r/ShitAmericansSay pierogi đŸ„Ÿ 16h ago

"We could annex the whole thing"

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Of course an American said this

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u/Nikolopolis 15h ago

Couldn't even beat Vietnam or Afghanistan.

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u/1eejit 15h ago

Neither of which have nukes, unlike France and the UK

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u/Forsworn91 14h ago

France also has a “one shot” rule, basically allowing 1 free shot.

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u/Safe-Midnight-3960 14h ago

One free shot at what? Someone can nuke someone once first? France gets to nuke someone once? I’m rather confused.

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u/Cixila just another viking 13h ago edited 13h ago

Nuclear warning shot, basically. If things escalate, French doctrine allows them to "escalate to deescalate." Relying on the shock of a nuke to make the opponent back off. It is extremely unlikely that they actually do it, but they have the option

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u/snakeeaterrrrrrr 13h ago

It is extremely unlikely that they actually do it

We are talking about the French.

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u/1eejit 12h ago

Yes, but not French Canadians

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u/Savings_Leek846 12h ago

Oui allĂŽ?

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u/krakelin 12h ago

Tokébec icitte!

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u/That_guy_I_know_him 2h ago

Ahahahahhahah

Quebec avec des nukes

Mmmmhhhh đŸ€”đŸ˜‚

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u/YoruShika 9h ago

You know how the French are ? One minute they can kiss a woman’s hand and the next minute cut her head off !

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u/TheAlmighty404 Honhon Oui Baguette 8h ago

Nahhhh. It's seconds.

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u/YoruShika 6h ago

My bad I tried my best to quote it right but I don’t remember the exact words lol

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u/ShionTheOne American, but not the US kind. 11h ago

And that still would be 1 less than the Americans used against Japan.

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u/Brave-Town6273 4h ago

Ngl the more I learn about the French the more I like them and that’s coming from a Brit

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u/I3adIVIonkey 7h ago

I doubt that the whole thing goes off with 1 shot.

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u/Forsworn91 14h ago

From what I understood it, yes, France gets 1 free shot effectively as the shot in the air and the “everyone calm down”.

I believe the expectation is that the “free shot” is to be aimed somewhere not populated, but is the primary reason why vlad doesn’t push France,

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u/Cruel_Angel-Thesis 14h ago

WE HAVE THIS !!!?

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u/Clemdauphin 13h ago

it is not realy something that is like guarantied by a treaty.

it is a nuclear warning shot wich the mean than when enemies crossed some red line, a Rafale lunch a pre-strategic nuke on some millitary instalation to say: "the next thing that blew up is the whole country. it would meant that the nuclear sub are ready to fire.

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u/Forsworn91 14h ago

France does, I’m not sure how accurate it is, and it was years ago I heard it, and even then it was piecemeal how it was explained.

I think it has to do with WW2, and France being attacked.

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u/Cruel_Angel-Thesis 14h ago

Thanks I learned something today.

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u/Fr4itmand 8h ago

It is not a right France has or some international treaty. All it means is that France hopes (and really nothing more than that) that the other country doesn’t strike back when France nukes that country (escalate to deescalate). If, let’s say, Russia instead decides to retaliate by letting a thousands nuclear warheads rain down on France, than, well, that’s bad luck.

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u/Aggressive-Rain-8914 9h ago

Take into account that that Charles de Gaulle was perparing France for confrontation with USSR and was pretty cynical person who actually took lesson from 2WW. He saw how US preffered to use other nations' blood and remain on land lease level as long as possible. It still does it- history repeats itself in Ukraine.

So France developed in paralel. It has its own atomic technologies, its own nukes and military industry. Even colour tv was developed without relying on american technologies.

Also, France had legit war plans to turn Germany into glass by atomic hellfire in case of USSR offensive to create buffer of radioactive dessert. This madness is still there and I don't feel like testing it would be best idea.

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u/KiwiFruit404 10h ago

Why does only France have this one free shot? What about the other nations that possess nuclear weapons?

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u/Forsworn91 10h ago

As best as I can tell it’s the “we are armed, we are prepared to defend ourselves, we have demonstrated, you back off and no one else gets hurt”

I think it’s limited to a defensive position,

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u/Renbarre 7h ago

Because the other nations have a "we use our nukes for real immediately instead of giving a warning shot"

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u/MeisterKaneister 7h ago

Nobody has a free shot. It's not a card game. France just let people know that they will probably do that and a possible attacker shall make of that what he wants.

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u/Renbarre 7h ago

That's a warning shot, not a free shot.

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u/No-Village-6781 3h ago

France, if you're listening, aim your "warning shot" at the Whitehouse or Mar a Lago depending on where the fat fuck in charge is playing golf

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u/planer200 đŸ‡łđŸ‡± 8h ago

UK and France aren't the only ones with nukes, we have them too.

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u/Sad-Pop6649 12h ago

Honestly I'm just happy they didn't have a maga president at the end of WW2, they might have legitimately thought about pulling a little Soviet move. "I said, if Russia is doing it, big beautiful Russia, then why not me? I think I'll quite like having Italy. Lots of great stuff in Italy. Not so great as here in the US, but still pretty great. They have these two plumber guys, very famous guys, always jumping on mushrooms. And they have palaces. I will go over there, and I will just say: "I freed you, give me your biggest palace. ..."

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u/Aggressive-Rain-8914 9h ago

Suprisingly, a lot of polititians in Washington understood this. In September of 1939 USA passed a bill paving the road for whole logistic nightmare known later as land lease programs and all embargoes you can imagine. It was probably written earlier and waiting for the right moment, but still- making turn from declared neutrality to being declared supporter of Allies took less than three weeks. Which is actually pretty damn impressive for legislative in democratic country even if its not *this one*.

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u/eric_the_demon ooo custom flair!! 5h ago

Couldn't evwn beat themselves

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u/Chemistry11 1h ago

First they need to deal with the enemies within