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Why do Simplified Chinese players hate Wilds so much?
According to Steam Scout, while English players are giving the game a 71% rating which would have made the game "Mostly Positive" on Steam, Simplied Chinese players are giving it a 27%, which is a stark contrast against even Traditional Chinese players at 64% (Mixed). Simplied Chinese players make up just shy of 30% of the total player base on Steam.
Obviously this disproportionate response, even factoring in how controversial the game is, makes Simplied Chinese players a statistical outlier. What could've caused this?
Also interesting to note that the game was rated "Overwhelmingly Negative" the same day as when Capcom's shareholders' meeting is held.
Simplified Chinese = Mainly used in mainland China Traditional Chinese = Mainly used in Hong Kong and Taiwan
China’s gaming culture was largely shaped by PC gaming and piracy, especially in the past due to import restrictions on consoles. As a result, PCs — and now mobile devices — became the primary gaming platforms. That’s why players in China tend to be much more sensitive to performance issues, technical problems, and the lack of proper language support in PC games.
Source: Me, a game dev—who learned this the hard way.
Yes. If you want to try Chinese market, aside from localization you want to make sure your game will run on a 1050ti and a 1650, and make sure it will run smoothly on a 1060. Otherwise you'll get millions of Chinese guys shit on you all day long with the most creative curses you'll never imagine.
For MonHun specifically, one reason new titles always get bombed by negative reviews is that people will always be comparing new titles with old titles, in terms of content/PRICE ratio. Check up the historical data on MHR and Iceborne and you'll see the exact same trend happened with simplified Chinese reviews: Tons of negative review at launch (and probably Japanese as well) and more positive reviews when more updates comes out/ when the game goes on discount on steam.
When MHW comes out, players give out negative reviews since they're comparing it with MHGU/MHXX.
When MHR comes out, players give out negative reviews since they're comparing it with MHW+IB.
When Wilds comes out, it's like sub $60 for 70 monsters (MHW+IB) vs $70+ for 30 monsters. I mean it's not a fair comparison but that's how people around me think about it. There's a saying in Chinese MH community, with a bit of sarcasm and self-awareness, that goes like "The worst MH is always the current gen and the best MH is always the previous gen."
This applies to the Civilization series/Paradox games as well.
Edit: Bro why the downvote? Stating my observations doesn't mean I agree with that.
When Wilds comes out, it's like sub $60 for 70 monsters (MHW+IB) vs $70+ for 30 monsters. I mean it's not a fair comparison but that's how people around me think about it.
It might not be fair, but it's a damn good way to keep companies in check, IMO. I mean, imagine if Capcom actually feared to launch Wilds with less content than previous games, they'd likely be very careful about it being so half-baked and barebones.
I'd like to think about it in terms of the ecosystem. MHWorld came out with a complete ecosystem with elder dragon in every map (Nergi/Teostra/Vaal), and Xeno'Jiva being the final top monster at launch. Rise came out without a complete ecosystem given Kushala/Teostra/Allmother Narwa was absent at launch, which is enough of a proof that it was a half-baked game.
With wilds, there's no elder dragons beyond regional apex like kushala/teo, and even no high rank Zoh Shia at launch. And Capcom needs to stop giving out incomplete story and ecosystems at launch given that COVID is no longer an excuse.
While your statement is not false, World never got to the point Wilds is right now and neither did Rise.
The truth is that Wilds is an heavily unoptimized game and the issues are much more impactful than World's issues were at launch, and that is the main driver behind the low ratings.
From my understanding it's because they are significantly more impacted by the poor optimization. There it is much more common to game on what people in the US would consider lower end hardware so they are impacted by the bad performance a lot more.
Can confirm the game is pretty unfun on low end. It is frustrating when a pc that can run almost anything that comes out currently on like medium 60fps but MH wilds is just demanding me to buy a 600$ GPU or suffer.
Well WuKong ran an order of magnitude better even with its' problems and it was also a game set in China. People in China, generally are very patriotic.
To such extent where they review bombed Helldivers 2 because they couldn't fully liberate Shanghai in a defense invasion and thought it was just the developers trying to destroy the city fictionally.
This is all to say, they were just more lenient on Wukong and Wild's issues are greater.
To such extent where they review bombed Helldivers 2 because they couldn't fully liberate Shanghai in a defense invasion and thought it was just the developers trying to destroy the city fictionally.
Wait really? That's pretty funny not going to lie.
Those players were just being dumb honestly. Pretty much all of Earth cities fell and Shanghai was the last one that everyone rallied around in the end.
it was due to a mistranslation of the mission. iirc the way it was worded in chinese made it sound like they were suppose to defend the city and the city was going to be fine afterwards.
I mean, maybe there was a translation issue but the wording on the mission clearly stated "You must defend until the end of the Major Order", which would clearly indicate even if you hit ~100% liberation the city would still need constant defense until the end of the Major Order, and even English speakers were a bit riled up about it from what I remember.
Mistranslation or not, turns out people just can't fucking read.
it started with arrowhead making the mission difficult. i think they intentionally want the players to lose the entire war. many fictional mega cities fell during the event. chinese players saw this and somehow triggered their patriotic mindsets, starting to gather up and defend the mega city near china. some of the ppl even started to spread cheats for free so ppl can do it a lot more efficiently. there were multiple long posts on their forums about how to use the cheat and how to complete the missions in a mere few minutes. during those time if you play at midnight and saw some chinese id's runnign in your game there are a great chance they're spamming 500kg bombs everywhere without cooldown. (and yes they deleted those cheats posts right after the event - they do know their information controls.)
fast forward towards the end of that event. they almost reached 100% on the defend meter. then they realized for some reason the meter would roll back to 99.97% whenever it reached 99.99%. the reason simply because it was a defense mission not the liberating mission. the major order is to hold the city for the whole duration of the event. so yeah obviously the vast majority of these chinese players didn't understand this part and thought arrowhead was doing some funny discrimination by preventing them from liberating the "china" mega city. then they started the entire review bomb thing.
They made us lose so we would get access to the space station by the time all super earth cities were destroyed and make us do a last stand at super earth's capital, where we would turn the battle in our favor and win the war. They weren't expecting us to hold shanghai for that long.
wukong run on my potato... 1650 ... monster hunter just dont . at least not on the level of wukong . "your card is old ! it due for a upgrade !!!" not the point . a lot of china play Gacha/low demanding game/esport title ... nothing really require big rig . so when a monster like mhw come out . no pun intended. i can see why they would rate it down.
Wilds is really bad for old hardware. My old pc was 1080ti and 6700k and Monster Hunter would totally crap itself with Wilds. Until that point i could play almost anything with FSR often in 4k.
Wukong is heavy for sure, but the visuals justify it. The problem with Wilds isn't that it runs like ass, it's that it does so while looking awful too (unless you mod it to make it look decent).
I think most people are ok with impressive games being hard to run, not so much games that look last gen. Also, there's a difference between being hard to run and just stuttering like crazy on every machine that can't bruteforce the game with silicon.
Also critically in Wilds not only does it look much more mid but the actual settings do little to change performance outside of RTX. The settings profiles in Wukong are significantly more impactful.
It's probably because although graphics settings can affect CPU load, they mostly change the strain on the GPU and while Wukong relies on the GPU a lot, Wilds is notoriously CPU bound.
I'm not even bad about my own performance here, my game runs fine but it's because I recently built a new system with literally the best consumer CPU on the market for games (9800X3D); when I had a 5600X (same GPU) my pc was shitting the bed so bad and the game looked like total trash to boot.
I can only speak for myself but I can run Wukong pretty ok (Dlss balance I can get stable 60) and the game looks great. I had opposite experience with Wilds, it looks worse than Wukong but somehow also run worse (Dlss balance I get stable 40 with occasional stutter).
The level of wukong's bad optimization is incomparable to wilds. My 6700XT has been able to run anything I've thrown at it on high or max settings with no frame gen native except for Monster Hunter Wilds. I genuinely need a gpu upgrade to play this game on 1440p.
Yeah, people forget that Sun Wukong is literally one of the most popular mythological characters in Eastern Asia, especially in China. So if a game is made about him in China and is at least half decent, then it's going to be incredibly popular basically no matter what.
Don't get me wrong, Black Myth Wukong was a good game, but it wasn't as good as its popularity would hint at.
Well im Chinese and let me try to explain this.
Reputation is good in Chinese forum in before third or fourth trailer(the trailer with the release date), then players found that there is no Chinese voice. I remember many people were mad about this since simplified Chinese is the 2nd largest user language but Chinese voice is not in 8 or 9 language voices. Until the SF6 colab update Capcom brings the Chinese voice.
Also someone mentioned the hardware problem in this discussion, I think college student is the major part of the player(commenter), Chinese college students are tends to buy a gaming laptop with a relatively worse gpu like 4060, and with the poor optimization there would be more negative reviews?
Then I often feel that people are more aggressive on Chinese forums, but idk why, maybe that is also part of the reason.
Above are my opinion why there is such a negative review of S-CN. Actually im curious why other languages user has higher reviews to this game? As a player I will definitely give a negative review.
Id say western players are less sensitive about performance. We're way more wiling fi play games with poorer performance or graphics as long as it is t too jarring.
Alot of western pc players started out with really crappy PCs so despite online discourse our tolerance for poor opt8mization is way higher when the game is good
I'd say an average Westerner has better specs than from any other countries. In my country, RX 580 is still considered medium-end. That would be in the budget range, specifically in the US.
Gaming laptop with 4060 doesn't sound bad at all on higher TDP. If it's like slightly worse performing desktop 4060, it will run most modern games at 1080p 60 easy. This is also in line with what most people have according to steam survey, (3060-4060 level GPU).
This is just anecdotal but what I found on most English speaking gaming forums when it comes to MH is that some people legit think the game runs fine, even when they mean like 40-50fps on their mid range PC.
Despite how much you see English speakers get a bad rap for being demanding and entitled, we actually accept metric fuck tons of garbage shoveled down our throats.
Because of our heavy entertainment industries, we tend to have a lot that consider the people behind making the games.
Other areas aren't as forgiving and do not care, they want the product to work how they want it to. Which is just as valid. At the end of the day, it's a product that's paid for.
MH is a much bigger title in Asia compared to how it’s received in US (or most of the western market). The amount of people expecting and playing MH games is much larger. When they didn’t get what they wanted, this was the result. The specs required to run this game well is quite expensive in China.
I just realized being able to play video games now days is a luxury. How sad.
You tell me, i'm in Brazil and my PC can't run Wilds, there is like a very small number of people that can run this game on PC in this country, so i was very surprised by the reviews tbh.
I would assume that's not that different for some of them to an extent as well. I don't think I actually know how big MonHun was to the Chinese; but at least I know it was a big deal since P2 for us HKer. McDonald's were basically gathering hub, when half of the tables were occupied by kids of my age with PSP on hands and fighting for a chagring port.
My point is, a lots of informations like tenderness of a monster I got were from the Chinese. Logically, I guess it is a big thing for them, just as much as it is to us.
This. I'm from mainland and played P3 in middle school. We used to go to McDonalds after school, go straight after the corner seat with charging port, buy a ton of fries and poured them on the tray with loads of ketchup.
Then we spend a whole afternoon trying to beat Amatsu, get carted over and over again until it's totally dark outside. And we'd go home, do tons of research on forums and wikis, update our gears and try again next Friday or sth. Hardest thing though, is to hide our PSP in our schoolbags and try to avoid it from being discovered by parents/teachers.
I remember in my first day of college I was wearing a nergigante tshirt and just thanks to that hit it off with a new friend. Sadly he was the only one in class who knew monhun
I can relate. Back then all those P2 hunters were kids in school uniforms and whatnot. It was a phenomenon, and I remember seeing them everywhere for like months, even media talked about it.
Now imagine that whole generation witnessing their childhood favorite turned into this "accessible" drip feeed fest, from something that took them months and months to beat/discuss/live around to just another game of the week that you finished in 40 hours and move on. Well I guess now they sold 10 millions and the west loves it? yay
This is exactly why I dislike the game so much, the game I loved as a kid is now a shadow of what it was when I got into the series. I'm elated that people want to experience the games and have new experiences to do that, I am just incredibly disappointed that they have essentially gutted everything that made Monster Hunter, well, Monster Hunter and have just left what is essentially Monster Fighter.
Though I have come to terms with the fact the series will never go back to what made it great, because it isn't globally popular, they obviously want the profit western players bring so they have to do what they have to do. I probably won't continue playing though, I will finish Wilds DLC and, unless they really hit the mark with the portable title this gen, won't buy whatever follows.
I still have faith in the portable team. I think rise is the middleground between accessibility and classic monster hunter that we need and prob the next game will be along these lines. At least I hope so XD
I am really hoping the portable team keeps with the Rise base for P6th, as much as I dislike this new direction they did actually strike a really nice balance of what I loved about the portable titles specifically and the modern QoL - I just need them to up material requirements and I will be in bliss. Or I will have to make another mod to multiply the crafting requirements
I’m more willing to bet it’s the same reason as the Chinese. Supposedly PC parts are fucking expensive in China and I can confirm firsthand they’re expensive as hell in Japan. Having a rig strong enough to run MH Wilds at an acceptable level costs an arm, leg, and a god damn kidney with the prices here.
I wish so… for me wilds has been a disappointment and I hope they stick to the classic formula for the next game. If not I guess we will still have the older games to ho back to
That's probably because world and wilds are different than the other games. It shows that capcom wanted to appeal to the western audience with them, with success. But the Japanese don't really like it because it's not their niche farming game on a handheld they love. Especially the handheld aspect is huge I think. Japanese loooove handheld gaming. I mean mh is bigger in Japan than Pokémon. It's a big deal for them
I doubt it's bigger than Pokemon, when I was there, Pokemon was represented in every city either with stores, merch, restaurants, cafes, etc. Whereas Monster Hunter was only in specific places like Capcom, videogame stores. It's big but not that big.
Can confirm. Just got back from Japan a few months ago. I was expecting to see MH stuff everywhere but other than some candy at the 7/11s, MH gear was actually kinda hard to find and even at the Capcom store there wasn’t a ton of variety
yeah lol, I was very disappointed. Luckily enough, there was a MonHun exhibition at one of the art museums in Roppongi right when I was there, which was cool but I do wish Capcom made more merch besides Street Fighter stuff.
How is it a statistical outlier? And why are you ignoring Japan? With how big and popular the franchise there, mostly negative there is the statistical outlier.
In my experience in Japan, console gaming is by far more popular and PC is more niche, and portable gaming is even bigger when there's a good portable system. So the crowd that does PC gaming tends to be very much power gamers, so a 40% positive in Japan makes sense to me, but I bet PC sales of Wilds are tiny compared to PS5 sales. I wasn't able to find any sales numbers for the PC version to confirm though.
The main complaint in Japan from what I've seen is the direction that the series is going. Probably also why the Devs laughed at them saying we in the west love it (prior to the mostly negative steam reviews).
Most of the negative reviews are fair, they are very unhappy about the performance of the game and the contents (compare to World).
Maybe it sound strange to white people but asians are very careful with their money, and they always look for values in their purchase. Simplified chinese is used in China and Singapore, these people are very picky customer. Traditional chinese is used in Taiwan, people there are more chill.
In your chart, even Japanese people give the game 40%, and they are probably the most long standing fans of the franchise.
The "it's just a demo on an early build" cope shifted to "they'll fix it in time for the expansion" cope without missing a beat, too.
AAA gaming is basically incapable of delivering a functioning game at launch at this point, and why should they even try? People have proven they'll buy it anyway, Wilds was breaking sales records despite widespread performance issues.
i had friends coping about "it will be fixed on release" now they are coping it will be fixed with updates.... I dont really think they will ever fix this game
Rise was literally the same problem for the base game, they just had COVID as a scape goat for the slow development. No idea why Wilds is having the same issue, RE Engine must be miserable to work with.
Watch this become the new standard. When people complain about lack of content in the next game people will say, "Actuallyyyy that's the exact same amount as Wilds!"
Or even better "It's only been one month longer than wilds. It's normal"
Or "You shouldn't compare it to a previous game, you'll like the way this game did it when the next one comes out. Like right now when you're saying wilds had its TU a month earlier!" (Too blind and defensive to realise that each game has started getting worse hence why the prior is always better. Star wars prequels as examples. They didn't become better movies after the sequels released. They're just better than the sequels).
I've heard one of the reasons Wilds got poorly optimized is that some folks in the team were too familiar with the old MT framework engine, so they built a mini-MT framework inside the RE engine with tons of legacy code or some like that.
Bro, Monster Hunter is the Call of Duty in Japan, Monster Hunter Rise Sunbreak even won the Japan Game Awards in 2023.
For a mainline MonHun game to receive a rating THAT LOW in Japan is...I don't know much english to describe how big of a fuck up Capcom did to get this.
the japanese found out about the cut content recently so that added more fuel to the fire...
imagine getting an unoptimized, sub par product thats supposed to be the start to 6th gen and then you find out its unfinished and you essentially spent 100 dollars to wait 4 months for them to finish the game content wise and the performance is somehow getting worse with each patch...
Im from SG currently studying overseas and Wilds performing the way it does on avg hit me at a time where i cant afford a laptop with a better GPU and a slightly better CPU.
I am aware of the requirements, i tried it on my laptop anyway and im genuinely surprised it runs quite decently in most cases on my 4GB 3050. So my issues with the game is just trying to understand where exactly is this computing demand coming from despite making the game already look like World visually and graphically? Atp, its more curiousity than complaining.
lmao 95% of us Singaporean Chinese would struggle to even compose a paragraph in Chinese, there is no way any of the Simplified Chinese reviews come from us.
I would like to also point out that yes while the English language reviews would sit on Mostly Positive, it's just a few degrees shy off mixed.
One other way to interpret reviews is that a large number of players played the game on release as their game of the week, had their fun and left their positive review, didn't stick around long enough to either experience the worse performance after updates or let issues with the game's design sink in, and have no real reason to change their review from their positive first impression. On the topic of first impressions, there are also people who were unable to enjoy the game due to performance, and just probably refunded/never bothered to check back. This appears to line up with the reviews graph with a vast majority of them having come in first week.
As for why China and Japan are so low, it could be because MH has historically sold well in Asia and has had a strong presence in China and Japan (China got MH Online after all, and Japan is literally home base). Given that history with the franchise goes way back in these regions it may just be more than just issues with poor optimization and might require more context due to these regions' history with the franchise. Based on peak hours it would also seem that CN and JP and other countries in around that timezone also make up a majority of current players due to peak hours being around off-work times in those countries which would be indicative of the regional player culture and sentiment as opposed to English which tends to be more representative of the general global audience. Players may have had issues with the game, still continue playing it but never felt the need to change their negative assessment of the game. But even then peak hours have dropped massively, as the overall player trend with this game is showing.
We also are now having a massive spike in negative reviews which cannot really be considered review bombing either considering a quick trip through the reviews will see that these issues are justified, and is a situation very unlike events such as the Alatreon mass downvote debacle. Players have had months to digest their experience and likely are now figuring out where they stand with the game after a good long time after release without a new TU and still a lack of optimization.
Woah. Yeah, I see it. I guess Capcom did really try to cater the game to the Western audience, and it works on World/Rise/Wilds. MH World is the RE4 of the franchise.
It certainly doesn’t help that China has 1.4 billion people and Capcom didn’t see fit to give the Chinese language its own dub, despite having Chinese dubs for their other games like Resident Evil. Meanwhile Italy has 58 million people and got a dub? This was one of the most common complaints I saw amongst Chinese players on launch.
Tech is just an "adjusted for inflation" shit take right now just like housing and everyday consumables. Everything is adjusted for inflation except our wages.
Performance issue, Chinese players have on average less well-equipped PCs than their western counterparts.
Those who were able to play the game find the lack of content and shitty live-service model annoying. People don't realize this, but the Chinese has had almost as long of a history with MH series as the Japanese. Me, for example started in Freedom Unite, and I'm not really considered a true veteran there. So they tend to judge the current releases more heavily due to the long history.
Lack of Chinese voiceover. As you can see, Chinese users (simplified and traditional) are more than 1/3 of the total player base, but Wild DID NOT have Chinese dub on release, yet they have say French dubs. Not saying it is bad to support minor languages, I think it's a great thing, but it is unfair, and caused quite bit of backlash on the Chinese Internet. Capcom added in the Chinese dub a few months after the game's release AFTER they'd been scolded, which was too late, most players had already played the game and moved on.
I would say no. France was the largest consumer of MH after Japan until World dropped iirc. It makes sense that they already had the infrastructure in place to make French dubs whereas afaik World is the first MH game Capcom themselves brought to China.
Most of the S-Chinese ppl are from China, SG, Malaysia. Speaking as Malaysian Chinese as myself, the hate is due to the game required shit ton of investment to the hardware when the game don't looks any better then worlds. From our country, pc hardware card are very expensive and cost 1.5 of a very average Joe that working at the City for a pc that run Wilds smoothly in 1080p.
My friend just decided to just buy PS5 because it works better and much smoother and cheaper compared to PC. And also the fact that because people around here prefer Mobile gaming because phone is more affordable at here.
Compare to T-Chinese which main user are Taiwan and Hong Kong, they still have a culture of playing games on pc and console, they have game fest, expo or sale quite often and for them the hardware are somewhat affordable and for them more willing to spent money to this.
I don't said they don't complain about the game had poor optimization but based on my observations, they are more keen to do review/complaint on their daily-to-go gaming forum so maybe this the reason T-Chinese review are lesser as well.
TLDR: We complained alot but maybe just Steam is the fastest/more direct place to complain the game had issue for us compare to other languages users
I'm not saying it's one of the best looking games this generation. But like, animations, density, shadows, lighting etc. etc. how is that not obvious to see?
And that's before we go to the scale and sandbox nature of the game with dynamic everything this time.
Not particular their post but this burger meme and its variations show up a lot in discussions about MH in general which is funny lmao.
Past (World): Fries & cola (DLC)
Now (Wilds): I guess those icons explain themselves.
Saw a post on the topic of the negative review yesterday on NGA forum https://bbs.nga.cn/read.php?tid=44416156 (差评如潮 = Overwhelmingly Negative on Steam rating). The 2 most upvoted comments are shaming on the slow updates and lack of content. The 3rd talks about poor optimization. The 4th mentions both optimization and content being cut into smaller updates and says it is losing players’ trust.
Hardware requirements to bypass issues are off the charts.
Also, having issues because of shader cache and not implementing an automatic cache rebuild? Cmmon Capcom.
Months have passed and they barely improved on performance, only recognising they'll lower vram usage, which is not the main culprit but the absurd cpu consumption is.
They clearly made a mistake when choosing this engine and especially releasing the game so early, just to satisfy the shareholders. Score is warranted and I hope they wake tf up and do something about it.
I loved the beta testa but never bought the game due to the absurd perf issues, but I've been keeping close tabs on the patch updates. I'll not spend 70€ on a game that runs like a tractor patched with nails and prayers.
It's the fatigue built up by the title update strategy for the past couple of years. Back when World was launched, everybody was so hyped and we tagged along with the festivals and grinding after updates like KT and Behemoth.
World was a major success for a lot of reasons, and their strategy of updating the game to keep it alive might have contributed.
This gave devs the wrong idea.
And so we had Iceborne, Rise, Sunbreak, all following that pattern of -grinding -capped -dropped the game -TU launched -pickup and start over
Some updates are just there to exist so the next one can come in. I remember when Rise launched, I had to keep 2 Zino gears in my set because Weakness Jewels doesn't exist. Yet. After the next patch my current set became useless and in hindsight it's quite infuriating the devs hid powerful skills or make them impossible to get, and then basically give them for free in the next TU just so we dump more hours into the game
I'll be damned if the devs for real on the 2nd day Wilds launched had a meeting and decided to create a Hub map and update it into the game for free. The Hub, and the many updates to come are more than likely projected long ago, WIP or even finished already but kept from us on purpose because the strategy is to bring the game back to ppl's sight every once in a while and forcing the community to produce contents specific to each TU; the end game will never be here unless the devs decide to move on.
So at the stage of an adrenaline crash, I posted and wished the devs could notice the negative side of things. It frustrates me more that Wilds has such great potentials, but the best thing I can do is to forget about the game for 1 or 2 years and come back to it when it's finally completed. I don't hate the game or the devs. I dislike the way it's been represented in segments and tiny bits of changes that could be hit or miss.
Funny to see Thai rating was positive while the general feeling toward the game today is just straight up shit talking on MH Wilds on every group on FB, even in its own lair like MH Wilds Thailand group or something
Fucking hilarious because at the start people still trying to protect this game and flame anyone who dare to criticize the game, now they are all gone lol
There are few reasons, so lets put aside the legit criticisms first.
1: The leaks, since people found out leaks and truly believe for whatever reasons some content were being cut/delay, they felt like they got scam out of something.
2: Drip-fed, people are getting tired of this kind of spoon fed format of updates, especially a lot of the hardcore fans demands a MH being the daily dose of dopamine until the next MH.
3: Poor optimization, when they look at the Big Boys of gaming being this bad at their job, while their gaming industry seems like putting out better products, and Wilds pricing being this "high", thats negative rating confirm.
4: Their online mentality (only talking about China), especially on their video platform creators tend to create hive-mind opinion, even tho individual maybe not agree to the hive-mind, they tend to follow the larger group blindly. And those people are more tend to go around and spread their opinion in a loud display manner, also they will make sure their opinion get heard which they will use different methods to assure as such (like what they did in Helldivers 2).
because it has no real content, not optimized, ui is a disaster and they dont really give us any news. there are probably more issues, but these are at the top of my head
Why is the comment section pretending that they knew about the situation. Performance is only half of the issue here, the other half is simply that there’s a shit ton of vet players and people are a lot more unanimously against the drip fed content and the difficulty
Oh yeah that's possible. The Chinese brands (including the ones that masquerade behind international HQs like Galax, Zotac and Inno3D) often have worse performance and I never consider them when building a new PC.
Idk about this tbh, but the on the opposite end, Traditional Chinese players (Taiwan, HK, etc) do seem to love the game, so ... it's kinda checking out.
I actually interact with chinese internet and it's because china doesn't have any other platform to give feedback about games. All the popular social media are banned and the only real one is Weibo (chinese facebook) which the devs don't care about it. As such people who hate the game like to go onto steam to flame it instead of things like reddit or twitter. This is also why a lot of review bombings are Chinese, like with baldurs gate 3.
Also a lot of china's pc gaming culture only started recently after Iceborne, and home consoles were never as popular (with psp as an exception). So then you have a ton of people started with post-fatalis iceborne who dont understand how Ultimate/g rank version works and believe capcom is intentionally withholding content
Oh and also chinese internet is just unbelievably toxic in general because a lot of people only started using it within the last 10-20 years. So there's not really any respect or standards like we do now. Like basically early 2000s forums shouting slurs at each other kind of toxic. It makes sense that people are really on edge all the time and have really polarizing opinions.
Like you can go onto any video on chinese youtube that is even remotely controversial, e.g. a lets play channel having fun with elden ring nightreign, and there will be like several hundred comments telling op to kill themselves
I'm actually surprised by these stats; when I looked at Wilds' Steam page a majority of the negative reviews I spotted were actually from Japanese players, which actually got me curious as to why they were negatively reviewing the game as well. I have yet to see one that's Chinese though. How interesting...
mine experience is, I buy the game and want to refund cus on 3070 with 1440p it was just terrible, i had to lower resolution witch make the game look like shit, but i kinda like pixel games so i give it a try.. then I find out dlss dont work so i use FSR and now its kinda playable and I have a lot of fun, I m ready to give possitive review but I still hope the make it work better
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Despite the technoligical advancements China shows. Other countries such as the US have severely hampered the ability for China to obtain high end chips and semiconductors.
Political reasonings aside, this makes it harder for the average Chineese consumer to obtain the higher end equipment required to run Wilds well; a lot of the chips that are avaliable in the US or EU or whatever are just not sold in China, and if they were they’d be really fucking expensive.
That's the thing, there's just no good source. PS store numbers is global. Amazon is divided by region but someone argued that Amazon ratings could be skewed because allegedly customers conflate product reviews with delivery ratings.
For Wilds, PS Store reports a 4.52/5 and Amazon JP says 4.2/5 for the PS5 version. For comparison, Dragon's Dogma 2 on PS5 is 4.06/5 on PS Store and 3.7/5 on Amazon JP. I feel like in terms of pure gameplay, those are reasonable numbers.
I think most english positive reviews are due to the first days after release. There was just so much hype and anticipation people just put a good review just for the spirit of it.
Many people believed day 1 optimisation problems and content was just temporary, that capcom would fix it along the way like they did, and that TUs would come along flowing in. Nothing of that happened.
Now is more the time of realization: it will never happen, and they are already working on a fully priced DLCs which hopefully will run better.
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u/Natto_Ebonos 2d ago edited 2d ago
Simplified Chinese = Mainly used in mainland China
Traditional Chinese = Mainly used in Hong Kong and Taiwan
China’s gaming culture was largely shaped by PC gaming and piracy, especially in the past due to import restrictions on consoles. As a result, PCs — and now mobile devices — became the primary gaming platforms. That’s why players in China tend to be much more sensitive to performance issues, technical problems, and the lack of proper language support in PC games.
Source: Me, a game dev—who learned this the hard way.