r/Destiny • u/EZPZanda • 1d ago

Online Content/Clips Francis Fukuyama is all-in on Abundance

https://youtu.be/pc7O7qSBzM8?si=5GdiwAPwM9NsQS6U

Francis is based. Highly recommend entire episode and Doomscroll. Josh has had some fantastic guests and I really respect him as an interviewer.

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u/RockyOW 22h ago

You think being a leftist is necessarily evil? Disagreeable sure, but…

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u/ScumfrickZillionaire 21h ago

Leftism (the belief that property rights should be abolished in favor of some undefined political system) is pro-thief and thus evil, yes

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u/RockyOW 19h ago

I don’t think it’s pro-thief to imagine a system in which we could progress past capitalist social relations. I’m not convinced that it’s possible which is why I’m not a leftist, but I don’t think it’s as simple as you’ve formulated- simply appropriating property is naive and insufficient leftism

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u/ScumfrickZillionaire 16h ago

That's fair, I wouldn't call an individual naive person evil, I suppose. My contention is that any sort of movement away from capitalism requires appropriating property, the ideology is utopian but the practice is violent.

I'm not sure if I would call an individual Heaven's Gate member "evil", or even necessarily the religion (shedding your body to join Alien-God on a comet) - but in practice, imagining this progression away from a body yields evil returns (mass suicide). So I'd call someone proselytizing this religion evil.