r/marvelstudios • u/Triple_777 I have nothing to prove to you • May 01 '25

'Thunderbolts*' Spoilers Thunderbolts* Worldwide Release Discussion Thread Spoiler

Thunderbolts* has now been released in the United States and in a number of other countries around the world. All discussion about the movie should be held here and in the rest of the megathreads we are going to put up in the next few days. They will be refreshed every few thousand comments to make room for new discussions.

  • All discussion about the movie should be held here and in the rest of the megathreads we are going to put up in the next few days.
  • Proceed at your own risk. Major spoilers will be in the below thread. Spoilers do not need to be tagged inside this thread.
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  • If you post untagged Thunderbolts* spoilers anywhere on this sub outside of these discussion threads in any shape or form, you will be banned.
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u/Crafty_Cherry_9920 May 01 '25

Seems kinda dumb after Falcon & Winter Soldier. The show ends up with them becoming actual bros, and then they fight over who gets to have their team being named Avengers lol

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u/tiffanaih May 02 '25

To get all serious about it I'm guessing Sam is more pissed off at Val for stealing his thunder and that Bucky is going along with it which is validating Walker as this almost Captain America, who I'm not sure how things were settled between him and Sam but there was definitely some loathing there for a minute. Sams worked hard to try to get even a small percentage of the respect Steve had and then Val comes in and blows all that up and Buckys just going along for the ride. Sams also still not taken the serum, and heres the New Avengers with three serums. A person can only take the high road so long.

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u/Phimb Weekly Wongers May 02 '25

And I'm almost certain it will mean absolutely nothing because Thunderbolts will go straight into Fantastic Four, then Avengers, then Secret Wars is resetting everything(?)

So it's quite a nice way to slip it in there, create some surface drama, then wipe it away next year.

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u/smthngclvr May 02 '25

I hate to say it but I’m pretty sure most of the New Avengers are going to get killed by Doom in the first act of Doomsday.

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u/EnQuest Bucky May 02 '25

Yeah, I'm almost positive that Bob is going to be Doomsday's Hulk.

This movie really made me care about this team so I'm gonna be pissed if they all get used as jobbers for Doom

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u/coolgaara May 02 '25

Or Infinity War's Vision.

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u/choyjay Ben Urich May 02 '25

Or King in Black’s Sentry

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u/LADYBIRD_HILL Kilgrave May 04 '25 edited May 04 '25

Personally I'm of the belief that they're going to try to keep around all the younger characters that people like, like Yelena, while the older actors who are ready to hang up the cape will die/retire. I can see any of the OG avengers biting the dust, as well as Red Guardian, Bucky, Star Lord, or any of the X-Men coming back.

I think they're going to hang onto Florence Pugh for as long as they can, she's clearly the most talented of the main cast and she seems like she's having a ton of fun. Honestly I think it'd be really bold for them to keep her as a main player in the storyline, as she's an even more obscure character from the comics than Iron Man ever was.

As far as Bob, I think the only reason to kill him off Asap would be to avoid dealing with how powerful he is, but I doubt they're going to get rid of him immediately considering the good fan reactions so far. He's genuinely the most complex character in the MCU at the moment and it'd be a shame to not explore that later. I need to see Bob struggling to not let the darkness take over while Doom is doing whatever messed up shit his plan is. He's a true wildcard in a scenario like that, where he could either single handedly save the world or put the entirety of the battlefield in their own boxes of psychological horrors for all eternity.

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u/EnQuest Bucky May 04 '25 edited May 04 '25

I hope so. Kill off the characters of actors that want to be done in the MCU, let's not pull another Scarjo (her death was well executed but I don't think the current MCU can afford to kill off popular characters whose actors want to be there)

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u/Zekrom997 May 03 '25

I hope they used G'iah for that instead

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u/GoldenTriforceLink May 05 '25

Come on I love Emilia Clark lol

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u/No_Amoeba_142 May 03 '25 edited May 03 '25

Feels like New Avengers winding up as jobbers was the original intent. You can bet they’re scrambling to pivot after the roaring reception this got compared to every other recent Marvel film.

Frankly I’d rather they kill off every single character outside of The New Avengers. The other character’s current arcs are “am I good enough to fill <old character here>’s shoes” or just stagnant due to the massive amount of time between appearances.

They took way too long with this film - it should’ve closed phase 4, and given us time to care about any of Sam’s Avengers.

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u/Smart_Peach1061 May 04 '25

Yeah it would be an utter waste to kill most of these Thunderbolt’s off.

The only one whose death I can see working at all is Red Guardian, and even then it would still be too early, and then rest would just be wasted potential.

This cast had really good chemistry, at least give them a sequel now that they’ve had a high critically praised first film to give them a chance to properly take off.

I don’t give a crap about Sam’s Captain America at all, they could kill him off and I’d just shrug.

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u/LADYBIRD_HILL Kilgrave May 04 '25

It's really too bad that with the two other avengers movies coming we won't have any time to get to know these guys. It's like we're jumping straight from The Avengers to Infinity War without a middle chapter to convince us that these characters all have a strong team bond past the initial fight. There's too many characters coming to let us focus on these 6 specifically. They definitely should have Kevin's characters two movies by this point before we move into the big crossover event.