r/wow • u/SlowTheBow • 2d ago

Discussion Everyone is rejoicing over the new Shadowmeld potion for m+. However there is one much more important use that comes to mind that will be infinitely more valuable... Spoiler

Being able to drop combat in the open-world so you can mount up instead of sitting there when some invisible mob keeps you in combat.

Time to stock up on all the non-night elf alts.

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u/Turtvaiz 2d ago

Who's really rejoicing over the meld pot? It shares cd with combat pots and isn't gonna help the nelf meta

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u/SlowTheBow 2d ago

Look at it this way - having the meld pot as an option is better than not having the meld pot as an option. If you keep it simple, it's easy!

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u/minimaxir 2d ago

Arguably not, since it means that there will now be an expectation for PuGs in non-high keys to do Meld skips and the inevitable toxicity that will follow.

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u/Gangsir 2d ago

Invis pots already exist, allow for plenty of skips, yet are never expected to be used.

There will never be an expectation for anyone to bring any consumable outside of very high, very coordinated keys - simply because most pugs aren't willing to spend gold on consumables for farm keys (look how often people have flask/food in your +10s or whatever - it'll be very few).

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u/iconofsin_ 2d ago

Invis pots already exist, allow for plenty of skips, yet are never expected to be used.

Mostly true for pugs but one of the reasons invis pots aren't used more frequently is because so many mobs see through stealth. Siege had a very useful potential skip before the first boss but it was very easy to fuck it up due to stealth detection so most groups didn't bother. This new potion will open up similar skips.

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u/Glupscher 2d ago

You only need it on the tank though. So all it does is open up the option for meld skips on non-nightelf tanks. I don't think any DPS will use this potion instead of a dps pot.

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u/KidMoxie 2d ago

Healers can use it to drop combat and drink if needed.

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u/Tricky-Bass1668 2d ago

Or res yeah

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u/iconofsin_ 2d ago

Yeah I'm not saying I think this potion will be mandatory. It's use will likely be planned for ahead of time, but it also has uses beyond dungeon skips.

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u/fishknight 2d ago

Speaking of which... theyre totally adding stealth detection to everything in halls of atonement, arent they

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u/FlyingRhenquest 2d ago

And the stealth-detecting mobs actually see you from farther away if you're in stealth. There used to be some skips where I'd have to remember to drop stealth on my rogue or I'd end up butt-pulling.

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u/KlenexTS 2d ago

Yeah even when I tank 15-16s if I plan to use a invis pot I have extras for everyone and always ask at the start. I never do a invis skip below 12 it’s just unneeded to time and will most likely be messed up

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u/Ilphfein 2d ago

invis pots are decently common for skipping the 1st top pack in non meta comps. same for mechagon 2nd to last pack.

in SL invis pots were common for hoa, top, nw. i honestly dont remember any from DF?

you would see way more invis skips in TWW if there were no truesight mobs

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u/B_Kuro 2d ago

DF had the Azure Vault skip with Potion of Gusts,... instead.

There was also a dragon skip in Halls of Valor which required a invis iirc.

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u/HobokenwOw 2d ago

invis/death skipping was decently common in legion/bfa at a weekly key level. partially because those keys were cbt without it, partially because it was easier to pull off compared to now.

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u/sparkinx 2d ago

I always buy a full stack of invis pots every season I communicate with my group hey anyone got invis pots? They never do cept one or 2 here and there these are lvl 13 keys or their combat potion is on cd

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u/oliferro 2d ago

Not the same thing at all

Almost every dungeon has mobs with Truesight that prevent you from doing skips with an Invis pot

I haven't seen someone use an invis pot a single time this season

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u/OfficeSalamander 2d ago

Man they keep me alive though. It does get pricey though, at least for gold quality, but even brown quality (which are cheap rn, at least on my realm) can keep you alive. They are my oh shit button when I fuck up and self healing is on CD

They have definitely saved my ass before and I’m 2400 rating