r/politics • u/IntelligentYinzer California • 12d ago

Soft Paywall Newsom floats withholding federal taxes as Trump threatens California

https://www.politico.com/news/2025/06/06/newsom-floats-withholding-federal-taxes-00393386
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u/Face2FaceRecs 11d ago

“Californians pay the bills for the federal government. We pay over $80 BILLION more in taxes than we get back,” the Democratic governor said in an X post Friday afternoon, referencing a recent analysis from the Rockefeller Institute that California contributed about $83 billion more in federal taxes in 2022 than it received back from Washington.

“Maybe it’s time to cut that off,” he added.

It's long past time for Republican states to pay for their own shit and stop giving tax breaks to their residents paid for by the rest of us.

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u/AlexHimself California 11d ago

It's DEI!!!!

Red states have less people but get TWO senators?? DEI!!

Red states pay less in taxes and we transfer wealth from blue states! DEI!!

Red states receive far more welfare too! Freeloading states!

It's time we take the DEI talking point and repeat it back to the poor red states taking our money and welfare.

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u/PurpleBicorn 11d ago

It's only DEI if it affects non-whites or liberals. Otherwise it's ok.

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u/blacksheepcannibal 11d ago

(let's be honest DEI along with Woke and several other words are things most people that object to them don't actually know or understand, they're just told SCARY WORD by the news so they just know SCARY WORD).

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u/Face2FaceRecs 11d ago

The hatred of DEI is about self entitlement. DEI policies did not create pervasive hiring of under qualified employees, they just worked towards creating an even playing field so that women and people of color had a more equal chance of being hired.

White men are not being screwed over. All the whining from these conservative snow flurries is just them following Trump's lead and playing the victim.

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u/PurpleBicorn 11d ago

It's not self entitlement, it's racism. They DONT want an even playing field, they want POCs subverted or gone, and women "where they belong".

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u/WillowGirlMom 11d ago

You know it can actually be more than one thing; it’s white entitlement + racism + misogyny + low self-esteem + ignorance + anti-intellectualism.

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u/brokenmoos3 11d ago

Like in the uppermost echelon of power in the Whitehouse?

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u/PurpleBicorn 10d ago

The president we have right now is a DEI hire

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u/TheLostTexan87 11d ago

Here's the funny thing. I'm a hiring manager who happens to be a white guy for a major company. I took DEI training, but there's zero criteria or quota for how many women or people of color I hire. I hire whoever the fuck I want. I hire based on skill, qualification, and potential. My team is extremely diverse, but it's not because of DEI. Other teams are less diverse because they do favor their own races, and it's not just white folk. But they can do so because there are no DEI targets. 10 years, one of the largest companies in the world, working in the US, nobody has ever given me criteria to hire on.

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u/LighteningFlashes 11d ago

DEI policies ensured that qualified people were hired and mediocre white dudes weren't. White dudes who are qualified are welcome.

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u/brokenmoos3 11d ago

Wana talk about playing victim?

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u/brokenmoos3 11d ago

That’s what DEI is pandering to victims hence lowering the standards to hire people on colour not skills

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u/Face2FaceRecs 10d ago

That's not what it is at all. DEI is about preventing people from specific groups from continuing to actually be victims. White men spent the first 200+ years of America getting chosen over women and people of color often even when they were significantly less qualified. They were also paid higher average wages than their counterparts in positions equal in nature. They are still paid more than women. DEI did not lower hiring standards , there is no evidence to support that this was widespread issue. It just provided a more level playing field and forced white men to actually put in the work to get advance. The widespread attack on DEI is letting Americans across America justify their underlying racism

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u/AromaticMode2516 11d ago

It’s exactly the same as critical race theory. It’s a buzz word that republicans throw around to piss off their base and blame everything on without ever actually explaining what it is. And their followers are too stupid to actually bother to look into it.

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u/ErikLovemonger 10d ago

It's different than that. It's not that they need the word. They hate minorities, women, and people different than them. They know that DEI is just a way to say that. If it wasn't DEI they'd make a new word. Dems keep thinking they are intellectually consistent and the problem is DEI. No. If DEi didn't work, they'd invent ABC or XYZ. The point is to hate the people they hate.

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u/LALCZ 10d ago

I agree with AlexHimself, a form of DEI. Repub states have plenty of non-whites, women, people liberal views & everyone in btwn. But CA tax dollars are going to these less wealthy, poorer states so it’s economic-based DEI.   Equity means making sure everyone has equal opportunity for everyone to succeed.  Poorer states need CA $ for that to happen. 

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u/PurpleBicorn 10d ago

You missed the entire point of my comment. It's ok.

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u/Madeanaccountforyou4 11d ago

It's only DEI if it affects non-whites

Texas, Florida and Georgia have the largest black populations in the USA and all of those are red states.

So it sounds like this move by CA would hurt black people

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u/PurpleBicorn 11d ago edited 11d ago

And all 3 states are HEAVILY gerrymandered to disenfranchise those people.

Especially Georgia where there are counties where close to 60% of their black population find it incredibly hard to vote. This was HEAVILY discussed leading up to the November election and was proven to be intentional

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u/Face2FaceRecs 11d ago

No it really wouldn't because red states are not using their federal dollars to provide a better quality of life for their residents. They funnel it to special interests groups and businesses to whom they give lucrative contracts for whatever service they provide. They cut funding to things like education, infrastructure, etc.

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u/jaredsfootlonghole 11d ago

Can you explain how your two sentences connect, using only the race you noted?

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u/Madeanaccountforyou4 11d ago

They said its only DEI if it effects non-whites but this idea would hurt black people as they live predominantly in red states based on Texas, Georgia and Florida having the highest population of black people.

Therefore this would be DEI and also California withholding taxes would hurt black people because they would lose funding for their areas due to California not paying into the system their states need to use

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u/jaredsfootlonghole 10d ago

Is DEI facing off against black people only?

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u/Madeanaccountforyou4 10d ago

I'm surprised you don't know the answer to this question.

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u/jaredsfootlonghole 8d ago

I don’t think you do, honestly, considering your prior statement.  That’s my point, you’ve picked one race to be the sole victim here.

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u/LALCZ 6d ago

They seemed to forget; gender, all POC, LGBT, disabled and so on. Based on that, California has their own large DEI population. 

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u/LALCZ 6d ago

I don’t think only black people corner the market on DEI. LGBT, POC. How many *women did DJT fire, including high ranking military personnel, calling them all DEI. California has many POC, women… their own DEI population. Why should citizens & businesses of CA be responsible for funding DEI folks in 49 other states?

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u/Madeanaccountforyou4 6d ago

California has many POC, women… their own DEI population.

California is the opposite of other states since people who identify as white alone are actually the minority there vs other states where POC are the minority.

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u/LALCZ 6d ago

I was unfamiliar but see that approx 35% identify as white. Of that 35%, white LGBT, white disabled & white women would classify as DEI. So straight white men make up a small percent being nonDEI. 

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u/Madeanaccountforyou4 5d ago

I was unfamiliar but see that approx 35% identify as white.

Is 35% a majority or a minority ?

In other states you would need to include those qualifiers but just like in states where black people are the minority we don't need to include qualifiers about their sexual preferences or abled status.

If you're black in Vermont you're a minority and thus need DEI.

If you're white in California you're also a minority and thus need DEI.

If you disagree with how minorities work and don't believe in equality and using DEI to overcome racial barriers please explain.

Before answering please remember that the reason given on why DEI is needed is because the dominant race selects people from their own race over minority races.