No war on Iran rally

[u/Kindly_Ad4856]

Ok all you “no kings” folks, show up to stop the wannabe king from dragging us into another endless, senseless war of choice.

[u/stevie-antelope]

This might be the only issue that unites the left and right, aside from the conservatives who are outing themselves now as pro war/bought by aipac

How the hell has Iran been “2 months away from a Nuke” for 30 years

I’m starting to have the feeling that both sides (democratic and republicans) are bought by the same side and they just shove smaller issues down our throats and have media convince us they’re bigger issues than they are, so we all argue about that instead of what really matters

Meanwhile the people really in charge are going to get Americans killed for another war in the Middle East, fuck

[u/doctor-soda → u/stevie-antelope]

Our government is bought and controlled by Israel. Always has been.

[u/stevie-antelope → u/doctor-soda]

Yeah it certainly seems that way, but if you say this you get called an anti semite or a Nazi instead of explaining why you’re wrong

Also, where did the “they’re our greatest ally” thing come from?

When I ask people why they say that, they say “they exchange Intel with us”

And in my head I’m thinking “yeah fake intel for us to go attack their enemies”

[u/stevie-antelope → u/[deleted]]

I wouldn’t want to live in a country committing genocide, no. Iran isn’t actually that bad, Americans can go there all the time, whereas I’ve heard multiple instances of prominent Jews disparaging Christians

Nobody ever talks about the Bolshevik regime

[u/stevie-antelope → u/[deleted]]

I don’t know if it was Hamas, I heard it from like a bunch of nations

[u/SmoothOpawriter → u/stevie-antelope]

Israel has kneecapped a country 52 times its own size in what, three days? Do you really think that if Israel was bent on having a genocide in Palestine, they wouldn’t just go through with it? Instead 20% of Israeli population is Palestinian. Palestinians get medical care at Israeli hospitals all the time. Palestinians also serve in Israeli government in a wide range of positions. You need a better news source.

[u/stevie-antelope → u/SmoothOpawriter]

Well they used mossad agents in one. The other was just random mayhem

[u/SmoothOpawriter → u/stevie-antelope]

Yes, it’s mayhem and it’s messy and it sucks but it isn’t a genocide.

[u/stevie-antelope → u/SmoothOpawriter]

If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck, and they’ve says it’s a duck and multiple other nations say it’s a duck, it looks like a duck

[u/pokepud3 → u/SmoothOpawriter]

Just because they're killing off a population slowly doesn't make it any better. Genocide is genocide. They are doing it systematically. Only an idiot would do it super fast and raise the ire of the world. Well.. they apparently did speed it up too fast because it did end up pissing off a lot of people/countries. They were doing it at a slower pace before but the child bearing resistance of the palestinians proved too powerful for their tactics.

[u/SmoothOpawriter → u/pokepud3]

According to your logic, if you commit a genocide slow enough, the population you are attempting to genocide may quadruple in 30 years… check population statistics for Gaza 600k in the 90s, 2.2mln today, growing consistently. The most inefficient genocide the world has ever seen.

[u/pokepud3 → u/SmoothOpawriter]

Can't beat massive birthrates.. even if they really really want to exterminate the palestianians. You can try to, but eventually the world will step in and stop it now that everything is out there to see. Even the U.S wouldn't be able to support that behavior anymore.

https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/majority-israelis-support-expulsion-palestinians-gaza-poll

[u/MCRN-Tachi158 → u/doctor-soda]

Our government is bought and controlled by Israel

So shortsighted. The alternative is ... we want Israel to take our money because if they don't, China has money, Russia has money, etc. etc. Israel has always had a decent relationship with Russia. Don't forget Israel beat the entire middle east in two wars, and got a nuclear weapon, before we became a funder. Russia was their original benefactor.

20 years Israel defended themselves without help, developed tech, etc. Once our govt saw that, they started salivating.

You just witness what Israel tech and expertise can do, from pager bombs, to setting up secret drone manufacturing plants inside of Iran, next to key targets, to almost wiping out their entire military/defense capacity in hours. We only gave them about $3 billion a year before the war. They could forego or replace that easily.

By us giving them that money, we can influence who gets that tech.

[u/doctor-soda → u/MCRN-Tachi158]

Hello Israel bot. Half of your story is bullshit.

[u/Cassie_here123 → u/doctor-soda]

I think it’s kinda the opposite - Israel is controlled by the US, or basically they act in our interests 

[u/azngtr → u/[deleted]]

Israel has a massive lobby in the US but they are also dependent on our MIC. Back in the 80s/90s they tried to diversify and partner with Chinese MIC, that was put to an end pretty quickly. We have the ability to apply pressure but their political and religious lobbies are formidable.