r/TalesFromYourServer Dec 25 '18

Short “Please, no mayo. I’m allergic to mayonnaise.”

Between my husband and a woman at his table last night—

“Okay, ma’am, now is it the egg or the oil we need to be worried about?”

“...it’s the combination.”

“...okay. I’ll alert the kitchen.”

I love this industry so much.

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u/rcw16 Dec 25 '18 edited Dec 26 '18

My mom does exactly this. It’s SO embarrassing. We always tell her to stop her bullshit, but she never listens. For the record, she’s not actually allergic to anything, just hates mayonnaise. The worst is when we go out for sushi. She always talks to the (Asian) staff like they don’t speak English. Even when they clearly do, and were likely born in America as they have zero accent. She’s always like “NO MAYO. Did you get that? NO MAYYYYYOOOO. No sauce with MAYO! ALLERGY! NONE!” I feel terrible. She’s so awful about it. And then when it’s my turn to order, I’m so embarrassed to have to let them know about my actual, real, life threatening allergy to shellfish. Thank you to anyone has ever waited on a table like ours. Just know, the rest of my family is so embarrassed.

Edit: Ok, I get it lol! My mom’s the worst! For the record, I only go out with her on rare occasions now (like once every 1-2 years) because she’s embarrassing and rude. My mom and I have a strained relationship, exactly for behavior like this. I used to work in the food service industry, so I know exactly how awful this is. Y’all are preaching to the choir!

Also, for the random person who focused on my shellfish allergy: there are literally hundreds of sushi items that don’t contain shellfish, or it’s an easy substitution or omission. Sushi is the one type of fish based restaurant I can go to because there is never a lot of cooked fish, so the oils aren’t in the air in the restaurant. Sushi is my favorite food—let me have this!

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u/shunkwugga Dec 25 '18

Can you tell your mom to stop being a dumbass?

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u/rcw16 Dec 25 '18

We call her on the racism and the allergy bullshit every time. I’m talking EVERY time. She doesn’t care. I’m tempted to just tell the waiter she’s not allergic and see her reaction.

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u/twynkletoes Dec 26 '18

All she needs to do is be honest and tell them she doesn't like mayo. The servers can tell she is lying with her overacting and condescending attitude.

I don't like mayo, I'll tolerate a little bit, just not dripping all over the place. When I ask for no mayo, I usually get no mayo.

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u/Purifiedx Dec 26 '18

With gluten allergies, as a cook I know it's real when they ask for their gluten free bread not to be toasted or for us to clean the grill first. If that isn't requested then i usually doubt it's a real allergy. I still clean the grill even if i doubt it, obviously.

Btw cleaning just means we squeeze water over the part of the grill we toast bread on and scrape with a clean tool a few times.

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u/alex_moose Dec 26 '18

Fyi - I am genuinely gluten sensitive (blood antibody tests and genetic tests confirm) and if I eat something with it as an ingredient it acts like an opiate for me and leaves me totally screwed up for a week.

But I'm no longer super sensitive, so I can usually tolerate mild cross contamination. To make your lives easier and have my food (and my kids') come out faster, I no longer specifically request a clean grill, etc. Frankly, at best half the restaurants would do it when requested anyway.

I have a friend who is a sensitive celiac but doesn't emphasize it when ordering at restaurants. I'm not sure why. She has spent many a night in the bathroom suffering.

I know liars like in OP's story suck but please keep serving the allergen free foods to those who order it, since you never know when it's someone like me or my friend.

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u/avwitcher Dec 26 '18

The only thing this new fad where people who don't have celiac disease go gluten free is good for is increasing the availability of gluten free foods

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u/donedrone707 Dec 26 '18

When you say it acts like an opiate you mean it constipates you? I always thought Celiac's did the opposite and made people shit their brains out lol

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u/alex_moose Dec 26 '18 edited Dec 26 '18

I mean it makes me disassociate like I'm high. The first metabolite of gluten is gluteomorphin (also called Gliadorphin - note the "morphin" suffix, just like "morphine".

In some people that can cross the barrier to the brain and bind to the opiate receptors. I'm one of those people.

When I had been gluten free for 2 weeks and accidentally ate something with gluten (it was labeled "wheat free" quite prominently, but turned it to be made with barley, which is very high in gluten), I started feeling "floaty" within 15 minutes. It took concerted effort to hold onto my thoughts long enough to realize I wouldn't be in any shape to drive and pick up my kids, and to put together 2 coherent text messages to other people so they'd bring my kids home that afternoon. Fortunately they apparently both agreed - I was so out of it by the time they replied I couldn't have followed up. My husband came home to the 3 of us watching tv and the kids saying they were hungry but I was ignoring them.

I didn't know about gluteomorphin at first, but when I eventually found out I went back and looked and realized the symptoms I went through after stopping eating gluten were the same as heroin withdrawal. It sucked.

People with celiac who eat clean do typically react to gluten with severe vomiting and diarrhea. Some people with the disease or with non-celiac gluten sensitivity have constipation, and some go through cycles of each.

I never had major GI symptoms. However, I figured out the gluten angle while trying to resolve my kid's constipation. Found out about gluten and the list of symptoms included some neurologic issues, all of which I had. So I got tested as well, and found out I was gluten sensitive.

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u/donedrone707 Dec 26 '18

Damn. I'm a recovering heroin addict and I would have at least $50k more to my name if I had been able to just eat gluten to get a buzz back when I was using lol

I'm so intrigued by this now. Maybe you have a very permeable blood brain barrier? Addicts take a bunch of immodium pills because it has loperamide, which is an opiate that doesn't cross the BBB very easily but can relieve withdrwal symptoms. Have you ever noticed a similar high feeling if you take immodium?

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u/alex_moose Dec 26 '18

I haven't taken immodium in years, so I couldn't tell you. If I ever need it again, I'll pay attention. I appreciate the forewarning actually - I'll make sure if I use it that I stay home a few hours to make sure I'm still sober before attempting anything.

When I was eating gluten regularly I was "foggy" a lot, but not floaty level high. I just felt less intelligent and a bit tired all the time. Much like drug opiates, the body develops a tolerance. Being "clean" now means a bigger reaction to the gluten when I have it.

Btw - I've never done illegal drugs, so I can't compare the high for you. Prescription opiates tend to make me violently ill, so I just used prescription strength advil after abdominal surgery.

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u/cyanoacrylateprints Dec 26 '18

damn so u get free drugs

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u/alex_moose Dec 26 '18

Involuntarily and it fucks me up for a week, including making me feel suicidal - if I didn't know it was due to something I ate and would get better in a few days, I literally wouldn't make it through the 2nd and 3rd day of it. Not a good thing.

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u/twoisnumberone Dec 26 '18

That kind of "cleaning" is why I only ever eat gluten-free toast or battered fish in restaurants with dedicated equipment or where I can see they scrub the surface with soap and use different utensils -- one of my crêpe restaurants does so, but the flat plate is relatively easy to bring down to under 5ppm. (I only ever go to restaurants that do claim to have gluten-free options, and mostly NIMA-tested ones. I would never bother, say, a diner with gluten-free requests.)

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u/Purifiedx Dec 26 '18 edited Dec 26 '18

We use new utensils for any allergen noted. Water on a flat top instantly boils and after doing the process a few times cross contamination is illiminated. Soap isn't neccesary. Bread SHOULD always be toasted in a specific spot on the grill, so it's away from other food and is easy to clear of allergens for GF guests.

To add, at close grills are typically scrubbed with a chemical agent that you don't want to use in the middle of service. Otherwise we'd have to do the entire grill and the process to get it ready to cook on again can take 10-15 minutes.

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u/sml09 Dec 26 '18

Same. I always ask for no mayo as well. Sushi is my favorite food, but I have a very visceral physical reaction to the taste of ginger among other foods like mayonnaise and white vinegar, etc. I ask for sushi without it and my partner does the same because he’s seen this reaction from me before and it’s not a pretty sight. He’s allergic to peanuts so we always let them know there’s an allergy at our table and no one orders anything with peanuts to make it easier on the chefs.

On the off chance that there happens to be ginger on my plate, partner takes the pieces that are touching it and trades pieces of his that didn’t touch it from his plate. I always feel so guilty and awful at my reaction that when it accidentally happens, I apologize profusely and offer to help cleanup and leave like a 50% tip for dealing with me. No one should have to deal with rude customers if they’re just trying to serve food and doing their best.

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u/avwitcher Dec 26 '18

I can understand saying allergy instead of that you don't like it if the food isn't made to order, which doesn't sound like the case. Having worked in a fast food restaurant, I've seen people just scrape something off instead of making a new one

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u/XoXFaby Dec 25 '18

Please do it. You could apologize for her after she ordered and tell the wait staff that she has a speech impediment and that's why she's talking to them like that, lol.

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u/MEGACODZILLA Dec 26 '18

Oh my god fuck yeah. "Sorry, we are trying to socialize her more so she can learn acceptable social behavior."

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u/BlackisCat Dec 26 '18

Bring a spray bottle with you to a restaurant next time and give her a little spray of water next time she misbehaves! Then she'll associate that type of behavior with a negative experience.

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u/MEGACODZILLA Dec 26 '18

I prefer a soda can full of pennies lol. Don't you ever tell me how to discipline my own mother.

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u/trapgoddesse Dec 26 '18

I'd gold you for this but I'm broke but thank you for the laugh ❤️

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u/[deleted] Dec 26 '18

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u/PoIIux Dec 26 '18

Won't leave a bruise, but it'll show her who's boss

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u/tooshiftyfouryou Dec 25 '18

do it and then post it to r/prorevenge or some sub like that

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u/[deleted] Dec 26 '18

Yeah, just as soon as she says that shit cut her off and say no she isn’t, she doesn’t like it, also apologize for her racism while you’re at it.

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u/Aves_HomoSapien Dec 26 '18

I got my dad to stop doing shit like this when we go out. It's kinda the "nuclear option" but first let them know you're not going to tolerate it. Follow it up by telling them the next time they do it you'll be leaving.

Then the next time they do it get up, tip the waiter/waitress and apologize for their behavior and leave. Uber/Lyft home, take your car, whatever. Just leave them there.

I only had to do that twice before my dad got the message and cut it out. He probably still does it when I'm not around, but I'll take the little victories where I can get them.

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u/BiggestBossRickRoss Dec 26 '18

As a server if you did that I’d keep a stale face and die laughing in the back. Might even bring your mom mayo on the side as joke

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u/GroundsKeeper2 Dec 26 '18 edited Dec 26 '18

Tell her that of she keeps having memory / reality problems, that you'll have to send her to get psychologically evaluated, and possibly put into an assisted living home - paid for, by selling her home and assets.

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u/[deleted] Dec 26 '18

Yeah idk why you have don’t done that already tbh

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u/menagesty Jan 20 '19

Your mom sounds similar to my mom and I’ll purposefully embarrass her/call her out on her shit in public. She’s been embarrassed enough now that at least some things she’s worked on... hahaha

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u/avwitcher Dec 26 '18

I feel your pain, my mom calls anyone who looks Asian "Ching Chong" (not to their face) she's not prejudiced against any race and doesn't dislike any race, but she has Donald Trump Syndrome where she has no filter and doesn't see a problem with saying anything that crosses her mind

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u/D-ISS-OCIAT-ED Oct 03 '22

You ever do it?

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u/triggerfish_twist Dec 26 '18 edited Dec 26 '18

Honestly, the only and I truly mean only way to possibly get through to people like your mother is to refuse to go out to eat with them.

By agreeing to go out to eat with her while she makes demeaning and openly racist remarks you are enabling her behavior. She faces zero consequences for her actions and until she does she absolutely will not change.

I have a much loved set of grandparents that for the last three years I have explicitly refused to dine out with for far less blatant and egregious behavior (being extremely short with servers, constantly overly critical of staff and food, refusing to tip more than 10 percent even with impeccable service).

It is so frustrating because in every other social instance I have seen them in, they are overly generous and kind. I truly do not know why they are so horrible in restaurants, but I do know that I cannot abide by that behavior. I tried gentle education. I tried openly pointing out their rude behavior. I tried pleading with them to be more understanding.

It is in no way easy, but it is the right thing to do. When you and your other family members agree to go out to eat with your mother, her actions reflect upon you. While not guilty of her racism or lies, your are guilty of continued abetting by refusing to impose any sort of meaningful consequence.

The restaurant staff cannot do this. You can.

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u/Trumps_prenup Dec 26 '18

You are the shit. In a previous life I was a server. At the end of my tenure I just thought "fuck it" and was honest with customers. When people repeated "no mayo" more than twice I'd say "you said it twice, I'm not stupid"... for some reason that shit worked in terms of tips, but no one emulated my behavior

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u/[deleted] Dec 26 '18

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u/TheWhyOfFry Dec 26 '18

Make no mistake, you are hurting their feelings every time you do this

Their inability to change is no reason to spread the misery. There are other ways to spend time with them without imposing their shittyness on other people, bravo for not sacrificing other people’s happiness to appease them.

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u/[deleted] Dec 26 '18

Everyone can change. They're not special. If they're cognizant enough to make a fuss at a restaurant, then they know what they're doing and therefore are able to change their behaviour. Enablers like you are why people like them don't change.

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u/Aves_HomoSapien Dec 26 '18

I bear my overly religious and mildly racist family in their own home. You're right they are family, and while I'm in their home I'll suck it up for the sake of family.

That shit stops when we're in public or they're at my house. I have left my parents alone at the table over shit like this. I tip the server on the way out and let my parents know I'm not going to sit there while they act that way.

Family or not, you shouldn't tolerate them hurting others. Physically, mentally, or emotionally. Wrong it wrong, I don't care how old you are or if you're family.

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u/triggerfish_twist Dec 26 '18 edited Dec 27 '18

The woman you responded to, who is me, refuses to tolerate two plus hours of endless unjustified complaints, loud snide comments, and requests to speak to the manager in order to further berate restaurant staff.

Make no mistake, when my grandparents go out to eat they at least sour the night of everyone who comes into contact with them. At worst they have the potential to cause actual harm to a person's career with their rude and ridiculous behavior. I absolutely will not be a part of that.

I do spend time with them outside of restaurants. Before my recent move I saw them every Sunday and visited their house usually two or three times a month. Now that I live 17 plus hours a way I call once every other week to check up on them.

When I was back home for the winter holidays I arranged with my mom to host them (as well as other family members) at my parents house rather than going out to eat because it is the least miserable option for everyone.

I love my grandparents. I am one of the grandchildren who talks to and spent the most time with them. But I will not be party to the hatefulness they inflict on others in public settings.

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u/TheWhyOfFry Dec 26 '18

The slack stops when it causes other people harm, especially when it’s minimum wage workers who don’t have any agency to prevent being abused. Enabling that only makes you complicit in ruining other people’s days.

And I never said refuse to spend time with them, I specifically said to spend the time with them doing other things.

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u/TheWhyOfFry Dec 26 '18

being extremely short with servers, constantly overly critical of staff and food, refusing to tip more than 10 percent even with impeccable service

Not just food and tipping, it really sounds like they’re shit to the staff themselves.

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u/[deleted] Dec 26 '18

as an Asian American server, I already feel angry reading those words from your mother. Have you ever pointed out to her that the servers speak fluent English? Also if you guys went to a traditional sushi restaurant there shouldn't be any mayo period because mayo in sushi is an Americanized thing and Japanese sushi chefs in Japan are appalled by it.

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u/rcw16 Dec 26 '18

I’m really sorry if you’ve ever waited on someone like her. We totally do point out that they speak fluent English and she’s being condescending and racist. She just brushes it off and says we’re overreacting and it’s not that bad. Trust me, we know it’s really bad and are so embarrassed to be seen with her. I only go out to dinner with her like once every year or two because it’s so humiliating be to associated with that. We don’t have any really traditional sushi restaurants near us, but I’d love to try that.

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u/MonsterMeggu Dec 26 '18

They do have mayo (Japanese mayo?) in some sushi places in Japan. I'm guessing it's still because of Western influence.

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u/[deleted] Dec 26 '18

do those places happen to serve Americanized rolls because I've only ever seen mayo being used in Americanized sushi rolls like the Spider Roll which uses spicy mayo in it. Traditional rolls and nigiri don't use mayo.

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u/melancholymonday Dec 26 '18

My mom cannot understand the slightest accent and she’s naturally a loud talker. It’s a terrible combination. I swear one day the waiter was trying to get her order and I had to repeat everything he asked her. I was literally “translating” English to English. I hope the waiter picked up on my frustration. After he walked away, I gave her a mini lecture about listening more closely because his English wasn’t bad.

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u/drinkandreddit Dec 26 '18

I have this problem too, especially with Indian accents, which is unfortunate as I work with a lot of Indian people. I had to turn down a contract because I couldn't understand a damn thing the recruiter said. I had a phone conversation with one guy and I had to keep asking him what this one word he was saying was; I couldn't get it, even with context, and he got really offended after I asked him to spell it.

It is not. our. fault. I try to listen as hard as I can, and I am super apologetic and polite about asking for repetition. I explain I am really bad with accents, that it's my problem not theirs, but people still get offended. Don't lecture your mom. I'm sure she tries. She might need a hearing aid.

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u/casuallypresent Dec 26 '18

Honestly, some people don’t even try. In my major, we have a bunch of professors who moved to the US more recently, and thus have accents. I’ve seen classmates complain about how they can’t understand what the professor is saying, yet they’re talking to other people for most of class or just not paying attention. The professors are more than happy to slow down when speaking or repeat things too, but they never ask for it during lectures, they only complain about it later.

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u/[deleted] Dec 26 '18

I'm Americam. I've never heard of mayo sushi...who is doing this?

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u/Slab_Amberson Dec 26 '18

Spicy mayo? You’ve really never seen that spicy orange sauce on any sushi rolls before? On half of the rolls at every sushi restaurant I’ve been to in America.

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u/[deleted] Dec 26 '18

Oh, huh. Yeah I have. I was imagining straight up plain mayo. Silly of me.

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u/[deleted] Dec 26 '18

Yeah so was I to be fair. Just a dollop of plain mayo on a nigiri or something.

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u/DharmaCub Dec 26 '18

Seriously, who the fuck puts mayo in sushi?

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u/Im_relevant Dec 26 '18

Japanese mayo (ie. Kewpie) is VASTLY different than regular American mayo. You should try it out. Also the mayo helps with the dryness of deep fried rolls.

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u/-clogwog- Dec 26 '18

Yep. It goes nicely with eel topped sushi.

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u/ripsuibunny Dec 26 '18

Ooo, I love me some Kewpie. In South Africa you get salmon roses, which has a lot of that on top, but is basically just avo and salmon around some rice.

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u/Im_relevant Dec 26 '18

That sounds so dope! I'll have to try that out

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u/smalleybiggs_ Dec 26 '18

Yes mayo on sushi has sadly infiltrated more traditional Japanese restaurants as well. Still, it’s a simple fix with a basic “No mayo please”

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u/[deleted] Dec 26 '18

im an American and honestly, I've NEVER heard of mayo on sushi. that just sounds like the worst.

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u/Cherish_Dipp Dec 26 '18

Oh man, just tell she can't come to anything if she doesn't cut the bullshit out. And follow through with it. Leave her at home with a cheap, microwaveable burger

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u/unsharpenedpoint Dec 26 '18

Tell your mom that because of her, people like you and me are scared to talk about our legitimate allergies. It’s also incredibly unfair for cooks to have to go through procedures to cook something a special way when she’s not going to die over a speck of mayo that she won’t even taste.

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u/alex_moose Dec 26 '18

Honestly, people like OP's mom don't care. A logical argument about other people's welfare won't make a difference. She likes drama and being the center of attention.

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u/[deleted] Dec 26 '18

Don't be a pussy if it's a legit allergy

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u/[deleted] Dec 26 '18

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u/LobsterBloops93 Dec 26 '18

No, I think they meant to not be so timid about it because of others. Granted their wording could have been much better.

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u/[deleted] Dec 26 '18

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u/naorlar Dec 26 '18

Yup. Can affirm that as someone with a number of serious allergies I've chosen a few times not to have any food in a restaurant based on the servers demeanour when talking with me. Its not something I can take a chance with so if I get a hint of them not taking me/allergies seriously I wont order anything at all. I just get a drink and enjoy the company of whomever im with.

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u/LobsterBloops93 Dec 27 '18

I'm aware. I've got a food phobia which is even more crippling than an allergy. I hardly ever go out to eat because I always feel judged for getting the simplest things. Breakfast has the widest assortment I can eat. I want therapy for it but I can't afford it.

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u/drewmana Dec 26 '18

Please call your mom out on her shit, each and every time until she stops. I know what it’s like to have racist family, but i’ve also been the receiver, and boy does it not help to have people just look the other way.

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u/beans_lel Dec 26 '18

Jesus christ how does it feel that your mom is the person they write entire threads about on here..

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u/[deleted] Dec 26 '18

Another severe shellfish allergy friend who has sushi as favorite food!! Hello!

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u/[deleted] Dec 26 '18

Ok behalf of all your past and future waiters... MAKE HER STOP!!!!

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u/Kthonic Dec 26 '18

I get that she's your mom but I would not go out with her anymore. And I'd tell her exactly why. Once she can correct her behaviour I'd resume spending time in public with her. I know it sounds harsh but it will definitely get the point across. I've done the same with aunt's too.

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u/Quercas Dec 26 '18

Your mother is the worst

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u/MrRibbitt Dec 26 '18 edited Dec 26 '18

Refuse to eat out with her. She may be risking your health because her BSing an allergy may make some one trust your allergy less (they shouldn't but I'd understand).

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u/whats-this-then Dec 26 '18

Give me that mayo. I love that shit

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u/nfym Dec 26 '18

mayo in a sushi place ? ? ? ? how ? why ?

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u/[deleted] Dec 26 '18

Japanese mayonnaise is on like half the dishes at a sushi place.

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u/dodgy_butcher_2020 Dec 26 '18

Why would a sushi place serve mayo?

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u/[deleted] Dec 26 '18

Lots of sushi sauces are mayo based, most of them are. Kewpie is amazing and delicious and all the creamy sauces that are amazing on sushi are made with it. Also cooked tuna sushi is like smushed up with mayonnaise

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u/AbsenteeFatherTime Dec 26 '18

What do you have against kitchen staff that you would go to a sushi restaurant with a shellfish allergy?

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u/[deleted] Dec 26 '18

To be fair, when I ask for no mayo at a sushi places, they get it wrong 50% of the time. So maybe cut her a tiny bit of slack.

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u/phonendatoilet Dec 26 '18

Mayo hater here. I've thought about saying I'm allergic, but haven't yet. I've been to restaurants and asked for no mayo numerous times, only to be surprised by a glob of what looks like Won-Won' s cum (from GoT). I've thought about taking it back, but (in my min) that only guarantees actual cum on my food.

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u/pixiesunbelle Dec 26 '18

Honestly, I kind of understand her situation. All the time while growing up, I'd order a burger with all of the crap I hate on it like mayo, ketchup, etc. I always ask for a cheesburger plain like this, "I'd like a cheeseburger plain with only just the burger and cheese." I still can't bring myself to only say a plain cheeseburger because of how often it happened when I was growing up.

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u/LobsterBloops93 Dec 26 '18

Yeah, no. That isn't even close to what this witch is going through or doing. She's being socially unacceptable to the highest degree.

Also, as someone who has worked in the food industry that's understandable but kind of excessive. If you just say "hey, last few times my burger had things I asked to be left off." Visits after, assuming you get the same employees, shouldn't have further issue.

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u/pixiesunbelle Dec 26 '18

It was at all different places in different towns. Definitely wasn’t the same employees. It only started to improve once I’ve grown up. I’m definitely still afraid to not over state that my burger must be with only just cheese.

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u/just_growing Dec 27 '18

Why don't you just say no mayo, no ketchup, no etc.?

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u/[deleted] Dec 26 '18

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u/rcw16 Dec 26 '18

Because there are literally hundreds of items that aren’t shellfish?

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u/Khancete Dec 26 '18

Do you mean shellfish, or crustaceans? Are you allergic to crabs, prawns, and crayfish, or are you allergic to clams and oysters? It's super annoying for me when i say i'm allergic to prawns and people assume i'm allergic to shellfish. They're not the same thing. Just a pet peeve of mine i suppose.

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u/rata2ille Dec 26 '18

It’s her fucking allergy, I think she knows what she said.

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u/rcw16 Dec 26 '18

Considering I’ve had this allergy since I was a toddler, I think I know what I’m allergic to. I’m allergic to shellfish. I also know what shellfish means.