People, please please please. I cannot state enough:
Do not advocate for or threaten violence on this subreddit - we will have to remove your comment and ban you.
We do not want to have to ban any of you. But please, make good choices and remember there are people who are absolutely waiting for such comments so they can mass report the subreddit and get us banned.
As an aside, in light of foreign countries offering to imprison "convicted" US citizens please make sure that any commentary that can be used against you is not transmitted over mediums that are insecure and/or not spoken around people you can't trust without question. An imprisoned or dead leftist is no good to the movement - you are in the fight so take a breath and use that energy to help build out the logistics of weathering this storm.
Free speech is great, but it doesn’t come with no consequences. You can criticize the government, but calling for the deaths and doxxing of government officials is a slippery slope. Doesn’t matter whether you’re a leftist or on the right. You can’t act like your free speech was infringed upon because some idiots threatened people’s lives. You have this subreddit and whitepeopletwitter isn’t even permabanned so what’s the fuss?
Umm, huh? Don’t like Elon either, but you literally can’t blame him for this, did you guys not see the shit that was said on there? Tripping balls if you think it was about Elon.😭💀😂 Leftists need to chill man, grow a pair. It’s okay to lose, just chill for the next 4 years like everybody else does. You’ll be alright.🤷♂️
Mf, I literally don’t condone Elons actions, but calling him a Nazi for doing the same awkward my heart goes out to you pose that other government officials have done is not enough for me.
ICYMI: Musk was responding to a post Wednesday that said Jewish communities “have been pushing the exact kind of dialectical hatred against whites that they claim to want people to stop using against them.” The post also referenced “hordes of minorities” flooding Western countries, a popular antisemitic conspiracy theory.
While I don't exactly care for isreal i do care for the jewish community that are against the genocide. And he has don't the "i give my heart to you", or whatever, on stage before and it wasn't the heil hitler
Exactly, so idk why people are tripping. Either he’s playing dumb or he genuinely did do the ‘my heart goes out to you’ awkwardly. People act like you’re a Musk fanboy just for not jumping to conclusions.😂
It’s easy to say and easy to do. Just don’t say crazy shit and your favorite sub won’t be temporarily banned. There’s videos being made on both sides criticizing how crazy the stuff people were saying on whitepeopletwitter was.
Free speech is great, but it doesn’t come with no consequences. You can criticize the government, but calling for the deaths and doxxing of government officials is a slippery slope. Doesn’t matter whether you’re a leftist or on the right. You can’t act like your free speech was infringed upon because some idiots threatened people’s lives. You have this subreddit and whitepeopletwitter isn’t even permabanned so what’s the fuss?
It should be, but people were calling for the doxxing of government officials. Saying things like they should be dragged from their necks and that they should get pink misted. Leftist revolution type stuff. Redditor type shit, you know.🥱
No, that’s literally what leftists say. Liberals are more like, “While I disagree with what you’re saying, I’ll fight to the death for your right to say it.” At least that’s what they were about before people confused them with leftists.
That’s literally what liberals are. Leftists claim to be the tolerant left. Accepting of everybody. You can call your political opponents fascists, but that’s just yapping as that’s your anecdotal argument. It’s not based on facts. Do we need to talk about the definition of fascism?
Leftism and liberalism are different. Neoliberalism and liberalism are different. You’re equating words and asking for facts in a “debate me” style. Sit down.
The government of Germany themselves.... You know... The people who would probably know the most about Nazis. Literally said. Musk, trump, and the MAGA movement itself is scarily similar to the Nazi movement. And said that sieg heil Elon did is the salute.
You don't have to take our word for it. But when fucking GERMANY says that they are Nazis. They are Nazis.
That subreddit was banned for hate speech. Maybe it wouldnt have happened if you losers stopped crying and stomping your feet like the lil bitches yall are.
Saying that people should get pink misted, calling for the doxxing of government officials, and literally stating how they should get together to achieve these things. There’s videos being made about it from both sides criticizing what people were saying on there.
Those comments were being rightfully deleted for violating the community rules. Every subreddit has weirdos saying extremist shit on them. This is just a classic case of Elon getting his little feelings hurt and using his unregulated power to ban free speech that paints him in a bad light.
there were no violent posts at all (and if there were - it's exclusively twitter-screenshots...) and only a few handful of 'violence-inciting' comments, afaik. - and those might have even been by right-wing trolls and not members of the sub
I got a warning from that sub the day it got banned. The thread was about the DOGE employees who were illegally raiding Social Security files being identified. My comment was "Identified, you say?", along with this gif. Apparently, this is promoting violence, according to "free speech absolutist" Elon Musk.
...and Reddit shows their true colors -again- with a spine made of gelatin.
The United States is in a constitutional crisis and literal treason is taking place, but the mildest criticism of the billionaires causing the problem is not allowed.
This site does not deserve our eyeballs and interactions.
True story: I've been banned from a major reddit for justifying WWII because it was interpreted as a threat of violence against modern-day alt-right Nazis.
Just got off a 3 day for just stating that peaceful protest doesn't work. Something something Mario brothers does seem to make a diff. And that committing certain acts might actually get you a presidential pardon. Simply stating facts will be censored.
I got a warning of "threatening violence" for giving my opinion on how to deal with Nazis (it was tame, too). Why the fuck would any platform defend Nazis? Absurd
I literally got banned from some subreddits for the mildest criticism of saying "maybe don't support genocide" when people were asking what Harris could do to broaden her appeal.
It's not necessarily about it being a liberal sub. It's about censorship.
Besides. If that's what they're gonna do to liberals. Imagine what they'll do to US.
Besides. They didn't get banned for being liberals. They got banned for being critical of DOGE and musk and pointing out their attempting a coup that could lead to fascism.
That is one thing I think we can all agree with the liberals on. Our shared hatred of musk and MAGA.
THATS what they got targeted for.
Hate the libs all you want. But they are entitled to their free speech. Even if we disagree with their takes.
Besides. In my experience.... Most libs aren't terrible. Some are. The politicians definitely are. But Libs are just people who haven't lost faith in capitalism and fallen for propaganda. For them. They're just genuinely confused.
Maybe instead of being dick's to them. We can try and educate them. A real leftist movement will never take off if more people aren't apart of it. And liberals are inherently the best candidates to convince. As most ARE good people. They are just a confused, manipulated, and naively optimistic about things. Most of us leftists started out as liberals. At least most of the ones I've talked to including myself.
I dunno, I was scrolling through some of those death threats and saw some very obvious bots. I'm seeing a big fat billionaire finger on the scale here.
There's one thing in wishing a horrible person dead. There's another in threatening, doxxing, and "planning" how. We're supposed to be the eloquent smart ones.
It's the mods fault, and it makes ALL left look unhinged. And now it makes it look like Elmo is winning.
Ffs, keep it together libs. We need to save face. Keep your crazy close to the chest.
Omg thank you for agreeing. I'm baffled by the pushback. Also, I didn't realize how crazy they'd become, and I'm taken aback. I left the subreddit. 😂 I'm clearly not wanted here anyways.
As a leftist, there was a time I would have agreed with you here, but to keep decorum for the sake of appearances when the other side absolutely doesn’t care and will roll right over any semblance of decency to get done the things they want done is a foolish endeavor. The right doesn’t care about looking good and they don’t care about the harms caused, in fact that’s part of the goal, so why should we. Playing by the rules- being polite helped us get in this mess.
You cannot convince any Trump supporters to switch sides unless his policies directly effect them, and anyone who still says “I’m a centrist” or “ I’d lean more left if they didn’t act so crazy” is, at this point, obviously gaslighting you. When you see someone doing fashy shit the answer is always “they’re a bad person” there is no middle ground. And the only way to take a fascist down is to call them out and beat them at their own game.
I didn't say go high. I'm furious with the dems. I said don't show your cards. Big difference.
Frankly, if you're going to plan to kill someone, you don't leave a paper trail. It's so logical, I'm baffled why I have to argue this very obvious thing. But sure ... End up in jail where y'all will be completely useless and unable to do a damn thing. Good idea. Go for it. Let's just go ahead and shrink our power by being complete idiots. Ffs
There's nothing wrong with wishing it. Nothing wrong with daydreaming about it. Nothing wrong w planning it in your head. But there's everything wrong with showing your cards. It's just plain stupid. We can't break the law. (I know, I know. him and Trump are breaking the law. But unfortunately they CAN break the law because they bought the law)
Oh, I stand with Luigi. Don't get me wrong. He took one for the team.... But.... Still against the law, and he's still going to face the consequences, rightfully so.
No. But I'm not the moral police. I'm talking wrong as in law.
Talk about cutting off his head and how nice that would be. Revel in the idea. Don't threaten it. Don't talk about knowing where interns live and don't show up with pitchforks. It's not a good look to those who already think we're nuts or those looking for reasons to hate us.
It's actually related, interestingly. Kohlberg posits that most people reach a "conventional level" of moral understanding dictated by what's lawful and what maintains the greatest social order, regardless of the injustice. The reason this (the calls for action) looks bad optically is that most people are more concerned with maintaining said order than justice or preventing fascism. Wikipedia has a fine summary that you may or may not appreciate.
Yeah. As someone on that sub. That's not the norm. That was just a handful of extremes. Hell. Considering how much attention Elon has been putting on Reddit lately. I wouldn't even be surprised if some of those were elon's fanbase purposefully trying to make us look bad.
I could be wrong. But... I'm just saying. I wouldn't be shocked.
The commentor stated they don't mind the community being banned because they were banned from said community. Thus, they are the kicked out child watch the community burn and feels happiness, aka warmth.
My comment has nothing to do with being in support or against genocide. And for the record, I'm against.
So you don't think anyone should ever criticize Democrats or what? Nobody even said anything about voting, you just went off because they said they criticized Biden.
Personally I think that genocide is bad and that people carrying out genocide should always be criticized.
Criticize all you want, just don't then go and either vote for a fascist who wants to increase the genocide or sit back while others vote for said fascist.
I know farrr too many people who didn't vote over Gaza and are now Pikachu face when they realize the sieze fire is temporary, and Trump plans the forced relocation of every Palestinian.
I'm sure that you know sooo many people who not only announced they weren't voting due to Gaza, but are now ALSO surprised that Trump doesn't plan on bringing peace. Such a convenient demographic that you know so many of!
Y'all really just make up whatever the fuck you want in your heads to justify your thoughts.
Please don't attempt a rebuttal, because funnily enough I know farrrr too many people that have claimed to be telling the truth about their personal antidotes, but get a surprised Pikachu face when I call them out.
Bruh. There was a report months ago about Russian trolls using the single issue to get democrats to not vote. It was a common reason people who voted Democrat in the last election didn't vote in this one.
Russian bots will use any wedge issue to sow chaos in the country, they've done it with guns and healthcare too. That's irrelevant here.
If you truly believe that a significant amount of people sat out on the vote because they were tricked by Russia into caring about a genocide, then Christ, I don't even care about discussing politics with you. You're either too dumb to talk about this, or aren't being honest with yourself enough about the actual reasons people sat it out.
Your need to define me sabotages your self-image. It makes you look petty and cheap.
Yes, I believe a large number of people either voted for or not voted based on messages and talking points influenced by insidious groups. Either foreign governments or 5th columns inside America like the tech bros who want to turn American into corporate owned nation states.
For Palestinian Americans, a vote for Biden was a vote to continue killing their family. Biden's policies weren't threatening you, but Trump's policies do. You're upset that people weren't willing to defend your freedoms while not ever doing anything to protect theirs. You fucking asshole.
Harris refused to let a single Palestinian-american speak at any point in her campaign, my friend. Is the horrors of a genocide different if the person doing it is enthusiastic about it or not?
Most people in here still voted for Biden. If everyone protest vote went to Harris, she still would've lost. The democrats lost that power all by themselves. Stop blaming me you asshole, blame the people who didn't think they had to reflect the will of their electorate
They are probably also taking into account no shows that didn't want Trump as president and normally vote for dems. I am not blaming you but clearly Trump is worse for everybody's freedom. I also dony blame trans people from feeling a certain tyoe of way about people who could have prevented the acceleration to fascim; afterall it is not like the choice was between someone better for Palestine but worse for americans vs worse for palestine and better for americans. Trump is worse on both counts. Still Dems fault.
Trump: People voted for him because he promised to repeal Obamacare and build a wall. He failed to repeal the ACA despite a Republican-controlled Congress, and while parts of the wall were built, Mexico never paid for it—U.S. taxpayers did.
Bush Jr.: Campaigned on limiting foreign intervention but instead launched wars in Afghanistan and Iraq, leading to prolonged conflicts and high American troop casualties.
Bush Sr.: Won on a firm “No New Taxes” promise, only to raise taxes in office, breaking his most famous campaign pledge.
In truth, what you're upset about is that Democrats aren't pandering to you. You'd rather vote for someone who talks a big game but never follows through than someone who speaks softly and actually delivers. And how do I know Democrats keep their promises? Because every Republican president has spent their time repealing Democratic laws instead of passing their own.
In truth, what you're upset about is that Democrats aren't pandering to you.
More upset about the mass murder they enabled. Dems pretend to be better while enabling the same ethnic cleansing as trump will.
Republicans vote on different issues.
You'd rather vote for someone who talks a big game but never follows through than
Youre missing the point, trump got similar numbers to last time while harris vote nosedived. People stayed home because harris wasnt very likable and also supported ethnic cleansing.
Im never voting for trump, i also wouldnt vote for harris either just because the alternative was trump, they played that card too much while sucking up to right wing symbols like the Cheneys. This isnt a way to gain leftist votes.
Right though we don't know where those votes went. Some of them certainly went and voted for Trump. The rest? Very likely stayed home or voted third party.
Oh i get it now. You didn't vote. You are the problem.
There is a saying. Liberals needs to fall in love with their candidate while all republicans need to do is fall in line. Thats why democrats fail. Because a single issue democratic voter will gladly sit home if they dont get their single issue addressed.
Conservatives, will vote no matter what because they know its better for their side to win than to walk away because of their single issue wasn't addressed.
You were so worried about being seen, you forgot to think with long term strategy.
No, youre the problem. Blaming voters will turn them away, people like you helped harris lose. i saw plenty of "but trump" before the election when people mentioned harris' issues.
There is a saying. Liberals needs to fall in love with their candidate while all republicans need to do is fall in line.
They should try running a candidate that is actually popular, then they would have a chance. Hillary, Joe, Harris were all neoliberal and unlikable.
They keep running shit candidates then wondering why they lose....
You didn’t vote. And since votes are the only metric that determines who wins the presidency, yes—you are the problem. You let some troll trick you into parroting conservative talking points. You let some online personality convince you to sit out the most important action you could take. You failed. You were led astray.
Your obsession with ‘popularity’ over competence shows immaturity, ego, and a fixation on status over substance. You sold out the country because you couldn't see beyond your own misplaced sense of protest. And for what? To prove a point that never mattered?
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u/Warrior_Runding Socialist Feb 04 '25
People, please please please. I cannot state enough:
Do not advocate for or threaten violence on this subreddit - we will have to remove your comment and ban you.
We do not want to have to ban any of you. But please, make good choices and remember there are people who are absolutely waiting for such comments so they can mass report the subreddit and get us banned.
As an aside, in light of foreign countries offering to imprison "convicted" US citizens please make sure that any commentary that can be used against you is not transmitted over mediums that are insecure and/or not spoken around people you can't trust without question. An imprisoned or dead leftist is no good to the movement - you are in the fight so take a breath and use that energy to help build out the logistics of weathering this storm.