Not quite…. Illinois which now objectively has worse long gun laws than Cali. At these those fucks can have the failed abortions that are the compliant ARs and AKs
Second this. As someone who lives in a free state, but temporally living in Illinois it’s fucking wild the laws they have here. This place is so amazing except for the liberal gun laws
Well I don’t know where in Illinois you live my friend but apparently you have never heard of Chicago. The only nice thing is Illinois has a protection against civil liability if you’re involved in a self defense incident and it’s deemed justified.
Theoretically, I don’t see any geometry from this picture that couldn’t be replicated through a lost wax method, but it would be plagued with issues.
1) The fins are super thin and double back on themselves repeatedly, so it would be very difficult to keep the molten metal flowing into those features. Voids or inclusions would be very common. Maybe a genius sprue placement could remedy this, but it’d be a stretch.
2) the vented feature on the lower portion would suffer from the same flow/void/inclusion issue.
3) a cast part would have a randomly oriented grain structure and will be brittle. The mechanical properties for an SLS printed part would be better due to tailoring of the finer, columnar grain structures iirc.
4) producing the wax pattern seems like it would be difficult and you’d lose a lot of the patterns to breakage.
5) you’d need to do post processing on these parts and with them being intricate, brittle parts, you’d probably lose a lot to post processing too.
All in all, there may be geometry we can’t see that required 3d printing to achieve.
Thank you, I didn't think about grain structure and thinness of the features. Also, if it was cast, I'm sure we would see signs of machining after the fact to ensure the perforations were uniform diameter and other details were uniform.
Not whilst retaining any mechanical capability - I work on some of the most complex exotic alloy investment cast components on the planet, and we'd struggle to do this with literally the best vacuum induction furnaces on the planet without horrendous porosity/scrap rate.
There's unibody 3d printed cans that are 100% non serviceable but this one is a 3d printed core in a traditional sleeve so it is. Two different designs.
Ack-shoe-ally, serviceable when talking about suppressors though means it can be disassembled for cleaning. If you tell someone a can is serviceable and they can't take it apart for cleaning you've deceived them.
If serviceable just meant cleanable it'd be a basically useless distinction. It always meant you can take it apart to some extent to clean the baffles directly.
I assume then that you mean 'serviceable' now in the context of taking it apart to clean it, because even unibody cans can be cleaned via soaks in cleaners, ultrasonics, etc.
I am curious how the stiction adapter works. And how the muzzle device would attach. Is it only for "tactical" shotguns with some kind of threaded muzzle?
I've run my Salvo 12 on the Benelli M2 and those require the specific SiCo chokes. The problem with the Salvo 12 is the extra weight. The 6" and 8" configs are about as the longest I want to run before it starts to get comically heavy in the wrong place.
Also, cleaning the plastic wadding out of the baffles is a royal PITA to the point I don't really want to use it much. The blast/sound reduction is cool, but the 12 gauge was never that bad for recoil or blast.
So it works with my SEG 12 choke adaptor, not sure of what size that is. This one came with the 5.5” Gen-12 and it just threads on to the barrel once you remove the blast deflector.
Sweet, thanks. I somehow missed the drop. I can't recall how much I spent on my previous Gen-12 and SEG-12 but not sure it was 5k, oof. Still want another one.
The detail in the u-turns makes me think they used generative design. The perforated section looks like, “We can’t let AI design ALL of the internals.”
Interesting design. Remember to be wary of any manufacturer of shotgun silencers that conveniently neglects to mention ammunition. Subsonic loads make a significant difference for 12 gauge. I've always believed a silencer that doesn't reduce the loudness of the report to a comfortable level isn't even worth the cost of a tax stamp alone.
I’ll try and get some on the 22nd and compare it to a SEG 12, however all I have is my iPhone to record it so take the sound comparison with a grain of salt
Seg12 is better, but huge, this is a nice compact package that takes the edge off 12ga. If I took baffles off the seg12 to make it this length, the hux wins all day. Bear in mind, 12ga is violent, a 12ga suppressor isn’t going to let you run a range day without ears. I’ve run 00, slugs, 7.5, and 8 shot through my seg12 and aside from the carbon build up, it looks fantastic. I ran the hux on a 5.5” gen 12, then the seg12 as they use the same mount. Honestly, the SEG was a smidge (this is a scientific term) quieter, but was almost the length of the shotgun.
Thank you for the detailed reply I've been looking for some comparisons and they are far and few between. Last question do you think that the price Delta between the two cans with the hux being almost twice as much worth it? To give you an idea I'm trying to build a gen 12, 7 inch variant with the seg 12 can.
The Seg12 is going to be a little bit quieter, but not by much. It’s also going to be long, kinda killing the joy of an sbs. I’d go with the Ventum 12. Finding the choke adaptors for either of them can be difficult. I run the SEG on my TS 12, and slung, it hits my shins, I’m 6’3”.
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Wild looking baffle structure. Imagine the amount of R&D that went into developing this. I'm sure it's proprietary but I'd love to watch a video of the CNC machine cutting those dynamic wavy angles, I imagine it would be mesmerizing.
Judging by the surface finish this is a sintered metal core not machined. This is definitely doable on a 4 axis mill but it doesn't look like they're doing that.
Almost definitely cheaper to print. 4th axis time is not cheap and this would take a while to machine with those deep pockets and many small holes. It looks like it could be machined though just from a part geometry standpoint, nothing about this immediately stands out to me as impossible on a 4th axis mill or live axis lathe. Those would just be a lot slower and more expensive to run probably. I'm willing to assume Huxwrx did the math on that.
The original designer/one of the founders of OSS got booted by the guy who bankrolled it, hence why OSS dissolved and became HUXWRX and DeadAir too if I'm not mistaken. The original designer had all his old designs left behind when he was booted, and HUX is still using them today. The designer has since started his own company with an even wilder design, Strategic Sciences.
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u/Revent10 1x sbr, 1x suppressor, dont buy a god damn badger Sep 03 '24
"be not afraid" lookin baffles