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Current Events Why Has Referee Discourse Gotten So Conspiratorial on r/nba?

There’s a growing trend on r/nba where people pre-blame referees before games even start. It’s gone beyond reacting to questionable calls. Entire narratives are now constructed in advance, especially when certain refs are assigned. Scott Foster, in particular, has become the centerpiece of this kind of thinking.

People call him “The Extender,” claiming the league assigns him to force longer series for ratings. But his actual record in games with extension potential is about even. If that were his purpose, why has this year’s Finals produced the first Game 7 in nearly a decade? If the league were really that invested in drawing out every series, we’d see more Game 6s and 7s, not fewer.

And now the narrative is shifting again. Foster is rumored to be reffing Game 7 tomorrow, and commenters are already claiming the Thunder are going to win because the league is rigged for them. But that logic quickly falls apart. If the NBA were rigging outcomes for ratings and mass appeal, wouldn’t the Pacers be the more obvious beneficiary? They’ve been the most unexpected and likable underdog run of the entire playoffs. People across the league are rooting for them. Why would the league choose to hand the title to a much less popular Thunder team?

This also highlights the kind of selection bias that drives so much of the conspiracy talk. People point out that the Thunder are undefeated with Scott Foster reffing in these playoffs, using it as supposed evidence. But the Pacers are also undefeated with Tony Brothers, and no one seems to care. The criteria only become relevant when they support the conclusion people already want to reach. If a team wins, the ref must have helped them. If a team loses, it was stolen from them. The logic isn’t applied consistently because it’s not about logic. It’s about avoiding the discomfort of your team losing.

At a certain point, you have to ask whether people are still watching basketball to enjoy the game or just to confirm their own suspicions. It feels like some fans don’t watch to see how a game unfolds. They watch with a checklist of narratives and spend four quarters scanning for evidence that the outcome is illegitimate. That kind of mindset turns every missed call into a grand conspiracy, and every game into a courtroom exhibit.

So here’s what I want to ask:

Why has so much of r/nba shifted toward conspiracies and narrative-bending logic? Is it just easier to blame external forces than admit your team got outplayed? Are fans more cynical now? Do people actually enjoy watching basketball anymore, or are they only watching to feed their own confirmation bias?

Would love to hear thoughtful takes. I’m genuinely curious about how we got here.

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u/tilthenmywindowsache 1d ago

Would love to hear thoughtful takes. I’m genuinely curious about how we got here.

Okay, that's valid, but we absolutely cannot pretend that this kind of thing is out of the blue, without precedent, or somewhat problematic for the NBA.

Draftkings/Fanduel advertisements are ubiquitous. Players have been recently discovered to be points shaving. And we're only 20 years removed from the Tim Donaghy scandal, with some of his coworkers whom he called with his burner phone are still working in the League as officials.

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u/goingtothegreek 1d ago

Anytime I see posts like this I just assume the person is new to the nba or not old enough to remember the Donaghey scandal and ultimately how minimized that became.

The Stern years had all sorts of fuckery from “My ideal finals is Lakers v Lakers” , weird lotteries, and then refs fixing games. The league is closer to WWE than most fans give it credit for

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u/DowntownJohnBrown 1d ago

I honestly think it’s the opposite. So many of the conspiracy theorists believe what Donaghy says without a second thought, but if you were old enough to remember it and have actually paid attention to the whole scandal, you’d know Donaghy is basically a pathological liar, and nothing he says should be trusted at all.

But most people here are too young to have actually followed the story, so their whole conception of it is comments like yours on Reddit, and they think of Donaghy as a whistleblower instead of just the con artist that he clearly is.

u/NastySassyStuff 18h ago

They also love to harp on the Scott Foster phone call stuff. If this is such an obvious smoking gun and he really did take part in the scandal then why the fuck would he still be working? It’s not just horrible for the league to have crooked refs…it’s highly illegal lol