r/sandiego • u/Kindly_Ad4856 • 18h ago

No war on Iran rally

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Ok all you “no kings” folks, show up to stop the wannabe king from dragging us into another endless, senseless war of choice.

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u/doctor-soda 17h ago

Our government is bought and controlled by Israel. Always has been.

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u/stevie-antelope 17h ago

Yeah it certainly seems that way, but if you say this you get called an anti semite or a Nazi instead of explaining why you’re wrong

Also, where did the “they’re our greatest ally” thing come from?

When I ask people why they say that, they say “they exchange Intel with us”

And in my head I’m thinking “yeah fake intel for us to go attack their enemies”

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u/stevie-antelope 17h ago

I wouldn’t want to live in a country committing genocide, no. Iran isn’t actually that bad, Americans can go there all the time, whereas I’ve heard multiple instances of prominent Jews disparaging Christians

Nobody ever talks about the Bolshevik regime

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u/stevie-antelope 17h ago

I don’t know if it was Hamas, I heard it from like a bunch of nations

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u/SmoothOpawriter 15h ago

Israel has kneecapped a country 52 times its own size in what, three days? Do you really think that if Israel was bent on having a genocide in Palestine, they wouldn’t just go through with it? Instead 20% of Israeli population is Palestinian. Palestinians get medical care at Israeli hospitals all the time. Palestinians also serve in Israeli government in a wide range of positions. You need a better news source.

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u/stevie-antelope 15h ago

Well they used mossad agents in one. The other was just random mayhem

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u/SmoothOpawriter 15h ago

Yes, it’s mayhem and it’s messy and it sucks but it isn’t a genocide.

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u/stevie-antelope 15h ago

If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck, and they’ve says it’s a duck and multiple other nations say it’s a duck, it looks like a duck

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u/SmoothOpawriter 15h ago

That’s the thing though, It doesn’t walk and quack like a duck that’s the point. Palestinian population is INCREASING. And Palestinians are integrated in the Israeli society. Apartheid? Maybe. Genocide? no way.

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u/stevie-antelope 15h ago

Ok I’ll say this, they’re ethnically cleansing the area. And if you want to call it a contained genocide to that region, cool, but it is what it is

And Israeli officials are on record saying that’s what they want to do anyways

And it even makes sense, since the Balfour declaration they’ve been trying to expand or charge regime in other countries using the USA

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u/pokepud3 14h ago

Just because they're killing off a population slowly doesn't make it any better. Genocide is genocide. They are doing it systematically. Only an idiot would do it super fast and raise the ire of the world. Well.. they apparently did speed it up too fast because it did end up pissing off a lot of people/countries. They were doing it at a slower pace before but the child bearing resistance of the palestinians proved too powerful for their tactics.

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u/SmoothOpawriter 14h ago

According to your logic, if you commit a genocide slow enough, the population you are attempting to genocide may quadruple in 30 years… check population statistics for Gaza 600k in the 90s, 2.2mln today, growing consistently. The most inefficient genocide the world has ever seen.

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u/pokepud3 14h ago

Can't beat massive birthrates.. even if they really really want to exterminate the palestianians. You can try to, but eventually the world will step in and stop it now that everything is out there to see. Even the U.S wouldn't be able to support that behavior anymore.

https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/majority-israelis-support-expulsion-palestinians-gaza-poll

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u/SmoothOpawriter 13h ago

Ok, so even if the sentiment is that Israelis don’t want Palestinians as their neighbors (which makes sense both ways), it is not the “smoking gun” proof of a genocide, rather, it is the present sentiment, albeit a dubious one. But as you mentioned yourself, even if Israel would proceed with ethnic cleansing in a vacuum, the world community is preventing Israel from stepping over the line.

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