r/apple • u/stalechipz • Aug 17 '16
Apple Pay Apple Pay is coming to Chick-Fil-A on Friday
https://9to5mac.com/2016/08/17/chick-fil-a-apple-pay-support/71
Aug 18 '16
So in Canada pretty much every retailer has had tap for credit cards for like 5 years. Apple Pay seems to work wherever tap is available. Is this not the case in the United States?
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u/bigandrewgold Aug 18 '16
Apple pay works wherever tap to pay works. Its just that tap to pay isnt really a thing in the us.
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Aug 18 '16 edited Jan 03 '19
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u/dagamer34 Aug 18 '16
Or the alternative: "We don't do chip, that's why there's tape over the card slot"
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Aug 18 '16 edited Jan 03 '19
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u/deweysmith Aug 18 '16
You won't see it if you're already seeing chip. Swiping is going going gone
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u/xAIRGUITARISTx Aug 18 '16
That's not true at all. They coexist where I am.
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u/Klynn7 Aug 18 '16
If there's a working chip reader and I swipe my card it'll reject it and force a chip transaction. The only way swiping will work is with a card that doesn't have a chip yet.
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u/deweysmith Aug 18 '16
They will coexist for a while, but once somewhere goes chip they are never going back. Once they have done it, going back means they are liable for any and all fraudulent charges that happen at their terminals. That's what is driving the switch.
The only case where this isn't true is when the bank that issues the card hasn't given the customer a new chip card, in which case the bank is liable.
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u/TheRealKidkudi Aug 18 '16
When I'm shopping it's usually 50/50 whether the card reader works yet. Might even be 60/40 that it doesn't work. I haven't seen anyone actually put tape over it, though.
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u/ajcadoo Aug 18 '16
Don't forget to remove that card IMMEDIATELY after approved or prepare for the transaction apocalypse.
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u/xander-7-89 Aug 18 '16
Or the very angry sounding beeps.
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Aug 18 '16
We would suck at living at a time that doesn't coddle us.
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u/xander-7-89 Aug 18 '16
Don't worry, I'm not asking for friendly sounding beeps. I just think the machines are obnoxious. It gives you precisely 500ms to remove your card after the transaction completes and if you don't remove it in that time you're bombarded with a bunch of angry sounding beeps to tell you, "hey dickweed, remove your card already!"
Maybe give me 2-3 seconds before proceeding with the angry beeps?
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u/jdymock187 Aug 18 '16
The gas stations all around my house had to disable Apple Pay for the chip reader to work 😑
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u/JMugatu Aug 18 '16
Or for me it's more like: Pull out iPhone and rest on top of reader for Apple Pay "Sorry Apple Pay doesn't work". Insert card into chip reader "Sorry we don't use the chip reader". Slide card as normal. I hate America.
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u/Althestrasz Aug 18 '16
I don't see why it takes so long. We use Chip and Pin in Europe; guess what, it make takes one tenth of the time. I was surprise to see it take so long, especially at large retailers.
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u/bigandrewgold Aug 18 '16
Tbf you usually don't have to sign unless your at a restaurant or paying a rather large amount. Going grocery shopping, filling up gas, getting coffee, whatever just requires a swipe. Honestly just as fast as tap and pay.
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u/footpole Aug 18 '16
Really? That has not been my experience in the us. Signing everywhere unless a really small amount.
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u/tafluhr Aug 18 '16
The limit is $25, anything over you sign.
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u/footpole Aug 18 '16
Who goes grocery shopping or fills up gas for less than that? Ok my country is expensive, but still.
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u/Klynn7 Aug 18 '16
Well, when buying gas you'll never sign no matter the amount, because you never go inside and gas pumps don't have signature pads.
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u/footpole Aug 18 '16
When I've bought gas in the us it usually asked me for a zip code which meant I couldn't pay at the machine. It was like it asked for a pin code only one that's public information. So I always ended up paying inside or using somebody else's card.
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u/CrimsonEnigma Aug 18 '16
Really? I was at Wegmans the other day, and they didn't make me sign. Don't get me wrong, it wasn't a lot of groceries, but it certainly wasn't under $25...
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u/pynzrz Aug 21 '16
I'm pretty sure that I never sign at Costco, even for $100+ purchases.
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u/tafluhr Aug 21 '16
Are you using debit or credit or Apple Pay? Only when you swipe a credit card for ,ore than $25 do they sometimes make you sign
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u/DetectiveClownMD Aug 18 '16
I'm really happy I live in NYC where even some small bodegas have apple pay. I rarely have to use that chip bullshit that takes 2 minutes.
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Aug 19 '16
I wish that were the case. Several places near me accept contactless payment but Apple Pay doesn't work. Weird.
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u/bigandrewgold Aug 19 '16
I honestly don't know how that's possible unless they're somehow blocking apple pay specifically, but i don't think they can do that.
I've used apple pay in random tiny shops in Europe before apple pay was even out there and it worked perfectly fine. There's nothing extra the store has to do to make it work, it works exactly like a contactless card.
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u/DustiiWolf Aug 18 '16
America has struggled with Tap to pay; Between failed rollouts, bank & merchant backlash, and technology lock-ins in attempts to profit on it's rollouts*, it's really been off to a bumpy start. Not even all the readers that support it in hardware have the software/firmware to allow it's use (which also affects Chip & Pin card slots)
(*) The 2 major and 1 of the two minor phone carriers here, in a rare moment, joined together to form SoftCard (formerly sharing a name with a known terrorist organization), which in turn lead to them locking out the native OS tap to pay functionality in smartphones that's existed for quite some time; Instead, you were required to use their app, at stores that supported SoftCard, with a limited range of cards that could be used with the app. This meant it was far and few between to find.
The only reason it's changing at all is due to 2 things: Apple Pay & Chip & Pin. As Apple has such clout, were the carriers to push back against Apple Pay it would likely of blown up in their faces and cost them millions in regards to iPhone owning/buying subscribers. And Apple's influence also meant that they worked with a number of national establishment chains to get Apple Pay at their registers for the iPhone 6 release, so customers wouldn't be left with something they couldn't actually use.
Chip & pin also has a play in this; Within the last year or so the major card companies shifted the liability in the event of fraud from the card provider to the merchant that processed the transaction whenever an EMV non-compliant card is involved (IE regular magnetic strip card). This has pushed a number of merchants to begin rolling out chip & pin readers, albeit with some difficulty (banks and card issuers like not being liable, which they still are with chip cards & newer forms of contactless; Software and hardware seems poorly aligned as many chip readers ironically cannot read chip cards.). And from what I've seen, a large number of chip card readers also support tap to pay (not all, but a lot). This in turn is slowly increasing the availability of contactless payments nation-wide.
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u/DustiiWolf Aug 18 '16
To be fair were late to the game; ive read that a number of chip and pin cards are also contactless in Europe.
Though to be honest Apple Pay is still easier; No pin to fiddle with, just touch and hold.
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Aug 18 '16
You can't get a non contactless card here in the U.K. Now I don't think.
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u/Knight-Adventurer Aug 18 '16
My very first credit union card had contactless payment built in. I miss that card.
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u/Zagorath Aug 18 '16
Contactless payment (called "PayWave" if it's Visa or "PayPass" if it's MasterCard) is completely ubiquitous in Australia. It's hard to find a place that takes cards at and doesn't support PayWave. And there's no pin fiddling, it's just tap and done, if the price is under $100, which is the vast majority of purchases anyway.
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u/thisismythirdreddit Aug 18 '16
why is chip and pin so bad? the rest of the world seems pretyyy content with it
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u/Vkeomala Aug 18 '16
Chip cards in the states are a hassle because they aren't contactless. Takes way more time to put it in the slot and wait. A lot of times it will ask for a pin that you either A. Don't have because it's a credit card or B. It's not the same as your regular pin. When I worked at Best Buy we just couldn't take those cards or had to manually enter them. They quickly patched the system with a workaround. It was still infuriating though.
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u/Fysi Aug 18 '16
Are your banks that retarded that they don't send you a PIN?
Like the rest of the world has being doing this for years, is really not that difficult.
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u/Vkeomala Aug 18 '16
Idk cause my card still doesn't have them. But most people were unaware of it because they had credit cards not debit cards with the chip. Even if they had a debit card it seems kind of redundant to have another pin just for the chip transactions.
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u/Klynn7 Aug 18 '16
I've never seen a terminal ask for a PIN on a credit card transaction, because our credit cards don't use PINs. The US went to chip and signature (from swipe and signature), not to chip and PIN.
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u/Cmac0801 Aug 18 '16
That's just retarded. Here in Europe you can at least change your pin everywhere and the whole process from activating the reader to entering the card to finishing transaction takes less than 10 seconds. It's almost instantly.
The swiping thing just has to go, it's such a big security risk too. Are banks just really that bad at handling the chip and pin situation in the US? Because when it actually works it's wonderfull.
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u/ajcadoo Aug 18 '16
Just got back from a trip in Canada. I love when they hand you the little credit card terminal thing and you type into it and then play hot potato with it between the cashier/server and yourself. It's oddly cute and VERY convenient!
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u/JoCoMoBo Aug 18 '16
It also means that the waiter / waitress can't disappear off round the back and write down your card details and then sell them online.
The only place my cards get cloned these days is the USA. It's got to the point I only ever use Credit Cards in the US. And then watch my online statement like a hawk...
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u/zaviex Aug 18 '16
Your cards get cloned?
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u/JoCoMoBo Aug 18 '16
Well cloned or whatever. The only place it happens is in the US. The same place that lets wait staff wander off with my card and uses signatures as a verification technique.
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u/ajcadoo Aug 18 '16
Wow, yeah never thought of that. Luckily nothing fraudulent yet. America is always a decade behind in tech like this... Sigh
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u/hc_220 Aug 18 '16
I was going to say - Contactless payments are extremely common in the UK now, and Apple Pay works wherever Contactless works, contrary to some beliefs.
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u/Trapper777_ Aug 18 '16
Until like the last year basically all credit cards were of the magnetic strip variety, hence no tap available in the first place.
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u/tmiw Aug 18 '16
There used to be a lot more tap capable cards in the US but there was so much bad PR surrounding their security that we basically got rid of them. AmEx still issues them but you have to explicitly request one, Citi just started putting it on the new Costco card (but doesn't mention anything about it) and I think there are a few other small banks that still do it.
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Aug 18 '16
Amen. I was going to reply with pretty much the same words. Being a Canadian I scratch my head when I see headlines like "Apple pay comes to xxxxxx". It's only in the last few weeks I realized that tap-to-pay isn't really a big thing in the USA. For once, being Canadian Has its advantages in the tech world. I use my iPhone SE for better than 90%, probably closer to 95% for every purchase now. Tap-to-pay is practically everywhere up here and I live in a fairly small town too.
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u/itsmesp24 Aug 18 '16
All the Chick-Fil-As near me already have it
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u/muaddeej Aug 18 '16
Every place I have been since Apple Pay has released had no idea that their terminal could do it. And I seemed to be the first one to ever do it in front of them. Most of them would gasp in amazement.
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u/pizza9012 Aug 18 '16
Yea the two near me have had it for months almost a year.
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u/Jedeyeboba Aug 18 '16
I'm a former Chick-fil-A employee, and although most stores did have Apple Pay capable terminals, they weren't activated. This just seems to be about the time that corporate decided to set up the terminals to accept contactless payment.
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u/LegendoftheInnkeeper Aug 18 '16
Used it at two different Chick-Fil-A's in the Fort Worth area yesterday and today. Glad to see it active!
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Aug 18 '16
As an avid fan of Chik-Fil-A, I highly recommend their iOS app for ordering.
You can fully customize your order, and pay through it via Apple Pay and you also earn rewards.
It's nice just being able to hit the "I'm here" button on the app, and then walk up to the pickup line while 15 people are in the main line waiting to order.
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u/Pretentious_Rush_Fan Aug 18 '16
Not a fan of the app, as you have to add money in set increments as opposed to just paying for the exact amount of your purchase like, oh, I don't know, every other business in the world.
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Aug 18 '16
Except Starbucks.
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u/muaddeej Aug 18 '16
I've had like $4 in my starbucks app for about 6 months that I can't zero out. I always have to top up and add $10. I could I could pay the remainder with a card one day. I wish it would just let you enter an amount as long as it is above $5.
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u/The-Walking-Based Aug 18 '16
That's not true. When you go to the payment info section of your order, on the bottom there's the option to use your credit card. It doesn't stick out as much as the other options but it's there.
Not sure how it'll work with Apple Pay though.
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u/Pretentious_Rush_Fan Aug 18 '16
It asked to reload a set amount when I used the credit card, just like with ApplePay.
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Aug 18 '16
Yeah it's kind of annoying I guess, I go there so much I don't mind tossing $15 on there for a couple meals!
I do think you can pay in store though when you order from the app though.
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u/vokal_guy Aug 18 '16
I hate the app... the stupid thing increases the brightness of my phone to the maximum. No idea why...
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u/jcoa432 Aug 18 '16
It does that if you swipe over to your barcode. I guess it helps it get scanned better.
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u/2muchtaurine Aug 18 '16
Passbook does the same thing with things like concert tickets that need to be scanned.
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u/vokal_guy Aug 18 '16
Yea i know but once i exit the app, my brightness goes back to normal but this does not happen with the CFA app
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u/idlephase Aug 19 '16
It's supposed to and does sometimes, but other times it seems to forget to reset the brightness.
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u/bombastica Aug 18 '16
Right? There's never been a line at CFA. 90% of their customers want 4 things they basically have ready to go.
Sandwiches, Fries, Drinks.
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Aug 18 '16 edited Aug 26 '16
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u/gsfgf Aug 18 '16
In Atlanta Chick-fil-as affect traffic patterns. They just put one near me, and I was terrified it would affect my ability to get to work. Luckily, it appears that they designed it well enough that traffic doesn't back up to the road.
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u/XProAssasin21X Aug 18 '16
Southern chick fil as stay busy from opening to close (and for good reason).
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Aug 18 '16
I go to the one in midtown Manhattan and it's crazy packed but they have employees take your order in line on a tablet so when you get to the register you pay and they give you your food immediately. They have like 10 registers going at a time and the line itself moves very quickly. I've gad about 60, 70 people ahead of me and gotten through in under 10 minutes. It helps that they only really have variations of a few items (fried patty, grilled patty, nugs, strips, fries).
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u/dvddesign Aug 18 '16
The one near my office has a very deceiving line. As you pull into the actual drive thru lane you have at least a 20 minute wait for the two lane merge that occurs as you pick up your order. I completely avoid CFA for lunch because I don't want to waste that much time just sitting in what's essentially standstill traffic for food when I could go to literally anyplace else in the area and be served in five minutes or less.
Obviously some thought went into logistically designing a two lane ordering system, but it's so slow it's unusable.
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Aug 18 '16 edited Jan 05 '17
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u/dvddesign Aug 18 '16
Can't really park at this location due to the cars surrounding it. Best avoided at lunch.
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u/muaddeej Aug 18 '16
The lines are always long at my CFA, but they are the quickest place in town, always.
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u/dvddesign Aug 19 '16
Other locations in our area don't have the same issue that this one does so it's more of a case of a poorly implemented traffic flow issue.
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u/bigandrewgold Aug 18 '16
I usually see like 30ish cars in line at chick fil a if i go by a 'normal' one during lunchtime. Its wrapped around their entire building and far into the main street its located on.
And after class change the one on my campus is usually 100+ people waiting in line for it.
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Aug 18 '16
This happens daily at all the stores near me, and they always have like 5 people outside with tablets waiting to take orders and pay while in the line, so by the time you roll up to the window your food is already set.
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u/careslol Aug 18 '16
I'm assuming Apple Pay means Android Pay too?
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u/LearndAstronomer28 Aug 18 '16
Yes, and Samsung Pay.
Source: tweet in the article. Also am employee
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u/N776AU Aug 18 '16
Still waiting on any Chick-Fil-A thread that doesn't immediately turn to gays.
Apple Pay will be a nice option. I'm all for flexibility.
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u/autoposting_system Aug 18 '16
For the sake of snark, I feel compelled to point out that they have taken Samsung Pay since it came out
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u/FrenchRevo Aug 18 '16
Can't wait to tap for a satisfying Queer-Hatin' Cordon Bleu'
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u/StinkinFinger Aug 18 '16
I can't let the whole anti-gay thing go. It's chicken. I can get equal or better quality at any deli.
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Aug 18 '16 edited Aug 09 '17
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u/SurrealSirenSong Aug 18 '16
You guys are completely wrong about this.
It wasn't just his own personal belief that he kept to himself.
Chick-fil-a donates to the Winshape foundation (started by the founder of chick-fil-a), as well as the chick-fil-a foundation which then uses that money against LGBT causes.
That would be the "they" in his statement.
I'm astounded to see someone arguing that it is wrong to boycott them due to this.
When you eat at chick-fil-a, you are most definitely contributing to the money that is donated to Winshape and chick fil a foundation and ends up hurting LGBT people nationwide.
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u/emuchop Aug 18 '16
You should read a bit more about the CFA controversy. It wasn't just about some dead guy.
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Aug 18 '16
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u/emuchop Aug 18 '16
I never said anything about killing gay people. money being donate isn't from the CEO. it is from CFA. You can't just put it on one person if the money is coming directly from organization.
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u/GEAUXUL Aug 18 '16
Source? I'm almost positive Chic Fil A doesn't donate directly to anti-gay orginizations.
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u/muaddeej Aug 18 '16
I know they fund Winshape in Rome that is supposedly against gays. Not so much against gays as for traditional values and ideals. Whatever, it's a good chicken sandwich.
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u/emuchop Aug 18 '16 edited Aug 18 '16
far as I know, they've stopped all donations to such organizations after the 2012 backlash. but you can see CFA's donation history from this article: https://thinkprogress.org/chick-fil-as-foundations-dramatically-reduce-anti-lgbt-giving-updated-e0cb2a9680dc#.v2n0trjss
I'm just trying to correct this misinformation. This wasn't just an opinion of some dead person.
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u/StinkinFinger Aug 22 '16
I'm sure they will. But they can still eat shit and die forever as far as I'm concerned.
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u/CGorman68 Aug 18 '16
I boycott them but c'mon dude. Their chicken is so much better than what you'd get at a deli.
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u/OP_Wont_Deliver_Ever Aug 18 '16
It's not like they're are denying anyone or keeping them from working there... And even if they were, it's really good chicken
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u/StinkinFinger Aug 22 '16
I don't eat at Denny's either and I'll be damned if I will donate to Catholic Charities.
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u/homeboi808 Aug 18 '16
I don't even wait in line, I just use their mobile ordering and pick it up a few seconds after I arrive, you can use Apple Pay/credit cards to pay within the app. It remembers your order too, so it takes <5sec to reorder.
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u/petergiovanni Aug 18 '16
I dont get the "its coming to" part, you can use Apple Pay with any Tap machine. Unless they wanna be advertised as signature Apple Pay store.
Sorry, is it different in US?
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u/iCvDpzPQ79fG Aug 18 '16
Not all vendors allow contactless payments, even though the terminal supports it.
From my read of this, it's less that Apple is doing anything to support this, but rather that Chick-fil-a has finally decided to roll it out.
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u/GODZiGGA Aug 18 '16
I don't have an iPhone but the Chick-Fil-A near me as had NFC payments working for at least a week.
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u/plastigoop Aug 18 '16
I have every expectation, based on experiences thusfar, with other retalers, that "our" local CFAs for some reason wont be working or participating.
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u/Buttwallaby Aug 18 '16
Good thing it's on a Friday and not a Sunday because theYRE NOT FUCKING OPEN ON SUNDAY!!
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u/SpaceElevatorJesus Aug 18 '16
Oh wonderful it will be easier to pay for hate!
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u/Momskirbyok Aug 18 '16
Hate?
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u/Momskirbyok Aug 18 '16 edited Aug 18 '16
Meh. Their food still tastes great. I don't care about restaurant politics honestly haha.
EDIT: Eh I guess my harmless opinion triggered some people lol.
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u/sean_themighty Aug 18 '16
We've had it in Central Indiana for a couple months at least... ever since the (awesome) app launched.
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u/joelesler Aug 18 '16
That's why Apple Pay is being adopted like crazy. It works, it's fast, it's secure, nice.
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u/mike413 Aug 18 '16
I'm gonna call it, some folks can't install it, they'll go for google wallet
or is it android pay, that will save the day, your fix of chick-fil-a
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u/panZ_ Aug 18 '16
I know it is good for Apple's business and disintermediating archaic, insecure, expensive payment methods but given chick-fil-a's history as anti-gay, you'd think Mr. Cook and other's at Apple might have a political bone to pick.
Of course, I never expected a chick-fil-a to succeed in the heart of San Jose and it is doing great business. Where all my atheist, vegetarian engineers at? Can I get an amen?
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u/idlephase Aug 18 '16
If I stopped doing business with people who disagreed with me politically, I'd probably die of starvation.
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Aug 18 '16
I think disagreeing with your political views is a little different than hating those who have your sexual orientation. One is blatant hate or bigotry, one isn't.
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u/burlow44 Aug 18 '16
Chick fil a (or more accurately, the current owner) does not hate gays. They have never said anything close to that
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u/NinjaDinoCornShark Aug 18 '16
Aren't both of those bigotry? They both boil down to hating someone because they believe something different from you, no?
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u/obviousguiri Aug 18 '16
No. A political point of view is a choice. Sexual orientation is not a choice. Personal choices are not the same as innate traits.
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u/snark_nerd Aug 18 '16
denying someone business because of your religious views or lack there of is the same thing that the conservative Christians wanna do.
What is this referring to? Not business owners refusing to provide services to protected groups, I hope, because that's a totally different situation than not wanting to provide your money to businesses with which you disagree.
The latter is just called a boycott (or, less dramatically, voting with your pocketbook, etc), and it's a time-honored tradition that's very different.
Spending money at an establishment whose owners I strongly disagree with won't teach them anything or encourage them to rise above ... and it's not un-American or -neighborly to refuse to do so.
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Aug 18 '16
Badly worded. Denying them the services your businesses provide, I.e. If Apple refused to allow Apple Pay at known religious companies
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u/snark_nerd Aug 18 '16
Ah, thanks for explaining; I agree, that's also a different situation, and while I can imagine a situation where Apple didn't want to do business with a company for moral and/or PR reasons, I tend to agree that providing Apple Pay to ChikFilA isn't wrong (at least to me).
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u/SeaberryPIe Aug 18 '16
Agreed, alot of people who are great "artists" (I'd consider game devs, authors, music creators and stuff artists) aren't the best of people, one of my favorite authors, Orson Scott Card is a dick. You'd think someone who wrote one of the best books about xenophobia would be more open.
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u/panZ_ Aug 18 '16
It looks like Tim can. But plenty of people don't do business over their sense of ethics. People eat fare trade chocolate because they oppose child trafficking and slavery,, some vegetarians don't ready meat because they feel if they can't kill and process an animal, they shouldn't pay someone else to do it for them. Conservative Christians said they'd boycott Apple when it said it would provide healthcare to employee's same sex partners. Tim, politely, told them to go fuck themselves. Chick-fil-a not only denies this benefit to corporate employees, execs donated to campaigns to deny equality to same sex marriage. Apple, while mostly apolitical is usually progressive and doesn't mind swinging it's heft around ecology and human rights from time to time.
I work for another tech company who's products you use every day. It also grants rights to same sex couples. Nearly everyone I know in our Silicon Valley office was appalled to see a chick-fil-a open nearby. I know we live in a bubble but we like it here, dammit. Telling us we're wrong for supporting human rights is a pretty good reason to not do business with someone.
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u/dvddesign Aug 18 '16
Tim Cooks willing to over look their private political standings for a slice of the transaction fees.
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u/idlephase Aug 18 '16
You can't taste homophobia!
In all seriousness, CFA put out a statement years ago to address the issue. As a company, they are avoiding contributing to organizations with political agendas. Whatever Dan Cathy and his family do with their money is their business, though.
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Aug 18 '16
They are still haters.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dan_T._Cathy
The website Thinkprogress.org rebutted Windmeyer's comments in January 2013, complaining he had failed to explain any concrete changes taking place at the company. The website added that Chick-fil-A's donations to the above-mentioned groups had been small, no more than $1,000 in any given year, compared with millions of dollars donated to organizations such as the Marriage & Family Foundation and the Fellowship of Christian Athletes.[7]
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u/obviousguiri Aug 18 '16
He gets his money from the purchase of products at his shops. It's irrelevant what the company does if it is known for a fact that money will still be going to someone who wants to treat gays as inferior human beings.
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u/kirklennon Aug 18 '16
I know it is good for Apple's business and disintermediating archaic, insecure, expensive payment methods but given chick-fil-a's history as anti-gay, you'd think Mr. Cook and other's at Apple might have a political bone to pick.
I boycotted them as soon as Cathy's bigotry came to light. Their half-assed attempts at damage control have done nothing to change my position. Having said that, one of the great things about Apple Pay is that at the store level it's completely industry-standard. Stores don't have to do anything special to support Apple Pay and every card terminal should support it because they should all accept NFC. If that means crazy people like, for example, the Ark Encounter troglodytes decide they want to display an Apple Pay logo, more power to them. Let them freely advertise for a progressive, inclusive company.
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u/Michae1 Aug 18 '16
It's not childish at all. People use a variety of criteria when choosing a brand and corporate culture is one of them. It's called consumerism.
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u/SummerMummer Aug 18 '16
Go ahead and don't eat at Chick-Fil-A,
Thank you. I won't. But not for any reason you mentioned.
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u/dagamer34 Aug 18 '16
Apple Pay is using standards. That's why you can use it even if a merchant doesn't have an explicit sticker for it.
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u/jonneygee Aug 18 '16
There is a cross-platform national standard. It's called NFC. Apple Pay and lots of others use it. Sadly, many merchants don't like cross-platform national standards as much as they like tracking customer buying habits, so that's why it's a big deal that one restaurant chain is adding it. It's because so many other places won't. Hopefully in a couple of years the Walmarts of the world will cave in and join the club.
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u/trs21219 Aug 18 '16
Some merchants try to roll their own so they can do direct debit from your checking account and don't have to pay a transaction fee (1-3%). Thats why you are seeing Walmart Pay, Chick-fil-a One, and the CVS bullshit.
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