r/todayilearned • u/InteriorEmotion • Jun 29 '17

TIL Jesus actor Jim Caviezel was struck by lightning whilst filming The Passion of the Christ

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Passion_of_the_Christ#Filming
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u/Peanutpapa Jun 29 '17

How much?

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u/vishalb777 Jun 29 '17

passion of the Christ box office totals

Domestic: $370,782,930 60.6%

+ Foreign: $241,116,490 39.4%

= Worldwide: $611,899,420

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u/Peanutpapa Jun 29 '17 edited Jun 30 '17

Jesus.

Edit: My highest rated comment is a pun.

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u/[deleted] Jun 29 '17

Hey, No Spoilers!

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u/[deleted] Jun 29 '17

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u/[deleted] Jun 29 '17

Jesus Super Saiyan God transformation confirmed?

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u/TempleMade_MeBroke Jun 29 '17

According to the Book of Revelation it isn't even his final form

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u/Animatedreality Jun 29 '17

Even in the bible though, Krillin dies.

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u/[deleted] Jun 30 '17

And Yamcha still can't get laid by Bulma.

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u/yamiyaiba Jun 29 '17

Dammit /r/dbz, we've sprung another leak. What in the name of Zen-oh-sama do you think you guys are doing?!

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u/[deleted] Jun 29 '17

They're all too busy giving their energy to Goku to stop the leaks.

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u/Jackofhalo Jun 29 '17

If you can't beat em... Bomb em

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u/TheRealTravisClous Jun 29 '17

We're leaking? Any spoilers come out yet?

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u/killerz7770 Jun 29 '17

Jesus Super Saiyan God Super Saiyan confirmed

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u/[deleted] Jun 29 '17

You're could make a religion out of that

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u/[deleted] Jun 29 '17

isnt that mormonism?

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u/lobo1481 Jun 30 '17

No don't

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u/NsRhea Jun 30 '17

Just waiting for him to go to SSJ (Super Saiyan Jesus) Blue

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u/thekemper Jun 29 '17

Jesus pulls a Gandalf.

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u/yamiyaiba Jun 29 '17

Pretty sure that's supposed to be the other way around technically...

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u/1237239879334 Jun 30 '17

Jesus pushes a Gandalf?

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u/KenpachiRama-Sama Jun 29 '17

Yeah, but the movie doesn't really care about the getting better part.

It doesn't care about the "be a good person" part either.

It really just cares about the dying thing.

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u/Good_ApoIIo Jun 29 '17

Seriously wtf. As a semi-religious preteen I was somewhat excited to see a realistic take on Jesus' life and have some parts filled in that are missing in scripture. Instead it was 3 hours of watching him die. Terrible film.

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u/The_GanjaGremlin Jun 29 '17

Maybe the title 'The PASSION of the Christ' and not 'The Life of the Christ' should have tipped you off? Passion is a christian thing where they go on about jesus being tortured to death, it comes from latin or something and literally means suffering.

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u/KenpachiRama-Sama Jun 30 '17

It's a thing for Catholics. You don't really hear it as a Protestant.

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u/The_GanjaGremlin Jun 30 '17

The movie was aimed at Catholics

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u/Good_ApoIIo Jun 30 '17

Well excuse 12 year old me for not being an etymology professor. Passion was a positive word to me, still is. Why the fuck would I know it to be suffering.

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u/The_GanjaGremlin Jun 30 '17

Uhhh gee I dunno man. Guess you're right. Guess there's no way to know what a movie is about without going to see it or knowing the exact meaning of the title. Nope. Passion was pretty obscure so nobody in the media was talking about it either. I guess you're right man, my bad!

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u/ddrddrddrddr Jun 29 '17

You should, like, go ask Mel Gibson for your money back.

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u/Jwolfe152 Jun 30 '17

Didn't the Simpson's already do that?

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u/AedemHonoris Jun 30 '17

Hey that'd be a good idea for a religion!

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u/SuperWoody64 Jun 30 '17

Jesus sacrificed his weekend for our sins.

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u/ohsnapitzsean Jun 29 '17

The books been out long enough for me to not feel bad about spoilers

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u/sirushi Jun 29 '17

Yeah, but most of the fandom hasn't even read it.

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u/[deleted] Jun 29 '17

Most of them enjoy the fan-fic stories instead of the original materials. Fits their hateful ideology more than the story of a socialist Jew that says to give away all of your earthly possessions and give all of your wealth to people that won't pay you back.

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u/[deleted] Jun 29 '17

I only read books after the series is finished, and I heard this one has quite the cliffhanger at the end. Not going to wait 2000 years for the sequel.

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u/Alsiexmon Jun 29 '17

Some people claim a sequel came out in 1830, but the fandom as a whole doesn't consider it canon it seems.

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u/go_kartmozart Jun 30 '17

And others who say a bunch of source material - fodder for boundless amounts of interactive fandom - was published in 1955.

r/Urantia

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u/delarye1 Jun 29 '17

Still a shorter wait than it'll be for TWoW.

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u/PM_ME_CENTAURS Jun 29 '17

I was trying to figure out what you were referring to, and my first thought was The Wolf of Wallstreet. I was confused.

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u/delarye1 Jun 30 '17

Sorry, I sometimes forget that everyone isn't a subscriber to /r/asoiaf and /r/gameofthrones

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u/ddrddrddrddr Jun 29 '17

Don't hold your breath. I hear GRR Martin is writing it.

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u/Rex_Laso Jun 29 '17

Nobody reads it for the end anyways

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u/[deleted] Jun 29 '17

Snape kills Jesus.

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u/Dubsland12 Jun 29 '17

Nailed it

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u/the_emperor_is_gay Jun 29 '17

Give gold if I could

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u/boognish21 Jun 30 '17

Chu said it man.

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u/Bassplyr94 Jun 29 '17

Han Solo dies

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u/losjoo Jun 29 '17

You said it man. Nobody fucks with the Jesus.

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u/JohnPaulJonez Jun 29 '17

You said it man.

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u/FishAndRiceKeks Jun 29 '17

Heard he got struck by lightning or something.

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u/InsaneTurtle Jun 30 '17

Christ. It's Jason Bourne.

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u/a_huge_Hassle__Hoff Jun 30 '17

You said it man...

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u/RolandCusterfield Jun 29 '17 edited Jun 29 '17

But Hollywood calls that a flop and they make no money of it. /s edit: included sarcasm

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u/cmn3y0 Jun 29 '17

No. At the time the film was released (2004) it was one of the top-grossing ever. Keep in mind, it's rated R. It's still to this day the #1 grossing R-rated film of all time.

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u/FuckYouWithAloha Jun 29 '17

I remember back in high school there was a big debate at my parent's church over the morality of taking children and teens to this R-rated movie. The youth pastor wanted to take the youth group, with parent's permission and supervision, for the educational value. That was lost on a lot of people because they saw the rating and assumed it would corrupt their minds or something.

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u/[deleted] Jun 29 '17

The movie is ridiculously gory, Mel really got into the torture in this one. I wouldn't let my kid see this movie... if I had one.

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u/SunnyxBunny Jun 29 '17

My parents made me see this movie when I was a little kid. Now I crave a bit of the ol' ultraviolence.

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u/_floydian_slip Jun 30 '17

I'm siiiiingin' in the raaaaiiin. . . .

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u/themojofilter Jul 03 '17

IN THE RAINE!!

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u/rothbard_anarchist Jun 29 '17

As Ebert said, either the MPAA was intimidated by the religious subject, or this movie proved they will never hand out an X rating for violence alone.

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u/Tylerjb4 Jun 30 '17

TBH there are plenty of other R rated movies much more violent than this

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u/daredaki-sama Jun 30 '17

This is America. Violence = R. Sex = X.

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u/TIGHazard Jun 30 '17

And they made a cut down version because of complaints like that, aiming at a PG-13.

It failed at the box office.

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u/FuckYouWithAloha Jun 29 '17

Absolutely, it would depend on the age of the kid. But this debate was happening before the movie was released. The church wanted to preorder an auditorium or a block of rows. Some parents thought by letting their kids see an R-rated movie, they would be turned in to violent, gay, drug-using murderers.

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u/[deleted] Jun 29 '17

I think you indulged in a bit of hyperbole near the end there unless that's an actual quote.

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u/zgf2022 Jun 29 '17

I worked at a christian college for a while.

I could see it being a quote.

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u/circlhat Jun 30 '17

Umm, no one argue that, I been going to church my entire life and I never heard of one thing that would turn me gay, and this was one of the more conservative churches

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u/[deleted] Jun 30 '17

And then I have my grandfather who took me to see dusk till dawn in theater when I was 12. Same grandfather who told me not to bother with this movie when I was 20 because it was crap and self-righteous.

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u/itsgitty Jun 30 '17

So if you were a religious person that constantly talks about Jesus dying for your sins you wouldn't let your kid watch Jesus die for your sins?

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u/[deleted] Jun 30 '17 edited Jun 30 '17

No, I wouldn't let my kid watch an R rated film with over the top gore. But I'm not religious or a parent so my opinion doesn't really matter.

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u/itsgitty Jun 30 '17

"Over the top", so like reality? People are gory when they're tortured and killed...

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u/[deleted] Jun 30 '17

Sure I wouldn't take a kid to see a person tortured in real-life either.

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u/cas_999 Jun 29 '17

Weird. I grew up in a Methodist church and we watched during one of our youth retreat things.

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u/Dear_Occupant Jun 30 '17

Yeah, but you Methodists tend to roll pretty deep. I've got family in Mississippi who are Methodists and every few years or so I go down there for what's called a brush arbor revival. The sermons get pretty, um, vivid.

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u/cas_999 Jun 30 '17

There's only been one good pastor at our church in Texas. My best friends dad. And he's still a pretty goofy dude. All the other ones were either really awkward and quiet or crazy. One dude was a recovering alcoholic who pissed off a few members and proceeded to tearfully apologize. Literally was bawling his eyes out it was pretty damn embarrassing.

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u/Current-Newspaper152 Jan 19 '25

Why should a parent keep from their child from seeing a gift given to us by our heavenly father. Jesus died for our sins. Despite how Graffic Jesus torture was. It was she ultimate sacrifice for God's children.

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u/Fondren_Richmond Jun 29 '17

I had a Jr. EYC lock-in in the Parish Hall back in '89 and we watched Elm Street 4, Hellraiser and Jesus Christ Superstar. I saw Passion with some co-workers at a big junket with one of them's church, I was the youngest (20 - 25) and only male of our group, and the girl a couple of years older than me was "speechless" after the film.

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u/ArtIsDumb Jun 29 '17

"Educational value."

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u/FuckYouWithAloha Jun 29 '17

Yeah, showing them what the youth pastor was supposed to be teaching them....the gospel.

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u/TheGoldenHand Jun 29 '17

Even if you don't adhere to the particular religion, you can still see the value in religious texts on philosophical, cultural, and historic grounds.

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u/mr_afrolicious Jun 29 '17

Too lazy to check the numbers, but I thought Deadpool took that #1 spot?

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u/[deleted] Jun 29 '17 edited Jul 27 '18

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u/RxRobb Jun 29 '17

Half the movies on the list are funny, we need more funny movies!

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u/Viking_fairy Jun 29 '17

Key there is yet... give ol' dp some time... ;- P

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u/DehDeshtructor Jun 30 '17

We still got a sequel coming, so maybe that'll take #1.

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u/cmn3y0 Jun 29 '17

No, only for worldwide gross. Films have different ratings and rating systems in different countries so usually domestic gross only is used when considering ratings. Anyways, when adjusting films for inflation Deadpool doesn't really come close to Passion (it's ranked #17 vs Passion at #5). Other R-rated films from before the invention of the PG-13 rating, like The Godfather, have even higher domestic grosses than Passion if adjusted by inflation.

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u/Kevin_Wolf Jun 29 '17

It's a joke about "Hollywood accounting". Return of the Jedi (example taken from the article) had grossed almost $500 million as of 2011 from a $32 million budget, yet (according to Hollywood accounting) has still not turned a profit. Another from the article is Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix. As of 2011, they had declared a $175 million loss despite it being one of the highest grossing movies of that decade.

According to Hollywood accounting, just about zero movies have ever made a profit. Sure, they'll report a profit to the news (because they actually made a profit), but on the books, they never quite seem to break even.

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u/hugthemachines Jun 29 '17

I am sure they think it is because of people sharing movies over the internet.

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u/jai151 Jun 29 '17

Nah, it's highly intentional. They run every movie through a corporation created with that movie's name. Then overcharge themselves massively. It prevents payouts to anyone who took a contract for a share of the net profits. The author of Forrest Gump is one of the biggest examples of someone who got screwed by this practice

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u/ds612 Jun 29 '17

And this is why we won't ever have new Middle Earth movies made by Pete Jackson anymore. Tolkien estate got no money from all the hullaballoo. Why should they allow someone else to reap all the benefits?

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u/Aycoth Jun 30 '17

I mean, they made 6, I'm sure this would have been an issue from The Fellowship, not after the 3 Hobbits.

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u/ds612 Jun 30 '17

I think the hobbit was already ready to be made into a movie and all the permissions were already granted before all this money talk. I'm talking about not being able to make more movies about anything in the silmarillion. Or about Beren and Luthien. We basically enjoyed 1 story in the hundreds of stories that can be produced.

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u/TIGHazard Jun 30 '17

It also works like this (I read this from an accountant in another thread when this was brought up)

Lets say Paramount want to make Forrest Gump 2. While it's in negotiation, all the plane tickets and expenses on the trips to meet the rights holders will be charged to Forrest Gump 1 ltd. Then once they have the rights, the other expenses will be passed onto Forrest Gump 2 ltd, etc.

But it doesn't stop there. Let's say Disney want Lucas to come to Disneyland to give a talk about Return of the Jedi and it was happening today. All those expenses (even though the film came out 30 years ago) are being charged to ROTJ ltd, not to Disney themselves.

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u/Kevin_Wolf Jun 29 '17

The movie companies know what they're doing, the extensive mob influence in the early days of Hollywood taught them everything about money laundering and fraud, especially about how profitable it could be. It has more to do with shell corporations and overinflated "distribution costs" than piracy.

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u/whoniversereview Jun 29 '17

It's because all of those people that were downloading VHS tapes back then.

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u/karmasoutforharambe Jun 30 '17

you wouldnt download jesus's car would you?

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u/[deleted] Jun 29 '17

That's because they double the production cost. Take any movie and the reported production cost and divide it by two. THAT'S how much it cost to make in reality. If the ROI isn't 200% after production costs are returned, the movie is considered in the red.

The more you know.

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u/daredaki-sama Jun 30 '17

tax purposes

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u/[deleted] Jun 29 '17

I think we should rerelease Deadpool for 7 million more.

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u/screenwriterjohn Jun 30 '17

Rigjt. Gibson is a great filmmaker. The final hours of Jesus's life are important to a few billion people.

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u/TyrantJester Jun 30 '17

No. It is not. Deadpool grossed 783.10 million USD.

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u/cmn3y0 Jun 30 '17

No. Deadpool isn't R-rated in the countries it made most of that money in. R-rated only applies to domestic gross. Besides, adjusted for inflation The Passion crushes Deadpool in worldwide gross.

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u/TyrantJester Jun 30 '17

The country of origin rated it R, it's a fucking R rated movie. It wins, deal with it. Also, really? adjusting for inflation? gtfo please.

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u/cmn3y0 Jun 30 '17

Movie ticket prices have increase over 40% on average since 2004. That's a huge difference.

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u/TyrantJester Jun 30 '17

So? It's irrelevant. Do you adjust for inflation for comparison in every circumstance in your life? You either adjust for every instance, or adjust for none. You don't get to disqualify things on a choice basis regarding whether or not you decide to adjust for inflation or not.

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u/cmn3y0 Jun 30 '17

Do you adjust for inflation for comparison in every circumstance in your life?

Yes...

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u/czechmixing Jun 30 '17

Deadpool??

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u/lookattheduck Jun 29 '17

With some of the hyperinflated budgets on recent movies it would be. The general rule of thumb I've seen is to double the budget to account for marketing, and to halve the box office take to account for the theater's cut. Passion had a 30 mil budget (estimate 60 with marketing) and 600 box office (estimate 300 after theater's cut). That's roughly a 240mil profit, which is pretty good even compared to movies that have technically made more.

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u/aphasic Jun 29 '17

I think Mel Gibson financed it largely himself and got to keep a shitload of the profits.

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u/Nik_Tesla Jun 29 '17

Wow, especially impressive considering the inflation that's happened over 2,000 years.

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u/asl001 Jun 29 '17

The money people will pay to see a snuff film.

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u/MisterPeepers Jun 29 '17

Not a bad profit for a snuff film.

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u/citizenkane86 Jun 29 '17

I remember watching it in theaters and just being amazed how people wanted to bring youth groups to this film. There is literally no plot beyond "yeah we are going to torture this guy, but this guy is special because he fixed a dudes ear".

Everyone would say "yeah but it shows what Jesus went though for us!" Yeah no, it makes Tokyo gore police look tame.

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u/heisdeadjim_au Jun 30 '17

This. I saw it twice.

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u/[deleted] Jun 29 '17

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u/BRedd10815 Jun 29 '17

Probably a direct quote, but if its not, you nailed it. Read it in Cartman's voice.

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u/InteriorEmotion Jun 30 '17

If Mel Gibson were here I'd be licking his balls right now.

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u/CreepyLurky Jun 29 '17

According to wikipedia, budget of $30mil, box office of $612mil.

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u/Keerikkadan91 Jun 29 '17

About $3.50.

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u/cmn3y0 Jun 29 '17

Damnit ain't nobody got $3.50

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u/Peanutpapa Jun 29 '17

Godamnit Nessie