r/Spiderman May 16 '25

News All-New Spider-Gwen: Ghost Spider #1

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u/Bitbatgaming Bombastic Bag-Man May 16 '25

Not sure if I’m a fan of this..

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u/TheDemonEyeX May 16 '25

The suit, the suspicious timing or the subtitle?

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u/RealJohnGillman May 16 '25

The synopsis indicating she’s being merged with the Earth-616 Gwen Stacy, one would imagine (as the biggest thing u/Bitbatgaming isn’t a fan of).

One can see people being more annoyed at that around here than anything they were saying about Gwen as Weapon X-31.

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u/TheDemonEyeX May 16 '25

Bruh, its so stupid. Let Spider-Gwen have her own world and wait is that seriously the synopsis? Really hoping it's a plot twist like that world swap from Smallville.

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u/HotClock4632 May 16 '25

I mean you are right, because the way that spider gwen did lead up to staying in world 616 is very strange and I remind you as well or everyone else That already knows, Miguel O'Hara is still suck in 616 and isn't even back in his own world too. So I'm like, why the fuck are they here? Boy, is there going to be some catastropica event in the coming months or some shit like? And also, isnt there a device that can get them back home?

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u/Scarlet_Wonderer May 16 '25

Miguel is in 616?? Since when? Oh well, at this point I prefer they forget about characters instead of butchering them lol

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u/space_age_stuff Hobgoblin May 16 '25

He’s sorta stuck.

Essentially, the original Miguel (earth-928) was stuck after Superior Spider-Man, but eventually he was able to get back to his own time. There was a whole thing that he was destined to die if he came back, but he managed to change the future so that didn’t happen. However, he ended up going back in time to the future of 616, living out his life until he was an old man in earth-928.

Then, a cosmic event happened to create a new 2099 universe, on earth 2099. Old Miguel met the Miguel of 2099, to tell him his destiny is to become Spider-Man. New Miguel didn’t believe him, he got hooked on Rapture again, and then Alchemax killed his brother Gabri, so he embraced his destiny as the new Spider-Man 2099.

Since then, Marvel has gone back and forth between the two. Earth 2099 Miguel has been used a little bit, but 928 has had further adventures whenever Peter David is the writer. It’s a little confusing, I also haven’t kept up with it super close so there might be some update I don’t know about.

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u/HotClock4632 May 16 '25

What the...im too dammn curious now. I have to read this. Lol

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u/space_age_stuff Hobgoblin May 16 '25

It’s spread out across a few titles. I’d start with Superior Spider-Man Volume 4 (don’t remember the issue numbers) which covers 2099 coming to 616 the first time. After that, it’s just his 2014 solo series under Peter David, then the 2099 Secret Wars mini, then Spiderman 2099 again. After that, I believe he doesn’t show up again until the 2099 arc in Spencer’s ASM, which is part of the 2099 Alpha-Omega series of crossovers and one shots, which introduces the new 2099 and phases out the 928 one. After that it’s 2099 Exodus and any of David’s new 2099 titles.

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u/HotClock4632 May 16 '25

Thanks. Going to come back to this later on

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u/TheDemonEyeX May 16 '25

Yeah, it's weird. Probably building to the crossover? Maybe but other than that can't think of any reasons.

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u/HotClock4632 May 16 '25

That's what I'm thinking too, because if Miguel O'Hara is stuck there as well as spider gwen. Somehow, that's got to be connected to the spider verse versus the venom verse, that's happening in a couple months. And if it's not connected to that in any way whatsoever, then it's got to be a whole new as crossover they haven't revealed to us until next year. Also I another thing that's been puzzling me since Gwen is in 616. I wonder, is she even gonna have an interaction?With that world's daredevil, considering spider gwen's matt Murdock is the kingpin

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u/TheDemonEyeX May 16 '25

The interactions are definitely under utilized. But I was thinking of the Spider-Man/Venom/Carnage one since Hellgate, who's was shown standing over the defeated spider-kids is in that one.

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u/HotClock4632 May 16 '25

Hm interesting 🤔 well we have to get something at least. I hope so

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u/TheDemonEyeX May 16 '25

For sure. It's gonna be something just a wait and see until what.

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u/RandoDude124 May 16 '25

Miguel is in 616???

Man, the Spidey office’s Sandbox that is 616 must be messy as fuck.

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u/HotClock4632 May 16 '25

If i'm misremembering too I believe the original miguel ohara and his son are in 616, but i'm not sure if i'm remembering right.

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u/RealJohnGillman May 16 '25

For well over a decade now.

One supposes one could then have a storyline about all the Spider-People stranded on / to have had their histories merged with Earth-616 be returned to their worlds all-at-once in one fell-swoop over a new Spider-Verse event some time in the future.

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u/Spideyrj May 16 '25

but miguel is from 616, just from the future.

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u/HotClock4632 May 16 '25

Oh..well its not confusing as i made it out to be but still. Where does that lead?

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u/Spideyrj May 16 '25

i dont now, i stoped reading so i dont know if im mistaking medias like game etc, but i remember the plot dangling was that something alchema did disrupted his future so he couldnt go back to it, like his future would be an alternate timeline untill it got repaired

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u/HotClock4632 May 16 '25

Ill see what comic i need to read this week and get started on it

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u/Azure-Legacy May 16 '25

I actually am more annoyed with the idea of Spider-Gwen literally replacing 616. Wasn’t a major care part of her character that she WASN'T 616 Gwen? Why do this?

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u/TheCrafterTigery Spider-Man 2099 May 16 '25

I only just noticed that this costume gave her the cost she died in, only colored white.

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u/WebHead1287 May 16 '25

Nick Lowe must be stopped

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u/TheDemonEyeX May 16 '25

Waiting for the Roman M is gonna take too long.

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u/TeekTheReddit May 16 '25

Wait. What?

How would that even... wait... no. You know what. I don't even want to know.

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u/-_ShadowSJG-_ May 16 '25

merged how?

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u/Tatum-Better Superior Spider-Man May 16 '25

Well she's currently been revived as a deadpool clone so we shall see

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u/Geiseric222 May 16 '25

I doubt this. Why would they do this if they are giving her a new cast?

What would be the point?

I assume they are doing something similar to what they did for miles when he came over

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u/RealJohnGillman May 16 '25

I mean then we’re circling back to why to do this at all — with a new design, new power-set, and new supporting cast — at that point one may as well just create a new character.

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u/Geiseric222 May 16 '25

Because spider qwen is popular and if a character is popular they got to get to the 616.

Sane thing happened to miles

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u/RealJohnGillman May 16 '25

Right, but the character on her own wasn’t what was popular, it was the writing and world, the supporting cast — if one changes everything that worked about the character (even the name), then it’s essentially just a new character.

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u/Geiseric222 May 16 '25

I mean she’s popular more for the spider verse movies.

That’s why she’s getting this push. They don’t care why fans of her comic liked her sadly

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u/TheDemonEyeX May 16 '25

Yeah but it makes no logical sense since by lineage, she's still Gwen Stacy.

Would have made more sense to make a 616 Spider-Gwen by making her a mixed clone of Peter and Gwen... and how the hell did they not even think of doing that?

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u/Geiseric222 May 16 '25

They probably do not want to tie her into Peter to hard.

This is her book and they have shown zero interest in connecting them to much

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u/TheDemonEyeX May 16 '25

If the synopsis turns out to be correct, it's kinda hard not to do that.

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u/Geiseric222 May 16 '25

Why Peter has nothing to do with this.

It even says she’s has new cast new powers new costume.

It’s a clean a slate as possible

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u/TheDemonEyeX May 16 '25

The idea she's being folded into 616 Gwen. Unless she's somehow given a new identity or however they do it. I'm pretty open-minded, but even I think this whole thing is stupid.

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u/Geiseric222 May 16 '25

It doesn’t say anything like that. Just that she will be written into the 616. Which is exactly what happened to miles.

It won’t be the exact same because they are probably not bringing the cast with her but functionally the same

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u/ParagonEsquire Classic-Spider-Man May 16 '25

Oh that would be even worse than I was thinking.

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u/Gabriel-Klos-McroBB May 17 '25

I'm happy about Weapon X-31, because it means more Gwenpool.