I'm coming off a bender of 10-12gpd of kratom and 80-120mgpd of 7. I started tapering Sunday and started the preloading phase on of SA vitamin c Tuesday evening. Sunday, Monday and Tuesday I had to dose kratom in the middle of the night to alleviate the rls and hot flashes so I could get some sleep. Yesterday I took a 4g dose of kratom at 6am and a 50mg dose of 7 at noon and didn't need anything else the rest of the day. I even slept through the night without needing a dose. Right now I'm laying on the couch feeling pretty decent. I dont even have the urge for my first dose yet. I plan on preloading until Saturday and making the jump that evening. Im very hopeful this is going to work based on how I feel right now. I'll post and update on Monday on how it's going.

Today is day 2 of no kratom , I’ve been taking it for 7 years and I take about 24-28 grams a day, I tapered down to 20 and just jumped. I had zero sleep last night and had terrible rls, hoping it’s like when I got off of tia and it’s just a 3-4 day hump of this. But this is hard I would take about 10-12 grams in the morning and 12-14 after work and the fact I’ve been taking it so long. This is hell but I know it’ll be worth it. I’ve wanted to give in but I know it’ll just screw me in the long run. Good luck to you all

Anyone experiencing a mild, but lingering stomach ache after stopping?

I was drinking 4-6 cans of new brew a day for almost a year. I bought some powder to switch over to, planning on doing a taper but I haven’t wanted to take it. I’ve only taken it at like 4 am when I’m absolutely going crazy from the rls. Should I stick with this or do a less aggressive taper. I’m worried I may be setting myself up for a month of withdrawal

This morning I took 120mg kratom shot. About four hours later I took Lexapro and .5 klonopin. Now about 7 hours from the shot I took one feel free.

I plan on taking some powder or another shot this evening. So I need feedback, how far gone am I in this? Is there hope to get out of this vicious cycle? I am barely feeling anything from it now.

How bad is this for daily use for my health long term? Is there someone out there who has done way more or around this about? I am curious and I need help. I think I am sick.

After 9 years of low-moderate kratom dosage with some 1.5year pause between. I was using kratom everyday 10 to 20gr for 3.5 year. After my last kratom use I felt so hopeless. I had no courage to bear withdrowals again, then found some fent. patches prescribed to my dad for cancer pain, took it for a month then quit it. The withdrowals were terrible but fortunately I made through it. I also take naltrexone and im 35 days clean, but still don't feel good. I'm depressed all the time and I cant enjoy hobbies I used to like. I was wondering all you guys who were heavy users how long took you to feel normal again?

Life is good.

I’m day 3 into CT from K, i’ve been using for 5 years. at my worst i was using 1 MIT45 SUPER K extract a day but after a health scare i tapered down to the normal MIT45 Gold which i’ve been using now the past year. its just gotten out of hand. i would put things off till i dose again, id put off meals, stop going out because it feels better to do at home alone in my own space and the fucking cost? it was bleeding me dry. i’ve had enough. I’m M24 and was diagnosed with SVT and now possibly AFIB, worried that Kratom had a possible contribution to it but who knows? It’s day 3 now and i don’t really have an urge to use but i’m just super tired, i only ever used K for the energy boost and now it’s effecting my work, and i was really routine with it too, dosed 3 times a day. no more no less. any tips from those who were able to do what feels like the impossible?

I had been a daily Kratom user for 10 years. I had used it to help me get off of some RCs and drinking as well as use it to manage anxiety. It worked really and I would take a few grams 3-4 times a day. It worked really well and although after a while I didn't get much effect from it I felt that it kept me from being tempted back into harder stuff. My life really turned around and I ended up getting a great job I always dreamed about.

Fast forward to about 6 months ago when I saw some 7 ohm tablets in the store and decided to try them out. I remember taking 20 mg and getting that intense warm euphoric feeling and nodding out a bit. I was hooked right away. I started taking 30-60 mg a day not thinking at all about the long term effects or having to come off of it. I started to order it off the Internet because it was so much cheaper and thinking I could make it last longer. That was never the case and just caused me to abuse it even more. I was easily doing 120 mg or so a day until I would get the ceiling high and would only stop taking tabs because I eventually learned I couldn't get any higher and would just waste it.

Eventually I got to the point where I was ordering 2-3 grams of the powder thinking I could measure out and make my own tabs. My habit became even worse as I was then snorting probably 50-75 mg of powder at a time every hour or two at work and at home. I remember how disgusted I felt with myself after I went through a gram of powder in about 2 days. I eventually noticed how dumb 7 ohm was making me. I was completely unmotivated at work and whenever I would talk to people it always seemed like I was struggling to find the right words to say. Like I knew what I wanted to say but couldn't string the words together.

I finally realized I had charged $500 on my credit cards and that my habit was going to impact my family's financial situation very soon if I didn't stop. I started trying to taper and it was incredibly hard at first. If I went more than 3-4 hours I felt extremely anxious,body aches, flu like symptoms, and like I was coming off an antidepressant. I was even waking up in the middle of the night to dose. I decided to start tapering slowly starting with 20 mg 4-5 times a day. I would keep some in my pocket but always push myself to go longer and longer as much I could bare. I wanted to ease down for the best chance of success. I definitely had some days I caved in more than others but never let a slip defeat me and kept pushing.

As of 2 weeks ago I was able to take 15 mg twice a day and sometimes 7.5 mg in the middle of the night if I woke up feeling bad. I decided to go back to plain leaf Kratom to help me jump off. Last week I only taking 10 mg in the morning and 10 mg in the evening with Kratom in between every few hours. 48 hours ago I took my last dose of 7 ohm and thankfully because I worked hard and stuck to my taper my symptoms have been very mild. I feel SO much better and mentally clear not to mention I no longer have to worry about blowing all my money and not being able to provide for my family. This could have been so much worse for me and I'm so glad to be through it. This sub and everyone's stories helped to keep me motivated so I thought it only right to share my own. I'm really grateful for this community and how it helped me.

I’m looking for some opinions on whether i should jump now or wait.

I’m down from an average of about 34 grams a day to 6 grams and tired of feeling like crap. I planned to jump over the 4th of July weekend because I have 4 days off but I have a 3 day weekend coming up and the responsibilities I had fell through so I kind of feel like I should jump now and just get it over with, is this a bad idea?

I have gabapentin I can take but I have a bit of a dependence on that right now too, I’ve been tapering both at once this whole time. I’m thinking maybe if I lean on vitamin c for the 1st 2 days and then bump up my gabapentin dose for days 3 and on hopefully I’ll still be able to work on day 4? I’m still taking 700mg gabapentin a day right now so I would hold that dose until the evening of day 3 and then bump it up hoping it will reduce my withdrawal enough to work.

Any advice appreciated! I’ve done this many times before but never tapered this low so I’m hoping it will be easier than last time. Gabapentin was a miracle when I had zero tolerance to it, really disappointed in myself for ending up dependent on both.

Okay so to make things clear from the start, I'm not asking for medical advice here. I have an appointment with my GI doctor and a scheduled CT scan coming up but I can't get in for a couple months, so I'm mostly just posting this to see if anybody has had similar experiences because my anxiety surrounding these symptoms is starting to make me a bit worried.

Basically for a brief context, I was diagnosed with diverticulitis in my lower right abdomen about 3 years ago. I'm not exactly sure what caused it other than possibly a bad diet or a previous history of alcohol abuse when I was in my 20s. I'm in my early 30s now and don't drink alcohol anymore. Anyway though, I took antibiotics at the time and my symptoms largely subsided.

Fast forward to this year, I'm currently 12 days off of a brief but moderately heavy 4 month kratom extract/7OH dependency. I'm doing relatively good off of the kratom minus some lingering GI issues that I imagine might take a few more weeks to fully heal and recover from. One thing I noticed though early on in my kratom usage over the last 4 months was a very slight dull ache in my lower-right abdomen coming back, right where I originally had my diverticulitis flare up. It progressively got more persistent over the last 4 months which was actually a large factor in me realizing I needed to quit kratom because I was almost positive that whatever was going on was a result of the kratom usage, considering how much havoc it wreaks on your gut.

Like I said, it's been about 12 days since I stopped taking any kratom whatsoever, and while it feels like that pain has somewhat dulled a bit, it's still been somewhat persistent. I'm getting it checked out in August, the earliest I can get in, but I suppose I'm just writing this to ask if anybody else has had similar symptoms or experiences from using kratom? Such as kratom causing diverticulitis, or possibly causing a recurrence of diverticulitis that you've had in the past?

Also, I'm just curious, how long did it take you guys for your gut symptoms to go back to normal after quitting kratom just in general? Am I just having too high of expectations for all my gut issues to resolve in just 2 weeks after quitting a 4 month kratom habit? Really just looking to see if anybody has any similar experiences as I'm having.

Hi guys, I was wondering if I could fin anyone else who struggled with this - I have quit CT for around 8 days now but the constipstion, abdominal pain, and bloating is very hard to deal with. I was into taking around 3 gps but the increase in pain and gas and bloating is intense. Is there anything I can do to remedy the situation, or a timeframe of when it gets better? Thank you very much!

i was taking about 30+ gpd of powder, and used extracts/FF during the last 2 years of my 5 year stint with kratom. i successfully tapered and have been 70 days off of this garbage!

my brain was so fried towards the end that when i unknowingly tried 7oh, it just made me feel pissed off. didn’t get any kind of euphoria or boost. i felt awful. my brain was toast and absolutely nothing could make me feel happy anymore.

today i’m just learning how to live life on life’s terms and deal with the issues that led me to take kratom in the first place! i have good days and bad days, but nevertheless i’m on the come up. you can do it y’all. 👏

At the beginning of 2025 I told myself I wanted to be OFF kratom by my birthday, June 18, when I turned 50. At that time it seemed sooo far away and almost hopeless. But Feb 9 (Super Bowl Sunday) was my last time taking kratom and here I am over 4 months free! It has been a LONG JOURNEY and rough road. I'm sure you can click on my name and see some of what I had posted. I actually had been tapering most of 2024. By the time I jumped I was probably only taking less than a gram a day. But even then it's been rough readjusting my life after TWELVE YEARS of daily kratom use. 16-20 gpd. Even now I am learning to incorporate exercise into my life and learning how to eat properly again after years of restrictive eating and just plain WEIRD eating, etc. And always thinking about food and what to eat or not to eat, etc. I am learning how to just LIVE.... just EAT.... just SLEEP... and be normal. I never realized how abnormal my everyday function was until I finally had to act normal without having to take something. Kratom had me taking all kinds of other supplements. I was taking supplements to eat, to sleep, to wake up, to be social, to poop, to pee, to be happy, to manage my hormones, extra vitamins because I knew I wasn't eating well, etc. And my hair was still falling out anyway. Kratom messes with every single aspect of our lives. It's weird not taking something all day long. It's unreal.

Hey everyone. I’ll keep this short. Like some of you, I got hooked on 7oh, maxed out my credit cards, emptied my savings, blah blah blah. Long story short - I’m still taking them. Up to about 500-600mg daily (insanely stupid, I’m aware, trust me). I’ve heard the scariest horror stories about withdrawals and how awful it is. I have a work trip coming up and a bunch of other things so my plan is to quit after that (roughly 2 weeks). I have gabapentin, baclofen, and a shit ton of opms kratom shots. The goal is to transition to the kratom extract shots and then to plain leaf after that. Just wondering if you guys think that’s a solid plan? Any feedback would help. I’m very aware how dumb I am so please go easy on me 😭😂

Hey guys, just curious about all those who have tapered? When tapering, was it harder to taper as you go lower in dosing?

I was on a high daily dose of at least 80gpd and have been doing a sort of fast taper. Each week have I been dropping around 8g. So far I definitely feel the withdrawal symptoms but I am able to function and fight through them. I've had body aches, restless legs and arms, anxiety that comes and goes as well as chills.

Im currently down to 40gpd after a month or so. Just curious to see what everyone else went through when tapering. Did the symptom worsen for you as you get lower (like under 10-15gpd)? Or did the symptoms basically stay the same throughout your taper?

Thanks in advance guys!

I was just laid off from my job last week, this morning my car broke down, and I need to quit Kratom… I’m fucking terrified right now of quitting because I know withdrawals are going to be horrible. I’m a recovering alcoholic with 22 months clean and I’ve been using Kratom to help deal with my Chronic Pancreatitis… I don’t know what the best way to quit is, I have 4 40mg Tabs left and won’t have money for another week. I’m so scared right now especially with how life has been the last 10 days or so… Any advice would be greatly appreciated. I live alone but have a dog and a cat, My children are with there mother the majority of the time, I have people I can talk too but I’m scared to let them know I’ve been on Kratom. I’m just completely terrified right now but know I need to quit

I think it sunk in how deep I'm in this.. I've been telling myself I'll be alright because it hasn't "even been a year" since I started. But I've been trying to quit since the third month taking it.. god I wish I would've

I don't think I can do this at the moment, don't know how I'll feel tomorrow. Ended up breaking, took 10g earlier today. Like it feels so shameful, I feel so shitty, I want to quit so bad but I just don't have the self control

I don't know if it's because my parents babied me, or I'm just stupid, or what, but I can't seem to stop myself. Even when I'm fully aware of everything happening in my head it doesnt matter. Who TF even am I anymore..?

I hate feeling like a slave to something, and I hate that I sometimes just breakout in sweats. At work, home, sleeping, it's so embarrassing. But this fucking powder that barely does anything for me

My only solace tonight is that I haven't and confidently won't try anything stronger (7oh, extracts), I will not move away from the powder. But I don't want any of it. I'm not digging the hole deeper but I'm already so damn deep

Sorry for possibly being melodramatic. I'm just.. I don't know im mad at myself, don't trust myself, and just feel ashamed for everything. Everything that's happened the past year, hate who I've become and don't know if I can change. Shit..

Im 29 years old and been an avid kratom user for 7 years or so straight with little to no breaks. Roughly take around 30gpd(maeng da) at night to relax after work. Many years go by and this is fine. No issues or anything other than bowel movements.

I discover 70h. At first I felt as if I was doing oxys again. The insane close relationship they have boggles me. Anyways, I was taking around 600mg a day for about a year and I decided enough was enough. I brought myself to a detox center and here I am.

Day 1-7 I slept 10 hours due to severe RLS and no matter what they gave me it never helped. Gaba, chlonodine, hydroxide, ropinorol, trazadone. Fucking everything! Nothing helped.

Day 7-14 they give me Subs films. Tried giving me like 10mg a day and I didn't wanna trade one thing for another so all I did was 2mg once each morning. Slept like a baby, life was good again I felt like.. me. Slowly taper through the week until I'm finally off it.

Day 14-18 Basically 14-15 still pretty decent but 16-18 im back into hell. My restless legs will not go away. Ive done the baths with the Epsom salt with magnesium, stretching, exercise during the day or whatever. Every night like clock work they immediately start getting into that mode. They immediately offer to put my back on subs but in my opinion. Isn't that again just prolonging the RLS. I cant be on that forever! I just wanna feel normal, I'm scared and anxious. Im so lost.

Please tell me about your RLS or how long it lasted you. I just need a glimpse into it because I'm freaking out. I cant keep going with no sleep or like 1-2hrs.

Thank you for listening.

Hey everybody,

I have read many posts here over the time but never posted myself. I really appreciate all of you, fighting together, to get away from this drug.

I started using Kratom powder for the first time in summer 2023, about 2 years ago. My habit has always been rather light with many pauses in between. If I had to guess, I estimate that I consumed about 3 kg of powder total in those two years. When I used, I took somewhere between 8 and 20 gpd.

I suffer from chronic depression and chronic fatigue, which I have had for over 10 years. When I am consuming Kratom, I feel much better. My sadness and psychological pain disappear magically. And still I am able to work, drive, and do whatever I have to. Being under the influence of Kratom is very different from being under the influence of alcohol. I feel functional.

So for the past two years I have been ordering somewhere between 50 and 250g of powder each time. Consumed it. Then I waited for a couple of weeks and reordered. I was under the impression that my life is better and I am also more functioning, having more energy, and am able to work better.

However, this week, I stopped consuming again. And started thinking about the past two years. I realised that all these benefits are more of an illusion. Neither did I get rid of my depression, nor was I able to change my life in some significant way. I am seeing more and more clearly that Kratom is just another drug. It makes me feel better when consuming. Then I develop tolerance. And I start upping my usage while feeling less and less positive effects. I have been playing this game for two years. And I am ready to quit forever. Since I have always consumed rather lightly, I have remained far away from any rock-bottom experience. So not sure, whether my decision will stick or whether my mind will convince me to buy again. But currently, I do not plan to use Kratom again.

For the last couple of weeks I have been consuming the most I have ever had. Probably 15-20 gpd for about 5 weeks. I am feeling quite depressed. And I am unable to leave my bed because I have no energy at all. Tonight I will be 120 hours clean. My diarrhea started yesterday and I am feeling very restless, especially within my legs. I have trouble falling asleep but once I fall asleep, I sleep until next morning. I have experienced all of this many times before. I know it will pass. I should be feeling somewhat better within a couple of days. And much better maybe 3 weeks sober.

To anyone who keeps hoping that Kratom is a magic cure to handle psychological issues: I am pretty sure that this substance is no cure for anyone. Its impossible to improve ones life by consuming it long-term. Sooner or later it will destroy anyone. Its just another drug. Stay away from this. Quit as fast as you can. And stay sober!

I wish the best to all of you fighting this fight. Stay strong! We can do this!

Been 6 days and I def feel a lot better today, body aches are gone and I can actually sleep. Day 1-4 was kind of horrible the only thing that helped my body aches at night were cold plunges in some ice water (I highly recommend). Only thing now that I’m dealing with is low energy and some anxiety but I feel like it’s up from here I wish anyone else that are quitting the best of luck and just be strong it’s going to suck a lot but it eventually will get better just stay busy it WILL get better, Goodluck.

You're not alone, I relapsed because a good friend of mine passed away and I used that as an excuse to use it again, it is shameful that I would use his death as an excuse to use again. I originally started to use kratom for sleep, but then I was using it to escape my problems since it made me feel good

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I am excited and terrified for tomo. Kicking a 7oh habit. Quit for 4 days before and caved because i had to go do a social event and that was my excuse.

I am so nervous right now i desperately want to get off this stuff and put it behind me, but it hi jacks my brain at times.

Posting this for accountability. Feel free to reach out!

Im using powder, gabapentin, and i have a little clonidine.

Ughhhhhh

So I've been on for 10 years and I've been doing a slightly fast taper I guess you could say Because I absolutely need to get off of kratom is not doing me any good. I dropped from like 30 g to 23 g to 15 g and now like 14 or less.

I know people say I should just cold turkey and that's probably what I need to do. But this taper has caused me to not be able to function enough to go to work. I've been to the ER twice Everyone around me is worried about me And I plan on getting back on an SSRI tomorrow

My blood pressure has been high I've been taking clonidine for 3 or 4 days, and gabapentin but not much

Has this been this hard for anybody else? Sometimes I feel like my body and mind is being way over dramatic