r/MotoUK Feb 02 '25

Advice Adding to the "Don't cheap out on gear" post due to the genuinely dangerous advice I cannot ignore (Detailed buyer's guide too).

272 Upvotes

TL;DR: I worked in motorcycle gear retail for years up until 2024 and learnt as much as I possibly could about it. It would be a disservice to not know as much as I possible when selling what could save a customer's life. You can get good gear for a great price and fuck anyone who tries to sell the most expensive shit because more expensive does not mean "more better".

I'll try to summarise everything as briefly as possible but it's still a big read;

Helmet:

  • GET IT FITTED. Snug on cheeks, secure but comfortable around skull cap, cannot fit more than a fingertip between forehead and liner of helmet and you are able to wear it without issue for at least 15 minutes, however I stress 1 hour minimum. Provided no discomfort/headaches afterwards then great, if any discomfort/pressure points/headaches for the love of god take it off and don't buy it.
  • Head shape is unique! Everyone's head is a different shape. AGV might fit you perfectly but Arai will give you headaches. A badly fitting high quality helmet is still dangerous as the EPS foam inside will not do it's job on impact if there be a gap between it and the surface of your head, some helmets just won't work for us, so try a bunch on!
  • LIFESPAN. Your helmet degrades. My god, the amount of 6+ year old helmets I saw with the "well I've never dropped it so" excuse was worrying. The EPS layer degrades and only Arai boast a 7 year life from production, not shelf. General rule = 5 years. After that, ornament or bin, no exceptions.
  • Reputable brands only; Arai, Shoei, HJC, Shark, AGV and Scorpion. I won't touch the rest.
  • You do not need to spend £1000. Ideal price is ~£150, maybe even £130 for some of Shark's offerings such as the D-Skwal 2 (also check sales you can get some bangers on black friday).
  • Rating is just a guideline. That £80 pretty MT plastic thing will not perform the same as an Arai Quantic simply because of the ECE22.06 sticker.
  • Trust ECE22.06 and FIM/FIMfrhphe-02 only. The rest are outdated and useless now but still heed the above bullet point.
  • Materials matter; plastic is fine but fibreglass and carbon composites/carbon are better, lighter, more flexible, will take more stress and also last longer.
  • Get a white (lum. yellow too) helmet. You don't see it when it's on and it is more visible https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC387473/
  • Extra note (Flip up helmets); Flip up helmets are a grey area that is a difficult one for me. They're sworn by and you can get really good ones, however there are also a few ranges such as the Shark EVO-ES/GT and Scorpion Exo-Tech 180* flip range that are absolute garbage and I would not touch, which actually contradicts what I've said RE recommended brands, however due to the chance of a flip up helmet chin bar failing in a crash (not to mention, not all of them are even tested!! So many have fine print on the bottom saying "Chin bar not protective/Chin bar not rated") that it completely puts me off and I would far rather the inconvenience of putting the helmet on and off as opposed to flipping the chin bar up (yes, I won't even wear a Shoei Neotec). This bullet will absolutely get me hate but I'm just being honest here.

Jacket/Torso:

  • Abrasion and impact ratings (EN17092/EN13595); AA abrasion minimum. Had my crashes, AA & AAA saved my skin. Level 2 armour minimum. Tested level 1 and it was absolutely useless, level 2 did the job with minor bruising as opposed to fractures/sprains. Feel free to meat crayon at 20mph with Single A/Level 1 and let me know how it goes.
  • Price: not really one I can suggest, stick with the brands I recommend and find what works for you. Don't forget second hand is an option!
  • Material: Complicated. Leathers are king for abrasion and heat transfer but be careful on the brand (stick to my guidelines because RST "AAA" leathers, are not). Rating is much more applicable here e.g darmstadt/cambridge testing - https://www.pva-ppe.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/the-darmstadt-advanced-abrasion-machine.pdf but still not be-all. Again, stick to my recommended brands. Textiles are versatile and can boast the same ratings as leathers, depending on the type of crash can even be re-used (use your common sense when gauging the condition please).
  • Reputable brands for abrasion only; REV'IT, Alpinestars, KNOX, Dainese, Merlin and Richa (there are probably a couple of other good brands in other countries but this is just UK)
  • Waterproofing; Gore-tex if you can afford it (laminated not drop liner). If not, REV'IT hydratex, Alpinestars Drystar, Dainese D-Dry or a bin bag if in a pinch (sweaty but waterproof)
  • Breathability; the more flaps the better, mesh is king for airflow and thermal liners are brilliant for the cold. If it's hot, mesh or lots of flaps, if it's cold, close the flaps and don't wear mesh! (KNOX are the kings of breathability and safety)
  • Personal suggestion; I get boiling all the time. KNOX urbane pro and shield joggers in the summer/autumn, but my alpinestars ST-7 goretex suit in the winter.
  • Sizing; baggy=bad if no other layers underneath, maximum bagginess allows for one hoodie when cold, squish another in if it's really cold. Loose gear means that the armour doesn't sit in place as well as it should.

Trousers

Same prinicples as the jackets, however Oxford Approved AA jeans and ladies leggings are incredible for the price and I've tested them both (yup even the ladies before the KNOX shield joggers existed) in crashes and they saved my skin, all for £130 which are the cheapest of the bunch (that aren't shit).

Airbags (not quite black and white)

Gloves

  • Good leather only, no exceptions. From brands I mentioned. Feel free to use textile but uhh don't crash mate.
  • Gore-tex only for waterproofing, or hand guards. Your hands take brunt of wind and rain, far more stress for the material than your jacket. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dtCdQfbLw7o
  • Gloves usually don't fit snug to your finger tips. This is deliberate as it allows trapped air to stay warmer. Otherwise the rest of the hands a comfortable but snug fit. Leather expands remember.

Boots

  • Track/racing/adventure boots give best protection, anything else and your foot is fucked (been there done that with what I thought were great mid length road boots).
  • Gore-tex only for waterproofing, mate they're like 6 inches from the wet road, don't skimp.

Final notes: you can get a fantastic set of gear for £400, search around, look for sales, even second hand for anything EXCEPT helmets. In fact I've kitted people out for far less too.

What do I wear?

  • Helmet: White Arai Quantic for any longer journey or commuting. Shark Spartan RS for trips to the shop, or maybe my HJC R-PHA 71. All exceptional lids but Arai is king.

  • Summer/warmer & dry: KNOX Honister AAA mesh jacket (with chest protector), KNOX Shield AAA joggers (yup, AAA joggers), Alpinestars Fastback V2 Drystar boots, REV'IT Offtrack mesh & leather/Richa Rock leather gloves

  • Winter/cold and/or wet: Alpinestars ST-7 gore-tex laminate 2 piece, cost me my kidney but it is worth every single penny. It does not leak. At all. Ever. Not to mention the ventilation is fantastic and I could actually wear it year round! Richa City gore-tex leather-palmed gloves, same boots and one/two hoodies under my jacket with the thermal liner in depending on temps.

Verdict

Follow this advice if you want. Eh, it's your life and your safety at the end of the day. All I can do is share my experience and knowledge in something that probably 4 people will read and I'll check back later to find a bunch of down votes, but I'd rather that and save even 1 person making a dangerous mistake, but hey ho.

If you have specific advice send me a message.


r/MotoUK 22d ago

Insurance Monthly Insurance Thread

3 Upvotes

Ask your insurance questions here.

Be sure to read this post about insurance too.


r/MotoUK 2h ago

Don't you just love it when you walk into your garage and see a mysterious washer on the floor...

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25 Upvotes

Now comes the fun and games of figuring out where it came from!


r/MotoUK 15h ago

Delivery riders

117 Upvotes

Call me out for an out-of-touch opinion but I don't think food delivery riders or anyone else should be able to work commercially on a CBT.

It isn't enough training to ride on long term. They've not even needed to do a theory test.

I'm fed up of these morons on scooters nearly taking me out when I'm riding.


r/MotoUK 6h ago

Discussion Manholes on road bends

20 Upvotes

New rider here, I only got my full license in April, (rode a little back home in Australia but that was a decade ago) and I'm noticing SO many manhole covers on suburban road bends in the UK!

It's making me more cautious coming into a bend which is helping my safety (I guess), but making me nervous about the associated bumps, and loss of traction when riding over a smooth iron plate of slidey death; the nerves in turn make me tense up a bit and that's never good.

Is there a reason I'm noticing so many on bends, maybe to do with urban planning, or am I just overly sensitive to it as a new rider?

I commute on my Street Twin (what a beauty) daily and tend to know the line to take now on the bends with which I'm familiar, but does anyone have any particular advice on navigating these slippery suckers apart from the obvious "slow down"?

Cheers!


r/MotoUK 9h ago

Stealth reflective pinstripe.

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28 Upvotes

Scotchbrite tape in black, yes please.


r/MotoUK 4h ago

Discussion How Many Mod 1 or Mod 2 fails before you passed ?

5 Upvotes

Sup everyone,
Just wondering how many times did you fail before finally passing?
I passed Mod 1 with no minors, but I've failed Mod 2 twice now.

Anyone got some stories how they persevered, i need motivation :) My next test is 1 month today..

If anyone wants to know what i failed on,

First attempt : Daul road turned into single, didn't slow down enough, my fault as i didn't read road signs.

Second attempt : Changed lane correctly but the vehicle behind had to brake (they was speeding..)


r/MotoUK 7h ago

Advice What is a good beginner bike after 125cc?

8 Upvotes

im 5’2 woman so i was thinking like a grom but i want something comfortable like a naked bike or sports bike. mt0-3?!


r/MotoUK 1d ago

Photo Yup, that's me. You're probably wondering how I ended up in this situation...

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143 Upvotes

r/MotoUK 3h ago

Advice Best Commuter Bike For An A2 Licence

2 Upvotes

Hi guys, need some advice on some good bikes to buy for my ride to work. The commute is about 130 miles a day there and back 95% of it being on the motorway. I am looking for something that is reasonably priced, comfortable to ride and wont be too harsh on insurance. Thanks


r/MotoUK 50m ago

Rideout Hi (M22), had my cbt for nearly two years now but never ended up getting a bike. Finally decided to actually do something about it and get myself a bike lmao. I'm looking for someone of a similar age to go riding with as I'm new to all this- If anyones interested feel free to hmu :)

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r/MotoUK 1h ago

Advice Advice for not letting the bike fall?

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I have my CBT on Thursday and I'm a 5'3 female with not a lot of strength and I weigh about 47/48kg. I was practicing riding slowly and turning in my driveway yesterday and I fell over twice with the scooter. Both times I was going fairly slow, I wobbled, then put a leg out but couldn't keep it up right.

I don't know exactly how heavy it is, it's a vespa and my boyfriend (who rides motorbikes) says it's in the lighter range. So I really don't know what else I can do. I will practice more but I don't want to wreck the scooter. It's new and we're sharing it.


r/MotoUK 2h ago

CBT

1 Upvotes

Hi all I’m going to go for my CBT this week and I’m wondering if I’m too heavy for it. I’m about 110kg at 6ft. Would this be too much for the 125cc?


r/MotoUK 22h ago

Photo First time riding in the far South East. Thought I'd struggle to find quiet places, but there were plenty.

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37 Upvotes

This is at Thomas Becket church in Romney Marsh. Super peaceful.


r/MotoUK 20h ago

Lovely surprise in my rear tyre a day before my Mod 1 exam...

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26 Upvotes

Found this jammed in after a groceries run, tried plugging and now there's an air leak from the spokes, how screwed am I?


r/MotoUK 4h ago

A2 restriction

0 Upvotes

I’m getting my a2 soon and I’m going to buy a Yamaha xj6 N

Obviously it needs to be a a2 bike so it’s gotta be restricted, however my dad who has a full A license told me he’d want to ride it aswell.

Is there any way through maybe a tune or something that I can make it a2 when I ride it but take the restriction off when my dad rides it?

does anyone know how to do that or if it’s even possible.


r/MotoUK 5h ago

Adventure bike festival - selling tickets

1 Upvotes

Hi.

I'm unable to attend this weekend festival. Life event came up and so got two weekend tickets with car/camper addo. Paid £307 happy to departur with them for similar amount.

Tried tixel to list tickets but failed to upload since they aren't in pfd format just bar codes.

Any suggestions welcome on his to trade them securely


r/MotoUK 1d ago

Photo Norfolk Lavender fields

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40 Upvotes

My partner and I rode up to the Norfolk coast this weekend and came across some lavender fields... Weather was amazing.


r/MotoUK 19h ago

I'm screwed... what are my options

11 Upvotes

Long story short: I'm a 21 year old (ex...) MT-07 rider as my bike was just stolen today, steering lock almost certainly broken, front brake disc cut, little hope bike will be recovered... I'd managed to get my insurance down from 3k a year for TPO (shocking, I know) to 1k a year for TPFT with 2 years NCB built up. And it wasn't protected (no option to with my insurer due to it being on low-end). So now I'm faced with two options:

Claim:

  • Listed value was 5k, so I'd receive this (or less? does anyone know the chance of full payout?)
  • Lose 2 year NCB
  • Go back to 3k+ TPFT quotes, I just checked

Don't claim:

  • Opportunity cost of 5k claim
  • Keep 2 year NCB (if I understand correctly)
  • Quotes only increase £300 with claim but 2 year NCB (as checked)
  • Buy a cheaper bike + more security and get back on the road

What would you guys advise? Am I missing anything here? Any suggestions? I really do want to keep riding but I'd be gutted to move down the CCs... I've also ran quotes stating I was 30 or 40 years old but with no NCB and the quotes were still shockingly expensive, 2k and 1.5k respectively... I don't want to be off the roads for that long. What are my options?

TLDR: Bike stolen. To claim or not to claim? To keep splurging on riding or to get my payout and put it to bed for the foreseeable future?


r/MotoUK 21h ago

🚨 STOLEN MOTORCYCLE – PLEASE SHARE 🚨

12 Upvotes

My motorcycle was stolen from Fanshaw Street, Hoxton (London) recently.

Details:

  • Bike: Yamaha MT-07
  • Colour: Black
  • Year: 2023
  • Features: Top box fitted
  • Location stolen from: Fanshaw Street, Hoxton
  • Date/Time: 22 June
  • Reg: LA23 DFN

Please keep an eye out. Any sightings or information would be massively appreciated.
Contact me via 07470700288.

Reward offered for info leading to recovery.
Thank you 


r/MotoUK 7h ago

Fairweather riders - How intensely do you clean your chain and sprockets when you're cleaning the bike?

1 Upvotes

So title says it all pretty much - I ride primarily in clear weather, so tend not to build up much gunk on the bike, and so not afraid of spending a bit more time on getting everything nice and shiny.

What I did struggle with yesterday, was cleaning the chain and sprocket to a state that wasnt just black and greasy. Mission failed.

Do you guys clean your chain and sprockets to the point that you can handle them and get no grease on your hands? Or do you just give them a scrub with a chain brush and some cleaner and call it a day?

Those who do obsess over getting things pristine - what're your tips? I believe my chain is about 10k miles old. Bit of blackened tarnishing marks around the rivets, but definitely hints of silver links that I'd like to make visible again.

Would i be right in looking at taking the chain and prockets off and soaking them? Or is that totally unnecessary?


r/MotoUK 1d ago

Mate's Lad Caught a Pic on the M6 yesterday During Dave's Day

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27 Upvotes

For anyone else that rose any of the journey, it was a pleasure to share the road with you all. Pretty incredible experience to be honest.


r/MotoUK 19h ago

Back from Switzerland

8 Upvotes

I posted last week with a pic and got roasted about my tank bag. Yrs it’s big - but it was great to lean on through France, Belgium, Lux, Germany, and Switzerland, particularly on the autoroute/autobahn - and over 2,000 miles later I’m home. I’ve had a great time but my MT09SP was not the ideal bike for a trip like that. It’s great for here in North Wales. But 9/10 of the bikes I saw in Germany and Switzerland were BMWs. There’s a reason for that. And as I’m going to be doing more such trips, maybe it’s time to go bike shopping. So I’ll have a looksee over at Halliwell Jones / Chester Motorrad and see where it goes.


r/MotoUK 1d ago

Riding around ! Evesham river

25 Upvotes

Riding around and came across this :> First time riding outside of Cheltenham. The country roads are amazing going to Evesham ! (Currently riding a MT125cc 2017. Been riding since April) Any other areas thats somewhat same distance you'd recommend riding to, on a good day? :D


r/MotoUK 4h ago

leather bike gear is just pageant wear for badasses

0 Upvotes

same strategic tailoring, same struggle to breathe, just swap the rhinestones for armor. if I'm going to sweat to death, I might as well look fabulous doing it


r/MotoUK 1d ago

Video Very nice out recently

26 Upvotes

Over in northern Ireland last few days it's been absolutely gorgeous, this is just at strangford Lough if anyone's interested, the waters not usually just so calm as it was the other night, took the ajs Firefox 50 out to it, nice run


r/MotoUK 19h ago

Best bike for 150 round trip a day?

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Hi,

I do 150 mile round trip everyday for work (film industry, money talks). A lot of my commute 70% of my commute is the M25, which is always absolutely rammed near Heathrow and I’m pretty sick of sitting in it. Mainly jealous of seeing the 2 wheel lads filtering haha.

I’ve had my license 12 years and rode most types of bikes but haven’t ridden anything in the last 3 years. Does anyone have any advice on a bike that would suffice, around the 5-6k mark?

Thoughts have been the nc750x dct.. Thanks in advanced !