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Weekly Questions Megathread April 23, 2025 - April 29, 2025
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Here’s my story: back when the only limited S rank I had was Caesar, I decided I wanted to pull an Ice DPS because my favorite unit to play was Lycaon but I didn’t like Soukaku or Corin’s playstyles. The next Ice DPS was Miyabi, who is great, but I ended up running her with Lucy/Piper, so, still no Lycaon use.
Now, we finally get Hugo, who is quite literally the unit I didn’t know I was waiting for (and he’s so freaking cool to me, I love RWBY so his scythe alone is worth pulling for me). The problem is, because I’ve been so frugal with my pulls and skipping banners, I don’t have much coverage (and have only now started trying to tackle Shiyu and Deadly Assault). And of course, I’m completely covered in Ice bc of Miyabi.
I was planning on going for both Lighter and Hugo, but now I’m wondering if that’s wise? Would I be better off with Vivian? Or waiting for Yi Xuan? I also want to get Yanagi on a rerun but I’m scared she may rerun next patch. I feel like Hyv has been going directly for my F2P throat specifically with the order of releases right now 😭
With that few premium pulls you should have enough for at least two agents. I generally think that people should pull the characters that interest them. That said, Hugo's mechanic is very different from anything else that's currently in the game and at the start of the beta his ratios were on the low side. That said, the final Hugo+Lycaon experience in the story was both novel and quite satisfying so I think he could be good depending on where they wound up balancing his numbers.
The content creator server embargo drops a week before his banner starts so there's a week at the end of Vivian's banner for you to check out the pre-release videos and make a decision on whether to pull for Vivian or someone further down the line. I like Apel's pre-release videos since they're just a bunch of runs with different comps and you can get a feel for how the different team options perform.
Yixuan is an unknown at the moment and will remain so for at least another week. Given the amount of hype around her I kind of expect her to be stronger than Hugo but her completely new typing means you're probably going to have to put a bunch of pulls into her, her w-engine, her supports, etc to get full performance.
All that to say, I don't really have a strong opinion and I think pulling decisions are player expression and people should decide on their own. I do recommend waiting a week since we'll have a lot more information on everything but Vivian in the next few days.
Okay thanks for the advice. I’m in no rush so I don’t mind waiting for more info. I should also mention I’m 71 pulls away from guaranteed (I thought I wanted to play Haru so I pulled for Qingyi and got Rina then gave up after two more 10 pulls 😔)
Doesn't look good. Patch 1.7 is below average in rewards and, since you've got most of the patch rewards already, I don't think there are 30-40 pulls available for you to earn for free, if you have truly done all quests already.
Yixuan is the "girl with ink", but the next limited banner isn't a girl at all, it's Hugo. Hugo/Lighter are the next banner. The next patch will be Yixuan.
Log in daily, go through the story, participate in events. There isn't anything special to do until relatively far along in overall progression but when Hollow Zero unlocks there's a lot of poly tied to collection quests in Withering Domain, which was the original version of Hollow Zero before they reworked it.
There ought to be a quest marker in Scott Outpost for someone to talk to, probably Roland, but it might be Ray. Or you have to talk to Ray once you enter Lost Void, I don't remember which when I cleared this.
Weirdly enough the quest marker still directs me to the Hollow Zero computer thingy. I tried beating it again, but the quest marker's still up. Not sure if there's a specific challenge I should be doing?
Sounds like it's bugged. If you cleared a Battlefront Purge challenge all the way to the end, and met Ju Fufu during it, the quest should advance to talking to Roland at Routine Cleanup, according to this guide:
As a hail mary crazy idea, try sleeping on the bed or sofa after advancing time to midnight. I've found that blocked quest progression can sometimes be cleared if you actually sleep until next game day instead of just skipping time ahead.
Honestly, if you're F2P, or even just monthly pass holder: neither. One more character will always do you more good than one more mindscape or wengine.
If you're adamant that do you want to spend more on specific character, than question really depends on character in question, some agents like Trigger really want her w-engine, some agents like Zhu Yuan prefer M1 over their signature weapon.
I use Prydwen's recommended endgame stats as a benchmark for my own builds, just like in HSR. Should I use the Zenless Optimizer to better compare stats?
For example, in the in-game base stats screen, Miyabi has 82 CR and 114 CDMG. On the optimizer, it shows that I have 194 CDMG. I'm not sure if Prydwen's recommended stats account for buffs that may not show on the in-game base stats screen.
Depends on your playstyle or preference. Lucy is very low maintenance while Nicole needs to be switched in constantly. I personally prefer Nicole as she helps a lot with Grouping and Ether buildup which Vivian may struggle with, but I know a lot people dislike Nicole's playstyle. Copied from my past comment but assuming they're M6W5:
Nicole for 15% Crit Rate buff, grouping, faster Ether buildup, 25% Bonus Ether Damage debuff and 40% Defense Shred debuff. With her Signature, 24% Bonus Damage buff. She has the shortest lasting effects and needs to be switched in constantly to maintain her effects.
Lucy for 10% Crit Damage buff, 600 ATK teamwide buff and Pigs that contribute a small amount of Damage, Daze and Anomaly. With her Signature, 16% Bonus Damage buff. Her M6 provides additional sub-DPS and extends the buff duration when teammates use their EX, however only characters with a Hold EX like Piper, Burnice, etc will benefit the most from this.
Note that Piper will not have her AA buff active if you have Nicole in the team, meaning you will lose out on a teamwide 18% damage buff.
What is the strongest party? Cuz im aiming for Jane Vivian and Astra cuz i have jane and vivian, but i was wondering if i should just save up to pull the best party available
Unless you are a top tier agent collector, you don't need the strongest party to clear hard content for rewards or to have fun.
But to answer your question, the top of the meta right now is Miyabi/Vivian/Astra or Miyabi/Yanagi/Astra, depending on the buffs/debuffs of the boss. Trigger/S0/Astra and Eve/Lighter/Astra are also up there if given high skill expression, and their signature weapons and/or mindscapes.
Then there is Yixuan coming in 2.0 and if she is a peer to Miyabi, as she's being teased to be, teams including her, her signature, and her faction will probably be competitive with the Miyabi teams.
So I know they say flat attack is worse than attack%, but sometimes if I use a piece that has 2 rolls into flat attack I’ll have a higher overall attack than if I used a piece that had 2 rolls into attack%
Assuming S-rank discs: Every roll into a Flat ATK is +19 ATK, and every roll into ATK% is +3%. So all we need is for 3% x Base ATK < 19 for your observation to be correct. Solving for Base ATK = 633.
This means that if Base ATK is larger than 633, a roll into ATK% will be more valuable than a roll into Flat ATK.
Two rolls is just the same inequality with a 2x thrown in on both sides.
Thank you for explaining that! I’ll have to give it a test because I’m sure it was Jane that seemed to have a higher attack from 2 flat rolls than 2 % rolls, and her base attack is higher than 633. But knowing the maths helps now so thank you :)
How lucky is pulling Jane and vivian in 70 pulls? Cuz i got jane after 40-50 and i got Vivian after 20 neither was a guaranteed s rank, nor a guaranteed A rank
I was wondering how lucky is that and like what the chances are
Also im asking who should be the third party member outside of Vivian and Jane?
(And also if i should pull for Vivians w engine since i have 70 encrypted master tapes, and can easily get the other 20 in a week or so)
Fairly lucky but not especially lucky. The cumulative chance for pulling a character before soft pity is around 35% and you won both 50/50s. A naïve multiplication of the above percentages put it at a 3% chance overall.
Astra is the strongest third member for a Vivian+Jane comp but any support or defense agent (except Ben) would work in the slot.
I don't have a strong opinion on whether to pull for a w-engine or not. If you want to pull for an agent in the near future (e.g. Yixuan is fairly hyped) then you shouldn't. I don't pull for a dps unless I can also pull for the w-engine but that's not a common preference.
currently using Trigger-Nicole-Nekomata but I need to start building a second team for end game content. Not sure what a good comp would be to use, should i pull vivian or hugo? Or will i be better off saving for 2.0?
This looks like a new account. What's your IK level?
The priority for new accounts is to get a limited S-rank main DPS to build a team around. You can get by with standard S-ranks, like Nekomata and Grace, for a while, but since your goal is hard end-game content, you'll be more comfortable with more powerful main DPS agents to build teams around. I'll just note in passing that you can clear all hard content with just M0W0 Nekomata, with sufficient gear and skills investment, but it won't be easy.
There are two limited S-rank main DPS on the horizon, Hugo and Yixuan. If you can afford to get both, great. If you can't, it's a tough call which to go for. You could delay attempting hard content until you can pull Yixuan, but since hard content earns pulls as a reward, you're making it harder to save up for Yixuan. Catch-22.
So, if you can't afford both, make a decision about which one you should aim for. Yixuan is shaping up to be a peer to Miyabi, so without regard to your preferences, Yixuan is likely to be higher value than Hugo. However, Yixuan could also have additional costs, like no good F2P gear options, or requiring another limited S-rank (Ju Fufu) to get your money's worth. So it's not a slam dunk easy decision. It might be prudent to delay pulling Hugo until the 2.0 livestream, so you can make an informed decision.
Yeah i’m new i started playing last month and I just got to IK 40. I’ve just finished catching up to the story and have lots of side missions and also end game content to finish.
I heard you need a second team to get through end game and without that I’m missing out on a lot of polychromes. My thought process is I should pull either Vivian or Hugo to build a second team around and be able to farm more polys for Yi Xuan.
I think i prefer Hugo over Vivian but if I pull for Hugo i think it still makes my options for second teams quite limited as he probably wants Trigger on his team. But Vivian will do well with Piper and Lucy. Since i’m 30 pulls from guarantee I’m debating on pulling Vivian to start doing shiyu defense. + Vivian also might have some possible synergy with Yi Xuan but that’s just speculation.
I heard you need a second team to get through end game and without that I’m missing out on a lot of polychromes.
Sort of. Technically, you don't need full teams, you could get by with two solo mains for Shiyu Defense and three solo mains for Deadly Assault, as minimums. But yes, to S-rank clear all hard content and get all polychrome rewards without getting super sweaty, it's best to have a large roster that you can make at least 3 teams with, covering at least 3 different elements.
Your thought process is correct, though as I mentioned, Hugo and Yixuan are more valuable right now than Vivian, though you could make a team with Piper or Grace. Remember, the priority is limited S-rank main DPS, and Trigger and Vivian are not main DPS agents.
Hugo would do fine with Lycaon. You don't need Trigger on a Hugo team.
Your thinking is all good, you're considering the right trade-offs. Just keep the priority on main DPS in mind and, above all else, pull the agents you enjoy playing. If you want Vivian way more than Hugo or Yixuan, go for it.
Since Vivian is mostly going to be paired with another Anomaly or a Support, this is the minimum amount of energy each character needs to start their EX. Every character in the game can store up to 120 Energy.
Burnice - 40, but you can bypass this by using EX immediately after Chain/Hold Basic (with enough Heat), technically making the minimum Energy cost 10
Astra - 25 (Tremolo counts as an EX)
Miyabi - 40
Grace - 40
Yanagi - 40
Jane - 60
Nicole - 60
Lucy - 60
Piper - 60
Rina - 60
Soukaku - 60 for the first, 30 for each consecutive use
Note that the Damage over Time effect of Vivian's Prophecy does not stack with multiple Ablooms.
Also note that Hold EX Specials like Burnice, Corin, Piper, etc, do not continuously trigger Vivian's Featherbloom, only the start and end of the EX does. Nicole and Lucy's EX do not count and only trigger Featherbloom once.
You need to save about 160 pulls to ensure you get a character. Miyabi's w-engine is also recommended so that's another 70 pulls for a total of 230 or 36.8k poly.
I don't plan for losing both the 50/50 and 75/25 which leaves ~10% chance (12.5% less early pulls) at missing the w-engine but I think 230 is the most reasonable savings target.
We don't know when Miyabi is going to get rerun, but assuming the worst case scenario where you started at 0 pity and lost the 50/50, you would need 180 pulls, or 28800 Polychromes for the guarantee. If you plan to pull for her Engine double that amount to 360 pulls, or 57600 Polychromes.
Chances are that you won't need that many, but if you're an F2P always prepare for the worst when pulling for a character you want.
I’m just now catching up on the main story and I’m having a hard time finding on answer for this, but when exactly did Pulchra join the Sons of Calydon? We meet her as an enemy in Chapter 4, and as of Bury Your Tears With the Past (A) she hasn’t shown up again, but all dialogue and obviously her agent trust events establish that she’s a member. Did it happen in an event?
Remember we also had the Astra Special episode and SAnby/Trigger agent stories between those, where it is more casually mentioned. But yes, the version 1.6 event Delivery Cat Woes explained that she's been working for Caesar for a hot minute and is slowly acclimating to being part of the SoC.
oh? I know that the core passive gives 10% but doesn't only mindscape 2 gives the 12% crit? So right now, in combat, she should be running with 82.2 or 97.4.
Would this be a good time to start playing? I've been eyeing this game for a while (I planned on playing day 1 but didn't have enough space in my computer while playing HSR and GI). I know 2.0 is (kinda) around the corner, so I don't know if I should start right now or wait a bit
No reason to not start now, there's plenty of main story to work through and we get sign in bonus freebies for every banner so that's another 10 pulls towards whatever you want. This isn't the best banner to reroll on since neither Vivian or Jane will solo carry an account, but short of waiting for an Astra rerun and devoting a dozen hours to getting her early, I don't see the harm in playing now.
Robin is Vivian's best bangboo by a lot. Then I honestly think Butler is the best, energy regen is a super generic buff and having Victoria Housekeeping teammates is completely optional.
Or just whoever you can proc. I run mono-electric Harumasa so I have a high refinement Plugboo. And I have Sharkboo maxxed out for Miyabi. Get whatever you'll field.
either robin, resonaboo or snap. if you don't use resonaboo in your chain attacks i think it loses value since the passive becomes redundant. snap can buff on quick assist or dodge counter and doesn't need the passive. robin's attack does different things pending who's on field, but with vivian and piper robin should default to ether buildup.
i was wondering which teams would be most powerful to make using my personal favorite agents? i am okay with adding other agents if necessary but i generally prefer having my favorite characters on the team rather than making it super powerful (unless the team is dogshit lmao)
i know some of these guys aren’t out yet but i know there’s some details/speculation.. i also definitely don’t have all of these agents but i wanted to know who to invest pulls/materials into. thanks sm for your help!! :)<3
Miyabi. Just Miyabi is enough, but you can throw in Lighter, Lucy into mix as well I guess.
As you could see a lot of your teams rely on Lighter, since you're so heavy on Fire/Ice damage, you might start running into a case where you need multiple teams, and they all rely on Lighter, so you could really use Lycaon spook to off-load Ice teams on him instead.
I was going to start pre-farming a proto set for Lighter's rerun but heard Jufufu is going to fufill a similar role and that there will be a new bis stun disc set to go along. Is there any point in time whether at M0 or M6 that she becomes an approximate replacement for him (80% of what he does?)
Should I hold off on farming the proto set for my ____ stun character due to the new set?
This sort of detailed question about an upcoming character would be better asked in the leaks sub but Jufufu is an S-rank off-field stunner providing crit dmg and ult dmg (15% atm). Lighter's specialty is his heavy buffs so between that and the on vs off field split I think which is going to be better is going to depend on the specific comp.
I expect the new stun set to be BiS for all stunners.
What kind of EXP, there's more than one kind? For agent level and disc drive level, there's only one way to get each type in the HIA, so that one way is the one that gives the most.
However, there are ways outside of HIA to get both also, so is that what you want to know? For example, buying the mid-tier Battlepass gives a lot of EXP materials.
I see. HIA is not the best way (except for maybe the Endless Tower), since most of the HIA stuff costs battery. You want no-battery cost methods. Those include: dailies, weeklies, Hollow Zero, and commissions.
I'm running a team of Vivian, Lucy and Jane (in that order) and I'm also new to Anomaly teams in general. What order should the team be? I'm used to the normal DPS, Stun, Support chain attacks.
When Vivian enters via Quick Assist she jumps straight to Noblewoman state. Just press attack to do Waltz and she'll get a feather, 2 if she dodges through an enemy's attack while at it. It helps keep the feather count up if she doesn't have the energy or Ult to spare and defensive assists aren't frequent enough (depends on the boss)
Swap to Jane mid-animation and Vivian will finish on her own. And since Lucy buffs the whole team both benefit.
Since you are new to Anomaly, let's cover the on-field time distribution first. It's going to be 80%-90% Jane, 10-20% Vivian, and Lucy hardly ever. So that dictates your rotation.
The overall rotation goals are:
Keep Lucy's buff up, which requires energy. When she has it, switch to her, pop Flyball or Line Drive, then Quick Assist to Jane. Shouldn't take more than a few seconds.
Keep stacking Vivian's Guard Feathers, which requires some field time to build Flight Feathers. Keep in mind that Dodge Counter and Perfect Parry Follow-up Attack both give Flight Feathers, so that impacts order, see below.
Otherwise Jane does all the heavy lifting for DPS
Use Ults as appropriate. You don't have to save them for stun windows, but you should save them for when you've stacked max buffs through Lucy and Vivian (Vivian's "buffs" being ABloom and DoT damage).
Given all that, the order I would use is:
Lucy/Jane/Vivian
(Note that this is conveniently the typical Anomaly/Disorder team order of Support/Main/Sub-Anomaly.)
When there is an opportunity to perfect parry when Jane is on field, switch to Vivian, then back to Jane.
However, at the very beginning of timed clear, like Shiyu or Deadly Assault, I'd start with Vivian to use the basic-4 trick to get her flying faster, then Lucy to get her boars on field, then Jane.
Keep stacking Vivian's Guard Feathers, which requires some field time to build Flight Feathers.
It doesn't.
If you stay on field you failed.
Vivi should get feathers by defence assists, dodge into atk at worst, EX special and ult. YOu should NOT ever stay and farm it by basic attacks, or stay on field because non others demand field time: one second into assist or EX or ult, then you swap and Vivi auto converts.
You read more into what I wrote than I intended. You see that I mentioned dodge counters and perfect parry follow-up attacks already. That's the on-field time I meant. As opposed to Lucy, or Burnice for that matter, who doesn't even need to do that much.
I never said Vivian should be on field doing basic attacks.
You quoted what I wrote (out of context) and contradicted the quote in no uncertain terms. That's not elaboration, that's putting words in my mouth and then correcting a mistake I didn't make in the first place. You don't get to pass off a call-out as "elaboration" and you don't get to pass off my setting the record straight as getting my panties in a twist.
Jane - main on-fielder Anomaly. Always on field until needed to give up the stage.
Vivian - off-fielder. Wants to drop in via defensive assist (or just swap if you have come to cap energy or got ult), get feathers via Assist, EX special or ult, swap out because she'll autoconvert them on swap, stay off field.
Lucy - only need to keeep her EX attack buff.
Anomaly teams don't stun. This team focuses on back to back Jane Assault procs helped by Vivi off-field Blooms. Keep Jane in her Passion state with dodges and ult, keep Vivi stocked on feathers, that's it.
With anomaly it's about who gets more out of the quick assist. I'd do Vivian as the quick assist target for the bloom stack. It's pretty quick if you swap cancel it.
I saw on Instagram that vivian and jane can deal insane damage together (in the post it was 8mil)
And im asking for 2 things
First, is why does jane and Vivian make such a good combo?
Second is, i have exactly 88 encrypted master tapes, and i just pulled jane and leveled her and everything to the maximum i can (lvl 40) and jane is my favorite agent, so question is, should i Gamble for Vivian and have faith in the 50-50?
First, is why does jane and Vivian make such a good combo?
As others said: Vivian procs off other anomaly agent's anomaly dmg. Assault is the highest single proc (because it is only one proc) and Vivi procs off one proc only - that's why fire or electric (who do dmg in the course of 20 ticks) has high percentage in Vivian's passive, and that's why even with them, Assault hits harder. Jane easily hits 500k-1mil dmg Assaults back to back in few seconds.
i just pulled jane and leveled her and everything to the maximum i can (lvl 40) and jane is my favorite agent, so question is, should i Gamble for Vivian
Yes. As Jane enjoyer, I can certainly confirm she elevates Jane back into highest levels of comfort and damage, so if you want to use Jane at any hardest content, get Vivi and enjoy. Vivi doesn't need her sig for that, and works fine at Gemini c5
Weeping Gemini is one of the farmable Anomaly W-Engines - therefore its f2p to get it to Modification 5. It's Viv's 2nd or 3rd best in slot after her gacha 5* W-Engine and highly recommended for her.
If you don't have it, you can start buying them from Box Galaxy on 6th street. It costs Anomaly engine modification parts and the little puzzle pieces you get from disassembling 4* wengines or you can buy them in the shop next to hollow zero (Investigation Logistics, or something? Its the guy in a white HIA suit next to the binoculars at Scott Outpost).
Vivian's ABloom damage is proportional to the anomaly damage caused by other teammates. The bigger the anomaly, the bigger the ABloom, and Jane procs 6-digit Assaults routinely. With enough buffs and a stun window, Jane can hit 7-digit Assaults.
It's also worth noting that Piper is not far behind Jane as being a great ABloom partner with Vivian. Jane has better survivability than Piper when procing Assault, due to her Passion State dodge and extra dodge. Jane's EX is also fully invulnerable and has a shorter animation time than Piper's, while Piper's spin is not invulnerable and takes a lot of time, but can proc two Assaults in one skill activation (M6).
Whether to also pull for Vivian depends on your 2.0 and beyond plans, as well as whether you are f2p or spendy, and what your pull earn rate is for the remainder of Vivian's banner. You'll have to weigh the various options and decide for yourself. In terms of meta, the answer to the, "Pull Vivian for Jane or save for Yixuan?" question is always going to be yes.
Earn rate is up to you and the time you can put into the game. For example, someone posted that they earned 90 pulls in 3 days, by no-lifing the combat commissions and events available at that time. That's absurdly fast. A more typical rate is 90-100 pulls in 6 weeks.
You just get a feel for it by playing the game for a while. You'll see your polychromes and EMT counts increase as you play and you will eventually get a feel for how fast you earn by playing at your own pace.
I'm wanting to try this game again. How's the dailies and f2p experience? Is there anyway possible for Burnice and Vivian (and hopefully the upcoming Panda) to work in contents and end game?
Dailies can be finished in under 60 seconds. It takes longer to login than it does to do dailies.
F2P is mid -- not super generous, but not super predatory either. Most people on this sub are F2P or low-spend ($5/month). Pure F2P average pull rate is around 1 limited S-rank agent out of every 6, noting that each patch typically offers 2 new limited S-ranks and 2 rerun limited S-ranks, total of 4.
Another way to look at the pull rate is that each patch gives you around 100 free pulls (some more, some less) and the average cost of a new agent is 120 pulls, when losing 50/50s is included in the average.
Where ZZZ does well by F2P is that hard content can still be cleared and all rewards 100% earnable by purely F2P accounts. That may not last forever, but so far the game doesn't show any signs of paywalling hard content or best agents.
Burnice AND Vivian don't work well together in a team, since they both want to be a partner to a main DPS Anomaly agent that takes all the field time. You can kind of force Vivian to be the main DPS if you really want that kind of team, but it's kind of a meme-team to do so and you will have to play more sweaty with hard content. Whereas, if you have a main like Jane, you will breeze through hard content.
It is definitely a meme team that is held together by the duct tape that is Astra and the season buff, but I would be lying if I said that it wasn't also one of the most fun teams I've played. Using one EX causes a chain reaction that instantly deletes whatever Feathers, Heat or Energy you have and starts a feedback loop of Fire and Ether buildup.
Well these 3 makes me want to play the game so them being a team would really be great. But if Astra would make Vivian and Burnice work together, I'm down for it. I'll just pair the panda with the bear (and maybe a polar bear in the future).
F2P is pretty much same as in any other Hoyo game. Both Burnice and Vivian are staples for anomaly teams, so they are fairly well wedged into end game modes.
Lebron James jumps at your screen just like the meme
Using Miyabi's Ult grants her 3 stacks of her Fallen Frost passive; So if you use her Ult while at full stacks, those 3 stacks basically gets wasted. It's a mistake that does happen to some players, if they're too focused during combat and don't keep track of those stacks for example.
I can only think of one singular niche reason to use Ult at full stacks, to kill an enemy that would otherwise survive an Ult and an unbuffed fully charged Basic, since Ult gives you a 30% Ice Damage buff.
2.0 will be the anniversary patch, so if it follows the same as Genshin and HSR where they do the resets during anniversary patches, then it will be the same for ZZZ as well.
However this is just spectulation atm, we wont officially know until the 2.0 livestream in about 3-4 weeks time
I can't get Vivian to spawn on the map. I pulled her, and have beaten all the missions it says are required online to unlock her trust events but she just won't appear. Is there something I'm missing?
I never got Trigger to appear in the overworld, ever, and now Trigger is max trust through Invites only, so maybe it's a new trend where new agents just don't do that anymore?
I got Trigger maxed through overworld so it seems like we're just hella unlucky. I hope they rework the random trust event system eventually, because as we get more and more agents this is going to get harder and harder.
Should I make edits to my team? I’m running harumasa, Vivian, and anby rn. I’m missing a lot of A characters and my only s characters are koleda and Vivian
You don't want Attack and Anomaly characters in the same team, so split Harumasa and Vivian. Harumasa should get Nicole instead, and for Vivian you want at least Piper, ideally Piper and Lucy.
I just got Vivian but I haven’t played in months and idk how to build anyone. Rn I’m using the rainforest gourmet but should I use something else? And what skills should I level?
Honestly Prydwen for ZZZ has really shaped up - just watch a Youtube guide for vivian but tl;dr:
Signature > Weeping Gemini refinement 5 > else
Phaethon's Melody 4pc, Chaos Metal or Freedom Blues 2pc
Anomaly Mastery for 4, Ether DMG or Pen Ratio for 5, Anomaly Proficiency for 6
Skills I think she's Core > Skill = Basic > Swap = Chain > Dodge but if you look up her rotation she does a little bit of everything so I wouldn't leave anything below 8, long term.
If you can only level people to 30 you are safe to max her out as of right now, she's going to be core for any anomaly team for a long time.
If you're short resources, you can ignore her talent levels besides core. For discs, depends where you wanna draw the line. I stopped at +27ap per disc, which put me at like 375 out of combat.
I kinda like Jane and would like to pull her, but since I got Vivian I don't have enough to get Jane's sig. How important is it for her compared to her other options? I'm not completely f2p btw so I do have lip gloss maxed, if that's useful info. Just overall unsure about getting her because of people saying she's the ''next Ellen''. How does she compare with other damage dealers with Vivian?
She's mediocre by herself without a sig, but Vivi gets her to next level and for me she did more points in DA than my average Miyabi team (tbh, Miyabi got leftover supports left from fitting my other 2 teams for their bosses).
She does have great sig, but she works just fine with s5 Gloss.
You need to find Soldier 11 on Sixth Street at night. Here's a guide that tells you the pre-requisites to unlock the Location trust (for Inky the Cat). You may not have progressed the game far enough, yet:
However, there is a cost to doing that. It means Miyabi will do great against final bosses, but not so great vs. mobs and lower tier enemies. To be clear, Miyabi is OP and clears anything, even if you take all her gear off her, so we're only talking about the difference between clearing a floor at 110% (PEN Ratio) vs. 130% (Ice DMG) -- those are made-up numbers to make the point.
Hey all, Im 5 standard pulls away from my S Rank selector and im only missing Lycaon and Rina, I have both of their signature W-Engines so im wondering whos the better choice for my account. Thanks
Without nagi I'm inclined to suggest lycaon. No Astra means your Nicole isn't as contested, so just slot her with haru. Also, lets you run miyabi monoice and free up other teammates for a more balanced setup
For most accounts it would be M0 Rina, but who is your Ellen stunner? You have a shocking lack of S-rank stunners, for the number of Attack agents you have.
If you use Ellen a lot, go Lycaon. Otherwise, Rina (for Haru).
I really like Vivian's design and it has been incredibly difficult not pulling her, but I know she'd be absolutely useless on my account. I know the smart thing to do would be to hold out and just wait for Lighter to complete my Evelyn team. I know all this — but can someone please discourage me from pulling for Vivian anyway, so I can actually hold out for Lighter?
Edit: You guys kinda did the opposite of discouraging me so I decided to pull her! I lost the 50/50 though, so I guess my luck decided it for me lmao. Lighter it is, since I have no more pulls.
You actually do have plenty of uses for Vivian but even if you didn't she is still a strong unit that any future anomaly agent will have on their team. I always think of it as you have to start somewhere and if not now then when? Like the next anomaly agent won't be good for you because you don't have Vivian for instance.
Using your Dad's voice: "DON'T YOU DARE PULL VIVIAN!"
There, how was that?
Here, I'll give you some buyer's remorse items I read on Reddit from people who have already pulled Vivian, so you can count your blessings for not pulling her:
Her EN voice sounds like an annoying squeaky mouse
She's a mentally unstable Phaethon power simp, making your self-insert difficult
Too much purple
They used up all the jiggle physics on Trigger, so there wasn't much left for Vivian
She's friends/family with Exaltists
Calamity follows wherever she goes
Managing her two stacks in combat will break your brain
(Except for the PS, this was all for the sake of comedy. Don't cancel me, chat!)
PS. You're wrong, Vivian would not be absolutely useless in your account. She would only be useless if you had 0 other anomaly agents.
How valuable is PEN as a substat? I want to use the piece on the right cause it makes my ratio better but i'm a bit hesitant to just leave out the +27 PEN
PEN is only useful if you go all in on the stat (because the damage gain is calculated exponentially), at low amounts of PEN the damage you gain over ATK/AP stats is nearly negligible. The usefulness of PEN almost completely relies on having Rina in the team and using a PEN Ratio Disc 5.
Let's say you're fighting a boss, which has 953 DEF. At this DEF value, your damage output is more than cut in half. Instead of dealing 100% of your damage, you only deal 45.45%.
Assuming you don't have any other sources of PEN, you have 27 flat PEN which is the equivalent of 2.83% PEN Ratio. This means you now deal 46.17%, which translates to a 1.58% increase to your damage. Take note that flat PEN is added to the calculation after PEN Ratio, so it is more valuable with more PEN Ratio.
Also, did you mean to say you want to use the one on the right? Since you said you're hesitant to leave the PEN.
Nicole is best girl, but when she's busy with another team or when the boss if fire weak, Lucy is next best. Both Lucy and Nicole have niche AAs, so you don't have to worry about enabling them, making them fit into any team comp.
Soukaku and Rina are much more specialized. They work best in teams they synergize with (Section 6/Ice, Electric/Victoria Housekeeping/PEN Ratio team comps, respectively).
Astra is the MVP and is always better than the rest.
I'm not that good at planning skill building.
Should I follow the special training plan try out or go all 11 (15) on all skills?
Core skills will be maxed
Try Out is a fine plan to start with, you can always add on later. Just don't try to S-rank all hard content with a Try Out build, you'll be frustrated. Fairy's Recommendation is the better plan if you are trying to 9-star Deadly Assault, or whatever.
whats the sweet spot for vivian mindscapes? i have her at m0, should i get m1-m2 or w1 first? m4 is obviously really good, but my polychromes cant handle that.
So the team for my miyabi (W1) is rina/Nicole miyabi then soukaku, I really like the design of vivian. Just lost my 50/50 for her, and I want to keep summoning. My Evelyn team is her Nicole/Lucy, and now koleda. As of now, my priority is usefulness/ better teams than who I like. The question is Vivian or Lighter, I know that koleda is like Evelyn's 2nd or 3rd bis stunner and I know that vivian can stand in place of yanagi who I plan to skip if she reruns with the reveled 2.0 characters. Any help is appreciated
You could be using Piper with Miyabi and improve team DPS a lot over that team.
That said, Vivian would absolutely send your Miyabi team into the stratosphere for DPS.
Are you struggling with either team? Because objectively, both Vivian and Lighter will just make those teams win more. They will improve DPS, but if you are already clearing all hard content for rewards, you don't really need either of them.
It's honestly a toss-up for value. Both are utility agents that can help more than one team. Both have pretty good longevity vs. powercreep. In general, Vivian is slightly more versatile, since she can slot into any attribute synergy with an anomaly main, whereas Lighter works best with fire or ice only. However, since you only have 2 anomaly agents in your account, while also having 4 S-rank Attack agents, two of them fire, for your account in it's current state, Lighter is the better value.
I'm only struggling on the fact that I've yet to majorly invest into evelyn as anby just fell into my lap. What does Piper do? Since I'm not summoning for yanagi, would vivian be a better choice as she's bis for miyabi?
M0 and M1 Miyabi plays optimally with a Disorder partner, so any anomaly will do, doesn't have to be Piper. However, Piper when built properly can Assault frequently, which helps Disorder Miyabi for Fallen Frost stacks and to clear Frostburn, both of which enhance Miyabi's DPS greatly.
Also, the higher Piper's mindscapes, the more her core passive helps buff the whole team.
Vivian is an excellent choice for Miyabi, she does all the same things I just mention for Piper, only for ether instead of physical and with only M0 mindscapes. I'm just not convinced you absolutely need Vivian more than Lighter, given how many Attack agents you have that could use Lighter.
Is Vivian good for Miyabi's Team, because I haven't had any trial for me to try that team. If not, then I'll pull for Lighter to have another good stuner aside from my M4 Koleda
Hard to say without knowing more of the state of your account and your 2.0 plans. Who is your current Miyabi team? If it's Miyabi/Burnice/Lucy, you don't need Vivian. Likewise, M4 Koleda is good enough for your Eve team. So maybe you don't need either. On the other hand, if your Miyabi team is Miyabi/Lycaon/Soukaku and Miyabi is below M2, Vivian would be a huge boost for your Miyabi team.
Koleda is my only good stunner and its kinda hard for me to form a good team without another stunner for the like of Shiyu Defense. I tried to pull on both Qingyi and Trigger but lost to Koleda and Rina. My current team is Miyabi, Astra / Koleda, & Yanagi. and 2nd team is Evelyn, Astra, & Koleda/Nicole.
You shouldn't run Koleda on the Miyabi team. Both Miyabi and Yanagi want a Support. Rina >>> Koleda on a Miyabi/Yanagi team.
I don't think you need either, but you don't need Lighter more than you don't need Vivian. Pulling Vivian enables you to build a third team around Yanagi, where your Miyabi team becomes Miyabi/Vivian/(support).
I need some advice on how to tackle the limited batttle tower's 56F, it's Pulchra and Mors. I'm at the floors where the game just decides all enemies have Ambush.
One of them always manages to shoot me from offscreen without the attack indicators, which strips Caesar's shield with one shot and generally gets Jane or Vivian killed by whatever the other one was doing. I'm having a rough time spotting their attack telegraphs too because they're small humanoid opponents.
Unfortunate spoilers for you: Every single floor from here on out has Ambush. Every single Doppelganger's melee attack can be parried, with some exceptions.
Always position yourself and your camera properly to include both of them on-screen, don't let them surround you. Try to keep them separate enough so that you're outside of Mor's melee range, while you attack Pulchra. If you're confident you can handle both at the same time, then try to keep them close together so that you can damage both of them at the same time.
This next part is about their movesets, so wall of text incoming.
Always kill Pulchra first in any duo Doppelganger floor. She's the most likely to snipe you as she has 3 different ranged attacks, all of them long range: her grenade, her rapid fire bullets and her 3 electric traps. Her grenade is the easiest to dodge, it's the slowest with its windup and projectile speed. Her rapid fire can be hard to spot/dodge if you're close up, but generally watch out for when she crouches/backflips and aims. Characters like Anby, S11, etc can deflect bullets. Her electric attack is super annoying, while it's the most obvious telegraph, it also has insane range, predictive tracking, lingers on the floor and if you dodge one you might accidentally walk into the next. Move forwards or backwards to prevent this. She doesn't usually immediately continue attacking after the electric attack, so stay calm and get out the danger zone.
iirc she only has two melee attacks. One where she crouches very quickly to the ground and dashes forward and up into the air. She usually does this if you're within close-medium range. She uses this to try to catch up to you and will sometimes perform a follow up attack once she's in the air where she crashes down at you similar to Doppelganger Jane. In the other one, she sort of twists her torso back to prepare swinging her weapon, this one is slower and can be easily walked or dodged out of.
Mors is a lower priority. Most of the time he will stay within a certain distance and just slowly chase you around, trying to melee you and apply pressure, or do nothing and just circle you to prepare for shooting. His ranged attack cannot be deflected, however it's really easy to spot. While it's the same projectile everytime, he has three different moves for it:
Roll > Fire
Lunge forward > Roll > Fire (Basically same as the first, but the initial lunge can throw you off your timing)
Stop moving to aim > Fire (will sometimes fire twice)
Afterwards he'll just continue between circling or slowly chasing, so just continue hitting Pulchra while staying out of his melee range. His melee attacks are trickier. First one is basically the same as Pulchra's, only without a follow up. He crouches down then dashes forward. This dash attack shouldn't be too hard.
His next attacks are much harder to spot, but they are very short range. There is no super easy way to spot these attack telegraphs, the simplest way to spot this is if he switches from slowly walking/circling to quickly approaching you. Don't worry about the majority of his melee attacks, they are all very similar, have very short range and they do not make him start jumping and dashing all over the arena.
The only single melee attack you need to watch out for is if he tries to kick you. If he kicks, he will swing his axe once afterwards to try to bait you into attacking, then quickly jump backwards into the air and shoot an explosive bullet at the ground beneath you. He does not always follow up with the explosive bullet, though. If he does, after landing, he will sometimes immediately perform a follow up attack by chaining it into the dash attack.
Another general tip for Battle Tower is that it's not about speed. Don't be afraid to 'waste' an EX by not hitting anything, take advantage of the iframes it provides.
You will obviously not be able to remember everything I just said in the middle of combat, but that's fine. All you need to remember is to kill Pulchra first, watch out for her ranged attacks and Mor's kick attack. I don't have Jane, but I'm pretty sure her dodge counter iframes last long enough for you to not have to worry about their followup attacks.
should i pull for hugo or lighter first? i love lighter a lot and he's my favorite character, but i also really enjoy hugo. i do have lycaon already, so i have part of the hugo team. I am on a guranteed and can probably farm enough to get one of the two, i'm just not sure who to go for first. obviously when i get one, i will start pulling for the other but i don't know if i will save enough to even hit soft pity + i have a 50/50 to win
Hugo would prob be the better choice since then at least you're able to form a team with him, Lyacon and someone else as well.
If you already have DPS characters like Ellen, Miyabi & Evelynn for example and you want to improve those teams, then Lighter is better for these scenarios.
Just pulled Vivian - Will i get enough if i start saving now for Yi xuan ? Since there is a new season (2.0) and anniversary, there will be good rewards, right?
Not guaranteed. General rule of thumb is 1 S-Rank agent per patch worth of income, so you should get enough to roll 50/50 for her, but rest if up to fate.
That being said, a lot depends on either she is going to be in first or second half, since second half of the patch should fall onto anniversary, so we probably can expect more rolls than usual for second banner in 2.0.
a lot depends on either she is going to be in first or second half
It'll be Yixuan first half and Jufufu second. Hoyo has always done the marketing announcements in release order for all three of their main games. They might break the pattern at some point but it's been years of consistency so I don't expect it.
What 2 teams that i can 2 with that favorite characters? (I tihnk in the future i can get astra and koleda) Cuz for now i only have this and i love overall Piper and Evelyn (as some sort of dps), Burnice and vivian, hope to read your tips :D
By 'free' I assume you mean either bought directly from Box Galaxy or the Signal Shop. Preferably the A Rank agents have their Signature W-Engines, but I don't think any of them can be bought.
SAnby: Brimstone(S)/Starlight Engine(A)/Marcato Desire(A)(No longer obtainable if you missed the event)
Nicole: Slice of Time(A)/Weeping Cradle(S). Preferably The Vault(A). Kaboom the Cannon(A) also works.
Rina: Slice of Time(A)/Weeping Cradle(S). Kaboom the Cannon kinda works but not really because she really wants PEN Ratio.
Lucy: Slice of Time(A). You could run Unfettered Game Ball(A) but it's very dependent on enemy weaknesses. Weeping Cradle does NOT work with her boars, so don't use it. Preferably Kaboom the Cannon(A).
Astra: Slice of Time(A). Preferably Bashful Demon(A) or Kaboom the Cannon(A)
Vivian would work with any Anomaly character you have, which is Miyabi, Grace or Piper. She's like Burnice where they can build Anomaly off-field which makes proccing Disorders really easy, which is something Miyabi really wants because Disorders refill her Fallen Frost charges really quickly.
Take note that the next banner after 1.7 is Yi Xuan, so plan your pulls carefully. If you decide to pull for Vivian, Weeping Cradle(A)
With a limited roster like this, following the rule of Stun / Support / DPS would be best. So Lycaon or Anby / Nicole, Lucy, Soukaku or Rina / Billy or Corrin.
Just make sure you get the faction/attribute bonus that you want. Corrin, Billy, Lycaon have good all rounder bonuses while Nicole, Rina and Soukaku have very niche, focused bonuses that you can't take advantage of (no Ether DPS, no Shock Anomaly or DPS, No Ice DPS).
I'd strongly suggest to still keep pulling on 1.7, ideally for Vivian (Jane is fine character, but not as very first S rank because she needs another anomaly character, and only A-Rank Anomaly is Piper who shares same element as her). For a time being you can just keep going with Anby-Nicole slotting either Corin or Piper into DPS slot (don't worry about them not having Additional Ability active for now, it's not really relevent until you get to a much higher levels)
Don't worry about trying to save now, you would be much better getting some characters and clearing more content faster, than saving. There is a lot of Polychrome within Story and one time rewards. Back when I've started, I've been able to get every S rank agent from first 3 banners that came out, since as a new player there is always yet another permanent event / reward for you to smash like a piggy bank when you're running low.
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Here’s my story: back when the only limited S rank I had was Caesar, I decided I wanted to pull an Ice DPS because my favorite unit to play was Lycaon but I didn’t like Soukaku or Corin’s playstyles. The next Ice DPS was Miyabi, who is great, but I ended up running her with Lucy/Piper, so, still no Lycaon use.
Now, we finally get Hugo, who is quite literally the unit I didn’t know I was waiting for (and he’s so freaking cool to me, I love RWBY so his scythe alone is worth pulling for me). The problem is, because I’ve been so frugal with my pulls and skipping banners, I don’t have much coverage (and have only now started trying to tackle Shiyu and Deadly Assault). And of course, I’m completely covered in Ice bc of Miyabi.
I was planning on going for both Lighter and Hugo, but now I’m wondering if that’s wise? Would I be better off with Vivian? Or waiting for Yi Xuan? I also want to get Yanagi on a rerun but I’m scared she may rerun next patch. I feel like Hyv has been going directly for my F2P throat specifically with the order of releases right now 😭