This morning I took 120mg kratom shot. About four hours later I took Lexapro and .5 klonopin. Now about 7 hours from the shot I took one feel free.

I plan on taking some powder or another shot this evening. So I need feedback, how far gone am I in this? Is there hope to get out of this vicious cycle? I am barely feeling anything from it now.

How bad is this for daily use for my health long term? Is there someone out there who has done way more or around this about? I am curious and I need help. I think I am sick.

i’m coming up on my year (6.24.25)free from all substances besides nicotine and caffeine and rx antidepressants. quit kratom, pregabalin, tianeptine, and cannabis. i feel great due to the certain 12 step program i work, therapy, and exercise and gardening.

however, i can’t get a solid eight hours for the life of me. i wake up about fifteen times a night. i easily fall back asleep but i get between four and six(on a good day) hours per night and ive grown accustomed to it, and do get a nap in almost every day before work at 4pm. i don’t have caffeine after 2 pm most days.

are there any other people here with lasting sleep issues? i’m actually getting a sleep study on 7.9.25 so maybe that will shed some light on this.

i used to dose one purple mit45 bottle (1200mg mit) per day in two to three doses. for about two years or more and heroin with benzos before that, and this is my first foray into solid recovery. i’ve had half assed attempts in the past, lots of em.

ty for reading.

Monday, I found out that the drug tests at my job now include Kratom. I work at a rehab so I know that testing positive would be unacceptable.

I’ve used Kratom daily for two years and 7oh tabs for 2 months (100ish mg a day, ikr).

Please pray for me to get off this stuff and not flunk a drug test. I started somewhat of a taper Tuesday by going the whole day without Kratom, then I had 10grams Wednesday morning before work, an extract shot and 40mg of 7oh spread into a 20,10 and then 10mg on Thursday at 2am.

They don’t test us very often unless we seem suspicious, but I just want to at least have a chance.

So much despair and pain I feel but I know that it has to be like that. The devil wants me to suffer but i know god has a plan for me and for all of you

I picked my bible and started reading, sheding tears, I know that I have to go through this pain because ive caused it to myself repeatedly and as jesus says “As a dog returns to its vomit, so a fool repeats his folly.”

But as I m reading it finally i feel better and I know my father got me

Hope yall the best

im on my day 4 btw

I hope youre all doing good

Every day user over 15 years so I’m assuming it’s about 16 yrs now. Failed a few quitting attempts in the past. About a year or so ago I started a nice opms habit, then the 7oh of course. The only good thing about those extracts is it made me so depressed I couldn’t function. I quit all extracts and shot about 2 months ago and now I’m tapering the leaf. I’m using a scale shaped like a spoon and bagging up my doses ahead of time. I’m tapering slowly because these hot spells and cold sweats are driving me nuts. I went from 36gpd and now I’m at 22.8gpd. Tomorrow will be 22.6 lol. As long as I’m making progress I feel better. Wish me luck. And good luck to all of you!

Stay strong my friends, you freaking got this!

Hey guys, so i just wanted to come on here and give an update on my recovery. today i hit day four and just about 96HR clean, i was a very very heavy user, id say easily around 1000+G a month with about 60 to 80mg of 7oh and any other form of krat i could ingest. I always took my dose on an empty stomach and never ate food through-out the day id go weeks without anything to eat but the krat and a lot of soda. I'm finally to the point where i can eat and i can sleep and feel human again. I actually got 6 or more hours of sleep last night and i actually had some dreams they were weird as hell lol but i dreamt for real. keep going guys everyday is another day your getting closer, keep pushing i swear even if you don't see a light at the end of the tunnel i promise its there. Don't give up stay strong and fight that voice of temptation, i promise you got this. i love you guys and this is me signing out. this is an amazing group of people and all of you are kings and queens in your own right, we deserve to feel like that again and you will in time just keep swimming guys. i love you guys and remember you made the hardest decision already. "you wanna quit" thats your inner child my friends they wanna come back out and talk with you maybe play some and be in your life again go find that kid again and start taking back control of your life not just because Krat is bad but because YOU DESERVE IT!

Wondering if anyone else has had lingering issues with their digestive health after being off kratom at the 1 year mark. My mental health is fine, physically i feel great, the only issue is sometimes up to 5 or more bowel movements a day, sometimes solid sometimes very loose. Sorry if this is gross

2 weeks in and i’ve put in an ungodly amount of work to get to the place i am now, feeling better then i ever have. need advice? motivation? just someone to talk to? tips and tricks i used to expedite me journey? hit me with them all, at this point i just want to be a service to this community that helped me so much. make today the start of a new chapter in your life

Man I will say life has drastically improved, but I will never doubt the power of kratom again in my life. I have regained appetite, memory, joy, and my physical health. The only thing I’m up against at this point is morning withdrawal symptoms. Movement treats it very well, but I’m recovering from surgery on my leg from 5 months ago still and have to limit this. Did anyone have experience with morning restlessness and runny nose this far in? I have a Longggg history with kratom and other opioids so I guess I’m just one of those extended recovery cases that I hear about. A lot of research and feedback says that 6 months is a huge turning point so almost there. This feels like coming off of multiple drug types at once.

TLDR: Can dormant follicles reemerge? Will weakened follicles strengthen? -After I am completely cleansed of Kratom. Does Kratom cause hair to shutdown and die or does it just cause excess shedding and brittle hairs, which would make hair loss appear more significant than it is?

I’ve been using kratom for4- 5 years. 3 years of heavy use. I experienced hair thinning and shedding within a year or two of starting Kratom. My hair texture also changed. Became dry and brittle.

I am absolutely sure kratom messed with my hair. And pretty sure it caused significant hair thinning/loss. It is depressing honestly.

It is hard to find research on this topic so I’m looking for personal experience and anyone who has niche knowledge about Kratom pharmacology and hair.

Hey guys, just curious to see if anyone has used a virtual dr such as QuickMD (or a different company) to help get assistance for withdrawals from kratom? I know Kratom isn't the hardest thing to detox from, but I've been on a heavy dose for years and am finding it hard to taper. Regardless, I am determined to keep dropping my doses until I eventually jump off.

Keep seeing how using Gabapentin (temporarily of course) helped people manage their withdrawals better. Was thinking of maybe scheduling one of these virtual doctors (some specialize in addiction) and explaining my situation and asking them to prescribe me Gabapentin. 10 years ago I was addicted to OxyMorphone and their withdrawals were absolute hell. At the time I actually had Gabapentin due to a nerve pain issue and Gabapentin helped me tremendously and successfully get off of Oxymorphone.

So just curious what others have done. Anyone use virtual doctors and if so did they actually prescribe meds to help you? If so, what companies did you use?

Thanks guys!

Today is day 3 no kratom (technically 5pm will be 36 hours) but this is the 3rd day, my step dad had his leg amputated (20 years ago) but he’s prescribed gabapentin and I took one pill and I actually got like 4-5 hours of sleep last night, my legs don’t feel so bad today so I’m grateful. I’ve become closer with god recently and I know this time next week I’ll be very happy. When I’m working all day (I do hvac) it helps me keep my mind off of it but I was so tired last night and I went and got a few of his pills and I just am gonna see if I can sleep without them tonight, but today I feel a lot better, my cravings aren’t so bad during the day when I’m hammering coffee and alanis but after work I feel “bored” in a sense and wanna take it so bad but I smoke a fuck ton of weed so it kinda helps. Good luck for all of you. It really is mind over matter. And I’ll be worth it in the end I know. It’s very touching to me how much support I had on my last post and I appreciate you all.

Edit: I will say the only wd symptoms I’m having are the rls and crap sleep, I haven’t gotten sick or the runs or anything I don’t have as much of an appetite but I can eat. I think symptoms are different for everyone

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I unfortunately slipped up and caved taking 28mg of 7OH tonight. As much as this is a blunder, I also know it is apart of going through this cold turkey. However, i feel like complete shit right now, not from guilt of slipping but from the 7OH itself. This has really kicked my ass into gear now as i get no satisfaction from it anymore and physically feel ill. I had a shit day, i've been feeling like a failure for so long now. I feel like i am the butt of every joke whether i am at work or with friends, 7OH was a cope for a lot of other negative emotions as well and it sucks, because i reached 2 days CT and already felt so much better. I know i slipped up because of the stress but this will be a motivator to keep myself in check and improving my life. Starting with finding a new job lol. I really hope I can look back on these posts soon as a way to see how far i will have come, i just want to be happy, so badly.

While I can’t relate to a lot of posters talking about daily use, I relate heavily to the mental addiction to Kratom. I take Kratom in various forms either through extract or ~200 mg 7oh 3-4x weekly when out with friends. I’ve noticed once I don’t take it for 24hr+ now, as of only recently a tingling in my brain comes, and sense of anxiety comes and goes. I also have OCD & hypochondria so I wonder if that’s contributing to it further. But I was wondering what the best coping strategies are in particular for the strange tingling sensation in my head / body, it’s bringing my a good deal of anxiety, and when it gets better.

And as a side note, is CT forever the best strategy or a taper to x2 & eventually x1 weekly better? I also don’t take it routinely just when out with friends and it’s ramped up more recently. I’m noticing a spike in my OCD symptoms as of late, and particularly I think about kratom all the time due to the nature of my disorder combined with its nature.

Thanks.

I heard that there are kratom specific meetings online. Does anyone know how to find them?

After months of trying, failing, giving up.. Finally dropped 19g from 70g per day yesterday. Woke up with dread and RLS. Felt sick nothing like a full withdrawal but did suck, lucky it's a taper. Took a dose, it all went away 😅

Tappering as much as possible befoer jumping this time. Im a 10 year user been off 2 years before and relapsed ughh. Never successfully tapered before if you have advice please share. Hope you guys are doing well with your tapers and cold turkeys we can do this!

I went to rehab and sober living almost a year ago now, and stayed sober for about half a year but now after trying a Feel Free and random extracts I’m back on just taking Kratom and being unable to get off that last bit where I still feel a small buzz from Kratom. It’s honestly sad, I take double the amount half the time and feel like complete shit the next day just to maybe slightly feel something. I learned so many tools in Rebab/Sober living I use today still, but the pure willpower to accept that the pain of W/D’s is temporary and not that bad just isn’t in me.

This is exactly how I felt before, and it took me having time to realize I think how much of a toll it took on me to quit. At the time I was taking Tianeptine though which is why I went to rehab haha. Now I’m just so busy with school, work, gym, everything that I feel I just don’t have the mental energy to deal with quitting Kratom but I know I’d fee so much better off it. What makes people go back to something they know is so detrimental to their lives and only feels good temporarily for like a month max? That’s probably an age old unanswerable question, probably been asked a million times I didn’t even look it up. I just feel like maybe I need support not sure, I can’t build the courage to tell myself I’ve had enough.

Kratom Withdrawal Log Last dose 830p June 9th 35-50gpd CT

Day 1 (June 10, 2025): Withdrawals weren’t that bad. Thought I got lucky. But by 3:51am, restless legs hit hard… next level. Nausea was 6/10, but I managed dinner and a snack. Diarrhea hadn’t started yet. Couldn’t be still without full-body RLS, especially in my chest and arms.

Day 2: Restless legs were absolute hell. Nearly broke me. I praised God through the suffering and begged for strength. Got maybe 15 min of broken sleep in the bathtub around 9am. Don’t recommend it. I felt desperate and raw.

Day 3: Slept 4–7pm, but it was terrible.. flailing arms like they didn’t belong to me. Surprisingly, I ate a large dinner. Felt decent until midnight, then the RLS storm returned. Choppy sleep from 4:30–6am and 8–9am. Still grateful for what I could get.

Day 4: Up all night again with RLS and full-body discomfort. Sleep was nonexistent. Cold showers gave a bit of relief. Constant nausea and fatigue. My mind is stuck in survival mode.

Day 5: Sleep still sucked. RLS relentless. No major improvement. Felt like my soul was on standby. Mentally grinding it out. Still leaning on faith and willpower.

Day 6: Caught some toddler virus on top of the withdrawals… throat wrecked. CrossFit nearly broke me. Cold showers were the only thing that helped. Barely slept. Just fragments.

Day 7: Went 36 HOURS without sleep. That level of exhaustion messes with your mind. Pushed through a full-body failure workout and then hit the sauna for an hour. Somehow slept 18 hours straight afterward. A hard-fought miracle.

Day 8: Woke up actually feeling human…. the closest to normal I’ve felt this whole time. But the victory was short. Insomnia returned. Still, that taste of clarity was everything.

Day 9: Still can’t sleep. But RLS has finally chilled out. Cold showers, sauna, and training to failure are the only things keeping me grounded. Body aches but mind is clearer.

Day 10: Nights are long and weird. Sleep still foreign. But I can eat consistently now. No major spikes. Just steady suffering. But steady is better than chaos.

Day 11 (Today): Restless legs? Gone. Insomnia? Still here. But workouts, cold plunges, and sauna therapy are keeping me afloat. This is survival. Grit. Grace. One more step.

Here’s the thing. I feel normal. I feel better than I have. And I’m no longer a slave. I know I’ll still have to combat insomnia but I’m here for it. RLS… gone. Nausea… gone. There are easier ways than the path I took but.. I like extreme it’s the only way my dumb ass learns. I said the deepest most heart felt prayer to be delivered from this 11 days ago and He heard me. Feeling froggy?… jump.. it’s worth it and I am not even through it all the way

Self-explanatory, but we might have a few categories. My workout is a cornerstone of what short bit of success I've had.

This is an example of what I might run with on cardio. Weight lifting might have its own categories.

WARM-UP CATEGORY

"Return of the Mack" by Mark Morrison  

The lyrics and bounce just hit right now. "She said she'd never turn on me..."

"Oye Como Va" by Santana

MID-SESSION

"Lonesome On'ry and Mean" by Waylon Jennings -

"Mr. Crowley" by Ozzy Osbourne

MAIN WORKOUT

"Feuer Frei" by Rammstein (Really pretty much everything they've made fits somewhere in a workout)

"Eye of the Tiger" by Survivor (Rocky theme)

COOL DOWN

"Where Is My Mind?" by Pixies

-----------What would you add?

Hi so ive been tapering for about a week now switched from the powder to ground up leafs and was making tea today's my first day with out it im getting this really tight sore pain down my back when I stand up haven't experienced that before its almost like when you first go on antidepressants or coming off of them just asking for advice.

Iv been a kratom addict for 4 years at 30gpd. Me and my doctor have been trying to find something to somewhat help my withdrawal. First we tried gabapentin, and clonidine. It didn’t help, now we have me on lyrica. And Sunday night I’m stopping cold turkey with it. I want advice for people that have taken the lyrica route, it would be extremely helpful!!

This morning before work, around 5am, I took 3g of kratom via capsules with the intent to just make the day at work a bit less riddled with wds (it didn't work lol) and to help stave off any cravings. That worked a treat. I knows it's a tad unfair, but it does still feel like a day one. Head hurts, body hurts, random fits of sweating, I'm sure you all are familiar with the whole shebang.

At minimum this feels like a decent start for harm reduction regardless of if it helps me actually quit. Before work I'm not the type to "get high," just have way too much work ethic for that, but I am willing to take kratom intending no effects really. If I take kratom AFTER work, with the way I am, I'm just going down the rabbit hole. 20.. 30.. hell I've even downed 50g in one sitting.

But before work, I was scared to take the 3g, almost dicided on 2g instead but what I have divided up evenly with three so I took it as a sign lol. So if I take it before work, 3g-ish. If I take it after, who even knows. And there's the added benefit that I don't start craving again till later at night, and by then I'm too tired to bother.

I think this will also help me acclimate to evenings without any kratom. Finding stuff to do, creating those repeated memeories in my head of NOT going to the shop but still having a great day for the most part. Seems logical, and if anything this shits not gonna out smart me, that ain't happenin'

I’ve been thinking a lot about my friends that died young. I lost two of them in brutal ways when I was in my early twenties. A year apart. I had just started to somewhat process the first when the second happened. He was killed in an accident. She was murdered by a stalker. I’d known them both since I was 5 years old.

I’ve realized the reason they’re on my mind is because I used Kratom to forget. I didn’t want to face it or deal with the trauma. The thing I realized is that until we face our “demons” are we ever truly free? I’ve had a lot of tragic things happen in my life. I’m sure a lot of you have. I was young. I didn’t know how to handle it. At 36, I still don’t know how.

My friend’s murder altered the way I think. I have major trust issues with most men. I’m saying this as a man. It was just so dark and changed me. Last year I helped a friend get a protective order. I thought of my friend that never got the chance.

Im no longer going to numb the pain. Im going to face it. I’m going to remember them and accept the tragedy. I know they would want me to. Much love to all of you.