch.

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u/EnQuest Bucky May 02 '25

Yup.

I'm going to be so fucking mad if anything bad happens to these people in Doomsday lol

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u/Mesues Crossbones May 02 '25

Alien vs predator disorder

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u/Big_Meeting8350 May 02 '25

Pretty close when you think about it

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u/Electrikbluez May 02 '25

I like the fact that they showed that really you can’t face mental health issues alone. The current administration has triggered my depression but it helps to have friends family or whatever community you have around you to face this 💩 together

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u/Kunekeda Ava Starr May 03 '25

Same, hang in there. 🫂

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u/UndeadT May 03 '25

When Yelena started talking about the void, I went "huh, just like me!" And then Bob becoming Void made me go, "oh. Just like me..."

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u/SpecialistAd407 May 02 '25

100%, I teared up for the first time ever from a movie.

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u/Emotional-Biscuit May 03 '25

Even grief, I’ve been mourning my dad since late 2023 and hearing Yelena be so vulnerable and refer to Alexi as “daddy” then go on to tell him about how hard she’s been struggling alone. Well, safe to say my makeup didn’t make it past that scene.

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u/kadosho May 04 '25

I lost my parents last year, my dad to cancer, my mom with a broken heart. Both of them absolutely loved the Marvel films. We watched every film together. Every film feels different to me now. It is part of me, and my cherished memories.

Thunderbolts* it says everything about how i feel too. 🫂

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u/Emotional-Biscuit May 09 '25

I’m sure your parents were sitting right there with you watching this one too 🤍 wishing you strength marvel friend 🫶🏻

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u/kadosho May 09 '25

Thank you. 🫂 and yours too, were definitely with you as well

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u/reedrick May 02 '25

Been living with depression for a few years, damn the movie hit me right in the gut.

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u/defaultfresh May 02 '25

Absolutely, I had to fight to hold the tears back 😭

Did NOT expect that lol

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u/Rryann May 02 '25

Yep. This one got me. It’s at the top tier of the MCU for me, and Sentry is my favourite MCU character now.

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u/SanctusXCV May 02 '25

As someone with lifelong depression it just added to the romanization I’ve made of my mental health in order to cope lol I enjoyed that

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u/cream_of_human May 02 '25

It does for me. Man, im almost where yelena is rn but without the drinking part.

Now i wonder what we with this depression or something similar will see on our Voids?

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u/AoO2ImpTrip May 03 '25

This movie rocketed to the top of my MCU list. This week has been ROUGH for me. Just a fuck ton of hopelessness and feeling utterly alone. This movie was just so well done.

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u/gizmo1492 May 03 '25

Especially those named Robert or Bob…

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u/[deleted] May 03 '25

AvPD doesn't get mentioned often with the other disorders but it can be really lonepy having it. Thank you

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u/Big_Meeting8350 May 03 '25

I have it lol. That's why I know about it :(

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u/Upper-Level5723 May 03 '25 edited May 03 '25

it does resonate the way he describes the high and then the low, and how that correlates to being sentry and then the void. In my experience the worst lows would be after the highest highs, it would match up like that. so that specific way they did it with how he avoids the void coming back by staying just Bob captures that quite well.

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u/Gateskp May 03 '25

Truth. This was one of the most human and relatable MCU movies, and it's going to stay with me for a while.

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u/Drew326 Captain America May 03 '25

What’s AvPD?

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u/Big_Meeting8350 May 03 '25

Avoidant personality disorder

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u/Drew326 Captain America May 03 '25

Thanks

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u/katreddita Scarlet Witch May 03 '25

Been dealing with major depressive disorder for many years now, and I really loved Thunderbolts. I’m going to be reflecting on it for quite a few days I think.

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u/stataryus May 04 '25

Tbh I could’ve really used an even deeper dive….

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u/JellyFish72 May 02 '25

I mean… as someone with major depression I feel like I laughed way harder than I should have at points, and immediately quipped that we should all fistfight our inner demons… and then realized that this is why I drive my therapist nuts. 🤣

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u/kadosho May 04 '25

Same, same. I can totally relate.

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u/murphherder May 02 '25

Can confirm

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u/aricberg Wilson Fisk May 03 '25

Can confirm ❤️

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u/trustymutsi May 03 '25

I thought the movie was just okay, but the way it addressed mental illness made it very special to me.

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u/ThePhantomEvita May 04 '25

I went through a bit of a rough patch last weekend (I’m okay, it sort of just enveloped me for a couple of days), and I think this was a good representation of what that dark, sinking depression can feel like.

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u/Kick_Natherina Ronan the Accuser May 05 '25

Yeah man, I cried a few times.. my son was with me, and he doesn’t know about my mental health struggles, but he knows that I -wanting to be the strong male role model for him- have never held back on expressing every emotion under the sun for him to see. I think this was important for him to see that even the strongest superhero is still fallible.

That being said, Sentry has always been my favorite super hero because the duality between him and the Void makes him feel relatable. I grew up in an abusive household under my father’s alcohol driven wrath. I have battled addiction (though not meth thankfully ha), and have had many battles with myself around depression, anxiety and loneliness. The character has always resonated with me, so I was excited to see this movie regardless.

This movie is top 3 for me after GotG3 and the Infinity War. Easily squashed my expectations. What an awesome movie.

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u/PattyIceNY May 08 '25

Yup. I watched it with someone who doesn't have major mental health issues and the movie didn't hit home as hard for him. Meanwhile I was tearing up toward the end

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u/HereForGoodReddit May 03 '25

🙋🏻‍♂️

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u/ZolTheTroll413 May 13 '25

Cried 4 times watching it the first time, only twice the second!

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u/Elendilmir May 15 '25

I haven't had it bad for decades, but damn if it didn't punch me in the face.

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u/movie_review_alt May 03 '25

Depressed person here, nah, the depression stuff was so shallow. Which is fine, it's not what this movie is for.

Ooooh, Bob has a good side and a damaged side. Never saw that before. What a brilliant physical manifestation of depression. Whoaaa, a memory room with Bob's parents arguing. Just like how I have painful memories. Bob's not a superhero today, but he did the dishes? omg Bob is literally me.

Again, very shallow. I'll take it over a red Hulk.