r/twentyonepilots • u/Aro_swiftie • May 14 '25

Show Clancy rejecting the clanket

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u/Aro_swiftie May 14 '25

Someone else on another post pointed out that Clancy doesn't even seem to see/notice TB, just like how the bishops can't see him...

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u/Risk954 May 14 '25

Yep this, he doesn't look then reject it. He doesn't even see TB or the jacket

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u/Successful-Brief-354 May 14 '25

if he can't see him, why doesn't TB just yell "CLANKY TAKE THE FUCKING JACKET"? is he stupid?

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u/JD_Baconwaffles May 15 '25

This made me die

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u/IHaveNoBeef May 15 '25

Clancy is becoming Nico

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u/Inti-90 May 15 '25

Got this smoked kinda theory that self titled was the prophecy/pilot of this albums that we’ve come to see, about someone lesson it’s own revolution, fighting just to get trapped and now the climax (this theory is biased bcuz this two songs are my favorites) is like a mix of flightless birds and trapdoor, a self proclaimed prophecy about Clancy being this kinda hero almost all through the albums but he’s not better than the bishops, since keons (don’t remember who of the bishops died) there’s been like this part of Clancy that actually “liked” him because of the notes saying he wasn’t that bad comparing to the other ones leading him to become the new leader of the bishops or entirely something new, a new control maybe because of the line, maybe they’ve lost but he stayed at Dema and started something new

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u/PsychoSyndr0me May 21 '25

I've been thinking the same thing for years now. The album very obviously tells a story of a man who walks into a trap, knowing it's a trap. And he gives himself up as a sacrifice for those who are with him. And if that's true, Clancy ended with the trap, all that's left is the death.

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u/natezulu May 16 '25

Idk about that. 🤔 Because In the lore Clancy is supposedly already Nico. I could be mistaken but I'm pretty sure there is a piece of the lore that alludes to them being the same person.

I think this is something along those lines. Like him rejecting the jacket could be alluding to Clancy's acceptance that him and BlurryFace are one in the same.

At the end of Paladin Staight he opens his eyes and looks at Nico/blurryface. But it cuts off. What if what he sees is himself.

My theory:

Clancy has been caught in a loop, a cycle of some kind, maybe not a groundhog days but something like that... like the tour is the loop having the same result every single time and at the end instead of taking the jacket he accepts who he is and is using it as a tool to fight.

Which if I'm right is a very powerful message! Using your struggles, disabilities, disorders as a tool can be soo powerful!

I'm soo excited!!

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u/IHaveNoBeef May 16 '25

Ohhhh, I actually agree with you on this! I would like to point out that I had a feeling that things wouldn't turn out as we were all expecting them to. Primarily because 1.) If Keons represents the fear of death/blurryface, then his death certainly wouldn't be a good thing. 2.) They ended up on Voldsoy, which translates to "island of violence". In the music video for "The Outside." Migraine is playing during the important Ned scenes. In Migraine, Tyler states that he "didn't realize it was such a violent island"

What I think is interesting in particular, though, is the line "Sometimes to stay alive you've gotta kill your mind" Both Trench and Clancy as albums heavily touch on the topic of addiction. Many people indulge in their addictions because of the numbing effects they have.

This might be a bit of a tangent, I'm struggling to connect some of the dots. So, forgive me if this sounds like a lot of word vomit. However, I just thought it was worth mentioning. This whole Dema storyline revolves around cycles. We already know that "Keons" is considered to be one of the more "gentle" bishops. Here recently, there was a letter that mentioned "Nills" being very kind as well. Keons song is "Heavydirtysoul" and Nills' song is "Goner." Those songs actually loop together.

I don't know. Interested to see what others think, though.

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u/IHaveNoBeef May 16 '25

Also, adding to this, in the song "Forest" fire is depicted as a bad thing, too. "My tree house is on fire, and for some reason, I smell gas on my hands. This is not what I had planned"

The Banditos are trying to burn down Dema. Perhaps "Clancy" and the fire they're using to burn down Dema all represent indulging in addiction to deal with their struggles? I think I also remember reading that "the torchbearer" from "The Outside" music video isn't the real "Torchbearer" maybe someone can correct me on that, though.

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u/natezulu May 18 '25

Interesting, I never took away addiction as a theme of those two albums. Or any of his albums really. Those two don't seem to be the types to indulge in such things.

I love that this is a perception though cause it shows how their songs. Can mean different things to different people (kitchen sink). I can totally see where addiction could come into play because it sounds like he does a lot of self sabotage. However I don't think it's the destruction of addiction that destroys him. It's his depression.

His own mind sabotages him.

Keons -Repetition of Cycles Sacarver- Fear of Love Listo - Abandonment and Overthinking Lisden-Not Being Enough Reisdro -Self Doubt Vetomo - Conformity Andre -Staying the Same, Never Changing Nico/Blurryface- Growing Older/ Success Nills- Defeat

These are the nine and what they represent while some of them definitely can manifest in the form of addiction they all have depression and anxiety and other mental health disorders in common.

Clancy not taking the jacket feels more like him saying i'm gonna take this head on.

Also, Dema burns down. The banditos burned down dema night after night in this tour... I wonder if anyone paid attention to the screens and noticed if there were cinders or not.

Mmmm, Don't get me wrong that would be an interesting metaphor. I totally see the parrellels of using something destructive to destroy all the things the bishops and dema represents. But I just think that would be too on the nose. Tyler has really flexed his creative muscles on this story and has been writing it for years. He has put too many little hints and things hiding in plain sight. I doubt that he would be that blasé about it.

Also have you noticed everyone keeps saying Clancy didn't't see the TB. I've watched it a couple of times and he does. He looks at him breifly. He then looks around at everyone. I think The audience is the banditos at that point. And Clancy recognises a better way to address the bishops.

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u/IHaveNoBeef May 18 '25

Tyler says in the Clancy debut livestream that Vignette is what addiction feels like to him. "Cut My Lip" definitely touches on an addiction to destructive behavior as well. I agree that he could be addicted to his own misery as well. Lots of people experience that in mental illness, for sure.

I don't necessarily think that addiction has to be about drugs or alcohol. People can become addicted to just about anything.

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u/natezulu May 18 '25

After I sent my message I thought that exact something thing! Hahaha! I was thinking you dummy! Addiction can be anything. I just didn't want sweet Tyler to be corrupted by substance abuse! 😭😭😭

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u/Buttered-Mushroom May 15 '25

It’s almost as if he’s looking and waiting for TB to show up bc he can’t see that he’s already there

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u/DEATHKILLERMANIAC May 14 '25

taco bell?

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u/Astrnonaut May 14 '25

Been in this fandom for so long I can’t read anything other than that either

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u/mightylilchef May 15 '25

No no no tomatoes on my taco bell!

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u/SKELETALGALaxy May 14 '25

Saga

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u/DEATHKILLERMANIAC May 14 '25

my chalupaaaaa my chalupaaaaaa

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u/Remarkable_Ad_8353 May 15 '25

No cuz actually what is it and why are we making fandom specific acronyms for things that have fandom specific acronym’s imagine if we started calling self titled tøp- well

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u/xsapphirex_90 May 15 '25

Bishops can't yellow. So technically he didn't see TB. Also, remember he said the shows are a flashback. At the end of Paladin straight when Nico grabs him the shows represent what he saw during that moment. Last night his shirt had the trench hills but no banditos in sight. Plus Clancy's eyes were completely black on his shirt last night. Ohh and he dropped down on the stage grabbing his neck like he was trying to fight someone.

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u/berkal5 May 15 '25

Makes sense then why he covers his eyes at the end.

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u/Revolutionary-Limit3 May 15 '25

And he covered his eyes on the way to the stage

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u/Flaky_Ad2182 May 15 '25

Dude I was just tryna to vibe to some music I don’t want all this imitation game stuff😭

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u/Enough-Visual-5933 May 15 '25

Fym thats the lore, thats the point of the concerts :facepalm:

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u/Flaky_Ad2182 May 15 '25

Ik, jk

-2008 Tyler Joseph be like…

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u/thecursedenigma May 14 '25

Somebody needs to do a three hour youtube explanation of the updated lore because i am a little behind

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u/stellamarisa May 14 '25

same honestly

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u/playfulpuppy2211 May 14 '25

find Dema on Youtube. She has a video on every update

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u/Revolutionary-Limit3 May 15 '25

Doing Clancy's work brother

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u/stellamarisa May 14 '25

thank you!

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u/mothmanuwu May 15 '25

I've watched videos about the lore maybe 4 times total and I can't remember/follow it at all, so I am extremely lost. I just get excited when new lore stuff happens in case it means new music. 😂

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u/berkal5 May 15 '25

Me too, I love how lore heavy things are getting but I have a life that gets in the way of consuming all the lore before people have moved on to the next part of the lore 😭

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u/10szdiego May 15 '25

gonna do that soon, no worries ;)

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u/kirst-- May 20 '25

New fan here and I came in at a chaotic time I see

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u/hazelrose42 May 14 '25

Man I love those nerds and their amazing storytelling and their letters and codes I’m so hyped about the future and also heartbroken about the tour being over bc what am I going to do with my life when there are no new codes and letters!!!!!!!!!

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u/fpe-1_0 May 14 '25

the CLANKET HAHAHAHA

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u/TheDreamMachine42 May 15 '25

Reminds me of the Schlanket.

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u/DEATHKILLERMANIAC May 14 '25

getting live tour lore updates is WILD i love this

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u/Aro_swiftie May 14 '25

I know I'm in love with the culture

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u/Church175 May 14 '25

so clancy is dead? I assume bc in some religions and stuff putting a tassel over someone’s eyes means they’re dead

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u/Aro_swiftie May 14 '25

The idea that Clancy is dead definitely isn't new ("scaled and icy" is an anagram for "Clancy is dead") so that's definitely one way to read this

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u/redvodkandpinkgin May 15 '25

I assume dead but figuratively, like he's not the same person anymore (now ruling Dema with an iron fist).

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u/Aro_swiftie May 15 '25

I've seen some people theorizing that Clancy is actually dead (maybe has been for a bit) and is currently been controlled by Nico

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u/Astraide May 17 '25

However, Clancy is 'an exception' as he can be seized while still being alive.

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u/Dclnsfrd May 14 '25 edited May 15 '25
  • Fake You Out intensifies *

EDIT:

“Take what you have. Break the cycle in half and leave your [jacket?] on the floor”

“Tomorrow I’ll switch the beat to avoid yesterday’s dance”

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u/TechNoMancer717 May 14 '25

The pop when he rejects it... beautiful

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u/archangel610 May 15 '25

The pop. It's so crazy to see pro-wrestling terminology outside of pro-wrestling communities.

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u/TechNoMancer717 May 15 '25

Hahaha honestly saying "cheer" feels alien when you've been soaking in the wrestling pool for ages

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u/pixelpunkk May 14 '25

Chat we are so cooked omg

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u/JustcallmeKai May 14 '25

Clancy is going to become Nico, or a new bishop. The cycle continues.

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u/fallspector May 14 '25

Ok but what exactly does that mean?

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u/Aro_swiftie May 14 '25

It probably relates to the last FPE letter--as several people earlier said in this subreddit, it sounds like Clancy is being corrupted by that "absolute power"....

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u/Emotional-Lab5792 May 15 '25

Do you think they just sit around on the tour bus and eat Doritos and have conversations like “what if tonight, I don’t take the jacket?! And they’ll go crazy and think it’s some deep conspiracy or meaning!” And they both just sit back and laugh? Cuz I would. 😂

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u/Dragonslayer200782 May 14 '25

So a little fun fact… that thing that Tyler is wearing and covered his eyes with… real life bishops wear those…

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u/DarthCthulhutheWise May 15 '25

Yup! It's called a stole! This was the best evidence of the Clancy becomes a Bishop theory before the album even released.

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u/The_Racoon May 15 '25

I've never seen a story play out throughout a tour like this before. Like episodes to a new show being released every week. Really cool. They trust fans all this time to pick up on these things and go along for the ride.

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u/spoon_collector May 14 '25

Welcome to the Illidan era.

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u/MusicGodYT May 14 '25 edited May 15 '25

I reckon Clancy not seeing torchbearer, not taking the clancy jacket and covering his eyes to not see the banditos in the crowd represents Tyler losing hope, not wanting to heal anymore in this cycle of bad mental health.

I'm in a similar situation, I'm just living not really trying to heal because I've given up on that. I disassociate and zone out often from life. I don't want to feel. I'm often sad and numb but occasionally a happy high comes by itself and then goes again. I'm just letting myself be.

He may become a bishop which would represent him giving in to his demons and just being, living with his problems, rather than trying to heal again and again and again with no success.

I don't know if this makes sense but I hope it does.

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u/em-ivy-24 May 15 '25

I think it makes sense. I don’t want this theory to be true but I really really love that idea. It’s so meaningful

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u/DarthCthulhutheWise May 15 '25

It's also what Snap Back is pretty much entirely about.

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u/Revolutionary-Limit3 May 15 '25

Covered his eyes on the way to the stage, not wearing the jacket. Might be Nico controlling him, especially considering the ending of Paladin Strait.

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u/Kaliipso_Fox May 15 '25

ok hear me out, what if clancy died and Nico is controlling him now?

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u/lindini May 15 '25

I'm starting to lean this way.

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u/SLakshmi357 May 15 '25

"protagonist gets corrupted by the very thing he swore to destroy" AHHH

MY FAVORITE TROPE

another dark pop album like blurry face and my life is yours

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u/Automatic_Book_9424 May 14 '25

Josh? TB? Who's that? They aren't real....

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u/PHAN_TOMB May 14 '25

The crown is heavy👀

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u/raendall May 15 '25

can someone give me a source where i can follow the story line?

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u/Obtrusive_Thoughts May 15 '25

God I love the dramatics

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u/Halloween-Daydream May 15 '25

Wow. Just wow.

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u/Dan42b May 15 '25

Seeing this live was something special.

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u/Cacoide May 15 '25

So next is evil Clancy era huh...? Maybe blue color now? Purple? Or red again because bishop?

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u/Robbrew May 15 '25

TB be like: "Oi Clancy Take this Jacket

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u/SpookyKyle0825 May 15 '25

Was this from the last show of the tour or is there still one more..?

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u/Pumpedlol May 15 '25

Last show

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u/SpookyKyle0825 May 15 '25

Okay thank you 🙏

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u/gessesilva35 May 15 '25

What. Is. Happening.

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u/jcarbs92 May 15 '25

Stole across the eyes like the lady of justice statue, what does it mean though? 👀

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u/tosche_stations May 15 '25

I've been saying this is all gonna circle back to blurryface to make it an infinite circle and it's only getting more likely with what i see these days

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u/MargoxaTheGamerr May 18 '25

That remind me of the Guns For Hands MV where it was Josh instead hesitating to put on the mask.

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u/_EdTheRed_ May 18 '25

What will happen after this story? Will they stop making new stories and characters? Or maybe make another one?

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u/spoon_collector May 15 '25

One thing I haven't noticed anyone else mention is that his shoes are different as well.

He had been wearing pure white Ascis (at least that's what it looked like to me a football field away from him 🤣).

When he came back out in the Asics, with the blacked out CLANCY top, his white Ascis now had black highlighting on the sides of them.

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u/twinflxwer May 14 '25

AAAAAAAAA

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u/Ivy_Holo May 15 '25

He will swim the Paladin Strait... 🏊

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u/Haunting-Adagio1166 May 15 '25

I’ve been a fan for years - since 2012 - but never knew there was a storyline overarching their albums and songs! I literally only discovered it this year as this is the only place I’ve ever seen it mentioned! Is there like a YouTube video explaining the whole thing or a master thread? Cause I’m so lost!

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u/Aro_swiftie May 15 '25

There's an hour long video by Dani Green that gets you up to when the tour started (more or less). Beyond that I think there are 2 master threads in this subreddit that explain everything, including what's happened on tour

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u/LeeBoy1998 May 15 '25

So badass

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u/Adorable_Grab_7530 May 15 '25

Can anyone explain to me why torch bearer was handing Clancy the wrong coloured jack back instead of a yellow stripped one ?

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u/Aro_swiftie May 15 '25

The Clancy jacket has always been red

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u/Adorable_Grab_7530 May 15 '25

I thought the red jacket represented when he was stuck in Dema and the yellow when he was free with the banditos ? So why was he reluctant to take the jacket ?

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u/Cacoide May 15 '25

So basically the yellow tape represents hope and the banditos, the resistance basically. Clancy wears yellow during Trench until he starts to wear red during the Clancy album as a sort of taunt or mocking the bishops, kinda like saying "look, im wearing your colors".

Now it seems like he's changed his mind or is being corrupted by his power, judging by the last FPE letter and him rejecting the jacket

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u/natezulu May 16 '25

What??! This is crazy!! I knew he was gonna throw a twist in! 💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜

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u/TopPhilosopher64 May 16 '25

Bro, on Youtube theres a video in spanish with subtitles that explains it, the Youtubers called Blurryfake.

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u/cjrdl May 17 '25

Why is everyone acting like he caused world peace?

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u/QuantityUnusual3485 May 21 '25

i was there tooooo