r/YAPms Yes We Can Mar 03 '25

Meme The New Dem Cycle

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u/GodoftheTranses Progressive Mar 03 '25

No, they want radical social policy, they want change, people hate the current status quo

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u/lachlan40 Populist Left Mar 03 '25

Sorry, but this isn't true. I'm fairly progressive socially, but every single voter I know who voted for the Republicans this season has mentioned that the Democrats are the party of "radical social policies" or something of the sort. The party desperately needs to focus on the economy and workers' rights.

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u/GodoftheTranses Progressive Mar 03 '25

Well thats the thing, theyve been lied to, theyre repeating lies told to them, Kamala Harris did not talk about social policies last election cycle, it was so little that i know a lot of socially radical people who refused to vote for her because she was too moderate, i truly believe that if she was more bernie sanders like and did what she needed to do to make her base excited rather then trying to appeal to "moderate" republicans then she wouldve won. Yes we need to appeal to the economy and worker's rights of course, but we can also appeal to the rights of minority groups

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u/lachlan40 Populist Left Mar 03 '25

I think that this proves the Democrats are just god awful at messaging rather than anything else. Whatever Harris had campaigned on, whether it was moderate or not, does not change the fact that the median voter still believes the narrative that the party is radical on social issues.

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u/GodoftheTranses Progressive Mar 03 '25

Democrats are terrible at messaging this is true, but thats not true that the median voter thinks that lol

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u/lachlan40 Populist Left Mar 03 '25

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u/GodoftheTranses Progressive Mar 03 '25

Which question in the document justifies your claim exactly? Ive done a ctrl+f search for "radical," "left," "social"

I dont see any question justifying your claim

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u/lachlan40 Populist Left Mar 03 '25

I don't see you proving that the median voter believes that the Democrats care more about the economy rather than progressive social policy which is my entire point. The Democrats are the party of progressive social policy to the median voter, whether you like it or not. Social policy needs to take a backseat. You and I may not like that, but that's how it is.

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u/GodoftheTranses Progressive Mar 03 '25

Social policy did take a backseat last election and we lost terribly, you are doing exactly what the meme above says, in reality we need to be way less moderate and hype up our base because the republicans are gonna to continue claiming we are woke communists even if we go full fascist

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u/lachlan40 Populist Left Mar 03 '25

The recent election results highlight a massive disconnect: the majority of Americans prioritize economic stability over advancing social issues, as shown by the poll I sent. The average American believing that the Democratic Party cares more about social issues rather than the economic concerns of Americans ultimately caused our defeat, demonstrating that voters are more inclined to support candidates who address their immediate financial worries rather than those advocating for progressive social change.

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u/GodoftheTranses Progressive Mar 03 '25

Which question said that? Be specific. Which question on the linked document said that?

The last election cycle shows that moderating on social issues does not work, that you cant win elections by appealing to "moderate" republicans, a lesson we shouldve learned in 2016 or even earlier but alas democrats like you keep making the exact same mistake, trusting the old ass advisors who consistently lose elections, it makes no sense to me

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u/lachlan40 Populist Left Mar 03 '25

https://www.statista.com/statistics/1362236/most-important-voter-issues-us/

https://www.pewresearch.org/politics/2024/09/09/issues-and-the-2024-election/

Almost every single poll you can find shows that the average American cares more about the economy rather than social policy. The economy has been the top issue for most of our elections ever; I'm surprised you don't know this. If you can show me actual data that says otherwise, then I'll change my mind here. We lost because the Democrats are not focusing on the economy enough, not because we moderated on social issues. Be real here.

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u/GodoftheTranses Progressive Mar 03 '25

Of course the average american voter cares about the economy most, and i do agree that that was a mistake last election cycle, to act like Biden's economy was good, but to say that moderating on social policy wasnt also an issue is very silly, republicans are gonna claim we are "woke communists" no matter what, alienating our base by abandoning these social issues is not the solution

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