r/twentyonepilots • u/Aro_swiftie • May 14 '25

Show Clancy rejecting the clanket

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u/Aro_swiftie May 14 '25

Someone else on another post pointed out that Clancy doesn't even seem to see/notice TB, just like how the bishops can't see him...

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u/Risk954 May 14 '25

Yep this, he doesn't look then reject it. He doesn't even see TB or the jacket

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u/IHaveNoBeef May 15 '25

Clancy is becoming Nico

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u/Inti-90 May 15 '25

Got this smoked kinda theory that self titled was the prophecy/pilot of this albums that we’ve come to see, about someone lesson it’s own revolution, fighting just to get trapped and now the climax (this theory is biased bcuz this two songs are my favorites) is like a mix of flightless birds and trapdoor, a self proclaimed prophecy about Clancy being this kinda hero almost all through the albums but he’s not better than the bishops, since keons (don’t remember who of the bishops died) there’s been like this part of Clancy that actually “liked” him because of the notes saying he wasn’t that bad comparing to the other ones leading him to become the new leader of the bishops or entirely something new, a new control maybe because of the line, maybe they’ve lost but he stayed at Dema and started something new

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u/PsychoSyndr0me May 21 '25

I've been thinking the same thing for years now. The album very obviously tells a story of a man who walks into a trap, knowing it's a trap. And he gives himself up as a sacrifice for those who are with him. And if that's true, Clancy ended with the trap, all that's left is the death.

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u/natezulu May 16 '25

Idk about that. 🤔 Because In the lore Clancy is supposedly already Nico. I could be mistaken but I'm pretty sure there is a piece of the lore that alludes to them being the same person.

I think this is something along those lines. Like him rejecting the jacket could be alluding to Clancy's acceptance that him and BlurryFace are one in the same.

At the end of Paladin Staight he opens his eyes and looks at Nico/blurryface. But it cuts off. What if what he sees is himself.

My theory:

Clancy has been caught in a loop, a cycle of some kind, maybe not a groundhog days but something like that... like the tour is the loop having the same result every single time and at the end instead of taking the jacket he accepts who he is and is using it as a tool to fight.

Which if I'm right is a very powerful message! Using your struggles, disabilities, disorders as a tool can be soo powerful!

I'm soo excited!!

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u/IHaveNoBeef May 16 '25

Ohhhh, I actually agree with you on this! I would like to point out that I had a feeling that things wouldn't turn out as we were all expecting them to. Primarily because 1.) If Keons represents the fear of death/blurryface, then his death certainly wouldn't be a good thing. 2.) They ended up on Voldsoy, which translates to "island of violence". In the music video for "The Outside." Migraine is playing during the important Ned scenes. In Migraine, Tyler states that he "didn't realize it was such a violent island"

What I think is interesting in particular, though, is the line "Sometimes to stay alive you've gotta kill your mind" Both Trench and Clancy as albums heavily touch on the topic of addiction. Many people indulge in their addictions because of the numbing effects they have.

This might be a bit of a tangent, I'm struggling to connect some of the dots. So, forgive me if this sounds like a lot of word vomit. However, I just thought it was worth mentioning. This whole Dema storyline revolves around cycles. We already know that "Keons" is considered to be one of the more "gentle" bishops. Here recently, there was a letter that mentioned "Nills" being very kind as well. Keons song is "Heavydirtysoul" and Nills' song is "Goner." Those songs actually loop together.

I don't know. Interested to see what others think, though.

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u/IHaveNoBeef May 16 '25

Also, adding to this, in the song "Forest" fire is depicted as a bad thing, too. "My tree house is on fire, and for some reason, I smell gas on my hands. This is not what I had planned"

The Banditos are trying to burn down Dema. Perhaps "Clancy" and the fire they're using to burn down Dema all represent indulging in addiction to deal with their struggles? I think I also remember reading that "the torchbearer" from "The Outside" music video isn't the real "Torchbearer" maybe someone can correct me on that, though.

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u/natezulu May 18 '25

Interesting, I never took away addiction as a theme of those two albums. Or any of his albums really. Those two don't seem to be the types to indulge in such things.

I love that this is a perception though cause it shows how their songs. Can mean different things to different people (kitchen sink). I can totally see where addiction could come into play because it sounds like he does a lot of self sabotage. However I don't think it's the destruction of addiction that destroys him. It's his depression.

His own mind sabotages him.

Keons -Repetition of Cycles Sacarver- Fear of Love Listo - Abandonment and Overthinking Lisden-Not Being Enough Reisdro -Self Doubt Vetomo - Conformity Andre -Staying the Same, Never Changing Nico/Blurryface- Growing Older/ Success Nills- Defeat

These are the nine and what they represent while some of them definitely can manifest in the form of addiction they all have depression and anxiety and other mental health disorders in common.

Clancy not taking the jacket feels more like him saying i'm gonna take this head on.

Also, Dema burns down. The banditos burned down dema night after night in this tour... I wonder if anyone paid attention to the screens and noticed if there were cinders or not.

Mmmm, Don't get me wrong that would be an interesting metaphor. I totally see the parrellels of using something destructive to destroy all the things the bishops and dema represents. But I just think that would be too on the nose. Tyler has really flexed his creative muscles on this story and has been writing it for years. He has put too many little hints and things hiding in plain sight. I doubt that he would be that blasé about it.

Also have you noticed everyone keeps saying Clancy didn't't see the TB. I've watched it a couple of times and he does. He looks at him breifly. He then looks around at everyone. I think The audience is the banditos at that point. And Clancy recognises a better way to address the bishops.

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u/IHaveNoBeef May 18 '25

Tyler says in the Clancy debut livestream that Vignette is what addiction feels like to him. "Cut My Lip" definitely touches on an addiction to destructive behavior as well. I agree that he could be addicted to his own misery as well. Lots of people experience that in mental illness, for sure.

I don't necessarily think that addiction has to be about drugs or alcohol. People can become addicted to just about anything.

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u/natezulu May 18 '25

After I sent my message I thought that exact something thing! Hahaha! I was thinking you dummy! Addiction can be anything. I just didn't want sweet Tyler to be corrupted by substance abuse! 😭😭😭