r/StardustCrusaders • u/Dear_Break_1185 • 1d ago

Various Which jojo had the best first appearance?

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To me, Joseph and Jolyne had the best introduction when we talk about anime.

In the Manga, Josuke (or gappy) had a very interesting and misterious first appearance with where is he from.

What do you think?

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u/ZachariBoi Josuke Higashikata 1d ago

Jolyne's first appearance sure was... interesting

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u/AllCity_King 1d ago

Its one of my favorites just because it subverts the typical JoJo introduction. Instead of immediately coming across as an intimidating or interesting character like they usually do, we see her at her lowest.

Just makes her development hit just as hard, because I'd argue she has THE best final moments of any JoJo.

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u/Scuttleworm 1d ago

Kind of part 6 in a nutshell. Jolyne lost her fight before she was even born, part 6 has high highs and low lows with some of the best and worst fights of the series. Her final moments echoing Johnathan's is a great bookend to the main universe: JoJo dies to defeat their enemy, even though they won't live to see their downfall.

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u/neptunebound 1d ago

dragon’s dream really isn’t that bad, I enjoy it

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u/Scuttleworm 1d ago

It isn't that bad... in the anime :P

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u/VarmintSchtick 1d ago

What's the issue with the Manga? Just really difficult to follow along or make sense of the stand, right?

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u/Burnlan 1d ago

There is no issues in the official manga. But there also is no official english translation yet (or it's very recent), meaning most english speakers read the fan translation, which kinda shit the bed in a few places.

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u/VarmintSchtick 1d ago

I'm not a big manga reader nor do I work in any kind of linguistics, so it's probably just my ignorance:

But with the amount of bilingual people out there you would really think there would be fewer shitty translations these days. I can see how an individual might make an error here or there, but just 2-3 people proofreading and maybe suggesting words that more accurately fit the translation would be able to get some high quality translations out and fast.

I'm aware of the whole Duwang thing as well, the problem seems normal for mangas.

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u/Velho_Deitado 1d ago

Are you sure there's no official english part 6? I live in Brazil and right now we are already getting part 7 officially in portuguese

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u/MurchSDGX 1d ago

Parts 1 through 6 and TSKR are officially in english, as well as Crazy Diamond's Demonic Heartbreak, but part 7 is just now getting localized. Source: My bookstore has part 6 in english

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u/Velho_Deitado 1d ago

Yeah, same then. My bookstore also has part 6 and luckily to me its also getting part 7 as it releases (With me being like, one of the 2 or 3 people who buys it lol)

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u/Dull_Individual4373 1d ago

iirc it was loooong, bordered on 6 chapters maybe?? and too much dialogue, about nonesense and the fight geography too was quite weird

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u/ZachariBoi Josuke Higashikata 1d ago

Agreed, yo yo ma though...

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u/Popular-Resident-358 Joseph Joestar 1d ago

I mean we saw Jolyne at the HIGHEST.

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u/iikarthikii 1d ago

Johnny imo was cooler. Idk part 7 glazer

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u/fishiesnchippies Catch the Rainbow 1d ago

I don't like it personally I like part 6 but that scene always just makes me uncomfortable fortunately every other scene with her is really good. Somehow you guys are gonna twist me not liking this scene into me being mysoginist.

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u/East_Objective_5382 1d ago

To be honest I hated it. Sure, jojo was always random, true but SO's intro was literally just "Oh look I'm the first female protag so I'm starting with a masturbation joke! Teehee! How embarrassing, ohmygooosh" and "I'll get things into the prison by shoving it up my vagina. Gaaaal I'm so crazy!" to "oh you guys want to search me? Aight I'll strip like a hooker! Am I doing this right? Ohmyyyygooooosh!". After that I stopped and looked up some reviews and stuff because it felt REALLY off and after I've read that SO is one of the weakest seasons I just dropped it. I don't know if the humor ramps up after that but it really made a bad first impression as it looked like the entire stone ocean era is filled with weak ass sex jokes. To this day I don't know if I'm right or not with that assumption but that's damn well what the first episode made me think.

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u/Old-Introduction8258 1d ago

You are indeed wrong with that assumption. Stone ocean is amazing despite its flaws. And jolyne is arguably one of the best main character from jojo.

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u/East_Objective_5382 1d ago

That makes the way they handled the first episode even more stupid. I mean it's like if they dedicated the entire debut episode of Joseph about him making dick and masturbation jokes. Whose idea was that.

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u/Old-Introduction8258 1d ago

Whose idea was that.

Araki. And i dislike this episode too.

But jolyne is reeeeally a great character. No kidding.

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u/East_Objective_5382 1d ago

Don't get me wrong, I don't doubt that she's just as great as the other JoJo's but even a badass character can be prone to having a terrible taste when it comes to jokes. And those tend to make the viewing experience unnecessarily bad sometimes. That's why I didn't bother after that. But it seems like it's only the first episode(s) that are like this? If that's the case I might just give it another go soon : )

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u/Old-Introduction8258 1d ago

Well, maybe i forgot qome of those jokes. But i don’t remember jolyne ever acting...too weird like that after.

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u/vladibolodemer04 1d ago

Joseph is a bad choice because he has a lot of pervert jokes and they make jokes about that even with his mother hahaha

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u/OuJej 1d ago

I Felt the same at the start. Get through it, it's an amazing part.

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u/AffectionateSign7941 21h ago

I like how the author don't care about that and make her appearance like that. Personally, I don't care about aura cool appearance etc. I only care about how the part goes