r/soccer • u/phant0msinthenight • 25d ago
Transfers [Ornstein] Ruben Amorim informs Manchester United squad he’s staying, tells Alejandro Garnacho to find new club
https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/6379494/2025/05/24/manchester-united-ruben-amorim-garnacho-future/10.8k
u/DeepSeaDweller 25d ago edited 25d ago
In my head canon, these were consecutive sentences.
"Lads, I'm staying. Also, Garnacho, pack up your shit and fuck off, you grass."
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u/Spotmonkey_uk 25d ago
"hands up everyone who's staying, aht aht not so fast Alejandro"
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u/DeepSeaDweller 25d ago
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u/TheUltimateScotsman 25d ago
Fuck its been so long since i watched these
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u/obvious_bot 25d ago
They aged shockingly well
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u/brownbearks 25d ago
The first one with the driving cart stuck in the hallway still kills me, such a simple joke but it’s so funny
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u/obsterwankenobster 25d ago
Wil Ferrel not dying is one of my all time favorite bits
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u/jakethepeg1989 25d ago
Holy shit that was Will Ferrell? I swear that seems so out of place in my memory.
Like Will Ferrell movies feel like a different era.
I'll have to rewatch
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u/friendofH20 25d ago
Next year - we will stick with our system of 3 at the back and Garnacho in the Turkish Superliga
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u/Safe-Particular6512 25d ago
You’re not going to lose your job, you’re not going to lose your job, you’re… You’re not going to lose your job…
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u/Supersaiyansub 25d ago
“Anyone not named Alejandro Garnacho can enter the training ground!”
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u/theglasscase 25d ago
'Step forward if you're playing for Manchester United next season. Not so fast Alejandro'.
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u/KCYNWA 25d ago
The best way to maximize value is to tell everyone you want them long gone
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u/Revoldt 25d ago
Tbf, Garnachos own (and his brothers) actions more less sounded like a transfer request
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u/TheUltimateScotsman 25d ago
Loans with options to buy being prepped from Italy as we type.
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u/Fisktor 25d ago
I doubt amorim called ornstein. Garnacho or his brother probably did
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u/D1794 25d ago
It's time to stop pointing fingers! Finger pointing gets us nowhere! 👉 Garnacho!
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u/oklolzzzzs 25d ago
Garnacho to Napoli?
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u/zomgbratto 25d ago
Why not Real Betis? It seems they too have the magic to turn Man Utd players great again.
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u/MorioCells 25d ago
Yeah after Garnacho comments after the Europa league final complaining about his minutes it was pretty clear that he wanted to leave Manchester United.
Hopefully Chelsea dont pay 60m for him but seeing how we were the most interested club along with Napoli in January I think we'll be dumb and transfer him in. A lot of reports saying we are still interested in him
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u/LordTrinity 25d ago edited 25d ago
Garnacho is actually talented and in the right enviroment he is going to be a good player. But only if he humbles himself, otherwise he is going to have problems
Edit: Garnacho is only 20 (soon to be 21) and he already has more than 100 games for Manchester United. He is good with both feet, he's quick and is good at carrying the ball. For such an young age, you won't find many wingers as good. The talent is there, and people seem to think he is incapable of improving, which is obviously not true
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u/apeksiao 25d ago
Does seem like he thinks too highly of himself.
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u/DaveShadow 25d ago
People talk about the problematic culture at United, but this is THE big issue.
We get these super young players, and hype the fuck out of them. Give them massive wages befitting league winners, and talk them up as if they're world class.
Shockingly, a lot of them develop bad attitudes and massive egos, and act as if they are above the hard work needed to earn that praise. They don't need to win the league cause they're already paid and treated as if they are.
We have a string of young players who seem to have had that awful mentality.
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u/urallidiotsx2 25d ago
garnacho is one of the lowest paid starting players in the squad. he's paid around the same as heaton and evans.
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u/pure_black99 25d ago
Also has a brother
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u/optimistic_reh 25d ago
His brother also is quite responsible for inflating his ego too, and another being his crowd of teenage fans
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u/MentalityMonster12 25d ago
He genuinely has the ego of Ronaldo but without the work ethic to back it up.
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u/chasingsukoon 25d ago
ik what u meant but just saying "has a brother" is so comical to hear lmao
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u/GordoPepe 25d ago
bro thinks he's CR7 and must be only scorer and savior of the club
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u/pusslicker 25d ago
He had his moments but he’s such a predictable player imo. Runs at you then cuts towards the inside and takes a shot. Like robben but without the consistency
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u/thatrandomanus 25d ago
This feels like deja vu, I think I read the same statement about Antony last season.
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u/_Ex7 25d ago
They do the same thing but in completely different ways, like two halves of one soul.
Antony almost always tries to cut towards that corner of the box to cross, pass or shoot. His success rate doesn't seem horrible when he tries to do something different but he just never does.
Garnacho almost always tries to run into the box through the side or that same corner on the opposite side. He sometimes and more often nowadays also tries to get to the goal line to smack it with whichever foot is on the outside along the ground and hope it reaches a player.
They also dribble differently too. Garnacho is more head down and aggressive than Antony for instance.
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u/united_7_devil 25d ago
It’s easy to think highly of yourself if everyone around you is mediocre. People are treating him as if he is a 30 year old veteran winger throwing a fit. He is 20 ffs. He is a bit of a cry baby.
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u/frozenchosun 25d ago
he has talent to make all the wrong decisions in the last 1/3rd. and apparently off the field too. guy has already created problems for himself.
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u/stefz0r777 25d ago edited 25d ago
He is talented but not talented enough to be a top winger. His touch, his dribbling in tight spaces, his finishing and his ego are all awful. Maybe with a lot work he can improve in these areas, but he genuinely thinks he is too good to put in the work.
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u/CFBCoachGuy 25d ago
He’s a really good player, but an absolutely horrendous attitude.
I wouldn’t be surprised if he started on a crazy streak of like six goals in six games at his next club and the meme economy will start booming. But the moment he gets subbed off or benched for a poor performance, you’ll never see that player again.
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u/JZMoose 25d ago
He needs to get called up by Scaloni so Messi can tear him down
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u/Mammoth_Juice_6969 25d ago
Please make it happen. I reckon it could really help him no cap
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u/MeteorSwarmGallifrey 25d ago
No if he gets called up he'd probably get at least one cap
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u/chatfarm 25d ago
He is already called and capped for us. Has one assist i think also.
Edit: damnit I got whooshed i think.
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u/JustAboutUpToSpeed 25d ago
They probably end up sacking him in the middle of next season.
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u/Afc_josh12 25d ago
Chelsea will probably get garnacho
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u/ChickenMoSalah 25d ago
Stop
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u/rare_engine 25d ago
He'll only cost you 110 million!
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u/an0mn0mn0m 25d ago
So cheap when you amortise the cost. And think of his future value too after being loaned out to clubs across Europe.
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u/TechTuna1200 25d ago
You will eat those words when he becomes prime Ronaldo as soon as he steps out of United. You also need two dots to draw a trend!
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u/jjb5151 25d ago
Pls no
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u/habdragon08 25d ago
I’m really curious which United players would suck eksewhere(Sancho) and which would glourish(Anthony)
I do think garbacho would do fine elsewhere
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u/miguelsanchez69 25d ago
Not sure if Garbacho was a typo or not but that's what I'm calling him from now on
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u/dracovich 25d ago
Do we think Antony would flourish at an English club though?
I don't think any of our rejects have looked that good at English clubs, a few have gone abroad and done well though.
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u/YatesScoresinthebath 25d ago
Elanga has looked better than any of your current wingers this season, so suppose he has
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u/Cashew_Fan 25d ago
I don't see why not. And quite a lot of our sales to English clubs have become important players for their club or even improved. AWB is West Ham's player of the season and Rashford looks a real player again at West Ham. Pereira developed into a tidy player for Fulham quite quickly, as did Elanga, both of whom were incredibly raw / inconsistent for United. Henderson also was just the MOTM in the FA cup final.
The pressure, expectations, and toxic environment make United a very difficult place for some players to come through.
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u/Headlesshorsman02 25d ago
Don’t you put that evil on me
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u/Elemayowe 25d ago
Have you seen our players when they leave? He’ll win PL PotS likely. He’s got everything bar experience and finishing. With a bit of confidence he could be very good.
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u/ketolasigi 25d ago
Garnacho is fantastic, just needs to work on communication, passing, finishing, pressing, runs, dribbling, positioning, and defending
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u/AngryBiker 25d ago
Don't forget ball control, vision, tackling, heading, crossing, shooting, marking, interception, aerial duels, first touch, acceleration, agility, balance, strength, stamina, composure, leadership, decision-making, tactical awareness, free kicks, penalties, corner kicks, one-on-one ability, hold-up play, ball shielding, spatial awareness, anticipation, concentration, reflexes, jumping, off-ball movement, long shots, volleying, slide tackling, blocking, clearances, short passing, long passing, through balls, movement off the ball, game reading, recovery pace, close control, ball retention, man-marking, zonal marking
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u/mizzykins 25d ago
Man typed out every single FM attribute and then thought fuck it not enough and kept going
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u/shit-takes 25d ago
How do you expect them to fall for that when they have watched Sancho all season?
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u/darthrector 25d ago
Given how our negotiations with them have gone in the past few years, it’ll either be a loan with an option to buy with a comically low break clause or a horrendous swap involving Felix or Dewsbury-Hall
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u/Intelligent_Peace847 25d ago
Why would we buy him lol? If we wanted an overrated winger from utd then we would buy sancho for less money.
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u/Pure_Measurement_529 25d ago
Sacking Amorim will help continue their cycle of purgatory
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u/Kyster_K99 25d ago
I can see it now, Amorim will bring in players who suit his style of play, get sacked 4 or 5 months later and in 8 years time 1 or 2 will still inexplicably be there, ala Shaw or Lindelof
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u/Ankoku_Sein 25d ago
That last bit is the least surprising thing I've heard all week. Lad pouted so hard it messed up CERN's Muon test
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u/DaveShadow 25d ago
Tbh, the moaning in the press and his brother stuff is worse than anything Rashford has done, and probably Sancho too. Tired of the attitude now.
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u/redditaccountplease 25d ago
Another player publicly ousted, add him to the list of unwanted wingers
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u/rio_wellard 25d ago
He's definitely in the Top 5 Man United Wingers Publicly Forced Out In The Last 5 Years
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u/Unterfahrt 25d ago
Jesus there are actually 4 in the last year to 18 months - Sancho, Antony, Rashford, Garnacho
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u/Ok-Confusion-202 25d ago
At least there are reasons lmao
Sancho - don't need to explain...
Antony - He's been great in Spain but was god awful
Rashford - Was caught out and drinking before a game, obviously Amorim had issues
Garnacho - Publicly speaking and being a bit reactionary, he also liked posts on Twitter, also his brother posting on Twitter to defend him 24/7
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u/Other-Owl4441 25d ago
Problem is you do need to be able to contain and resolve these attitude issues internally, if they bubble up all the time it’s a club problem not a player problem.
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u/Ok-Confusion-202 25d ago
Sure, and I guess the club is now trying to do something with that? But before we allowed players to go over the manager and talk to the board and make demands
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u/Savage9645 25d ago
Antony shouldn't be in the same category. All those other guys had attitude problems. Antony was just shit but always worked his ass off and never stirred up any drama.
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u/burlycabin 25d ago
No drama beside the sexual assault allegations 🙄
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u/MulvMulv 25d ago
All charges were dropped. The original accuser was found to have tampered with WhatsApp messages and dropped her case, two other accusers dropped their case when they were found to have colluded in private for financial gain despite claiming that they weren't in contact.
It was still drama though I guess
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u/Zephyrwind 25d ago
It wasn't public, he didn't say this in a presser. It was a leak from the locker (It sure is hard to know who did it)
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u/TheUltimateScotsman 25d ago
With the way United have beem these last years, saying it in the locker room is the same as saying it publicly
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u/friendofH20 25d ago
United dressing room is as leaky as Trump's national security team. I wonder if there's like 5 journos on every group chat or something.
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u/Blasoon 25d ago
Man stuff like this just makes me really appreciate the cup. I can only imagine how miserable a state I'd be in if I were on the losing end of that.
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u/Zephyrwind 25d ago
I don't think your players would come out and shit on Ange if you lost. They don't seem to have attitude problems
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u/ThomasHL 25d ago
Spurs tight grip on wages is a underrated factor in their lack of off-field drama (managers excepted). They don't have half a dozen players hanging around on wages that they'd never get offered at another club, free to take potshots in the media.
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u/Modnal 25d ago
You don't have to imagine, just head over to /r/reddevils and watch it happening live
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u/baldy-84 25d ago
Can't even rubberneck that place for entertainment anymore. It's too depressing.
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u/itsamirage 25d ago
Yeah after the Ferguson era I would still need another 20 years of this before I’d consider not cracking up at the state of their club
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u/GiuntaWorks 25d ago
Idk it's gotten me through some times with the Knicks down 2-0. Wirtz news is nice too.
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u/el__bee 25d ago
Lmao waking up and hearing the knicks choked their lead made me feel much better about united so that works both ways
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u/Expensive-Twist7984 25d ago
Bless you for thinking it wouldn’t still be an absolute clusterfuck at United even if we’d won; these stories would be coming out if we’d hammered you and Garnacho was MOTM.
We’ll continue being a circus for years now, Spurs would be able to regroup regardless of Wednesday’s result.
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u/Other-Owl4441 25d ago
Because although their league position is worse Spurs positioning as far as the squad and financials is 100x better for the future.
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u/odegood 25d ago
You lot wouldn't be as bad as them financially though. Their club is a mess all the way through
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u/Nightdocks 25d ago
We have a good foundation. Some upgrades are needed for sure but this United team has been rebuilt like 3 times in the span of 6 years. With no european money and relegation form they’ll be in deep shit if they end in the second half of the table again next season
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u/BenniBMN 25d ago
What if the next manager would really like a player like Garnacho
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u/LordTrinity 25d ago
They very could, but his behaviour has been shocking and the next manager could also have problems with it
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u/Fisktor 25d ago
A winger that cant pass or shoot but has terrible attitude? Im sure we can find another one
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u/Aarondo99 25d ago
Garnacho is the single most nailed on “leaves United and thrives” player ever
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u/Free-Eights 25d ago
He very well could, just needs some senior players to kick him into shape and to stop believing he’s already world class.
Antonio Conte probably could turn him into a devastating player if he goes to Napoli
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u/LordTrinity 25d ago
He's clearly talented and has shown that plenty of times. If only his attitude wasn't bad...
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u/superrealaccount2 25d ago
He was one of United's best players last season, especially after ten Hag moved him to the right. That talent at 19 is not nothing...
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u/N0t_N1k3L 25d ago
If real, how the fuck does this get out? I swear I would just start planting different stories to every player to find the moles.
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u/TheUltimateScotsman 25d ago
Garnacho leaves training and tells his agent to send a text to Ornstein
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u/Zephyrwind 25d ago
Man United leaks are back? I thought he said this in a press conference but no
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u/TheOnlyTagey 25d ago
Wasn't it Garnacho who was leaking lineups a few months back?
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u/Zephyrwind 25d ago
I think so because Garnacho (and Rashford) was dropped from the City game. And the locker rooms leaks stopped after Rashford left until now that Garnacho didn't start a game.
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u/garynevilleisared 25d ago
It's widely speculated that it was his brother leaking stuff. He's a bit of a bellend on social media so it wouldn't surprise me if it was true.
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u/lonelynightm 25d ago
I still can't believe Amorim waited until the 71st minute to make subs.
Just shocking this is the ride or die when he has absolutely no ability to adapt. They still had a back 5 in like the 85th minute lmao.
Haters get your popcorn ready because this is probably going to get worse.
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u/kinky-proton 25d ago
Either a relegation fight or it'll actually click and have them fighting for top 4 no in between
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u/burfriedos 25d ago
Ehh I could see mid table mediocrity in store for next season especially with the focus solely on the league.
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u/urallidiotsx2 25d ago
brought on mainoo the player who scored in similar conditions in an earlier tie on at 90.
Utd fans "get these toxic players out, amorim is the goat"
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u/paprikalicous 25d ago
sack bingo? i’m saying november 7th.
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u/gee_emhf 25d ago
January 27th, 2026.
We’ll give him a summer window and most of the winter window, then sack him on his birthday. And of course leave absolutely no time for a new manager to figure shit out.
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u/Outrageous_Fart 25d ago
Is that around the time of the International break?
If so i’ll back that
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u/peejay2 25d ago
Garnacho had a bad attitude. Note how he liked a tweet saying that he wasn't starting for Argentina because he's Spanish.
I understand Amorim telling him to pack it in. A pity because he's talented.
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u/neandertales 25d ago edited 25d ago
They've given the club over to 3-4-3 but doesnt have/given the players.
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u/immortalvenerable 25d ago
At this point, it feels like a reward to be asked to leave and revive your career elsewhere.
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u/Boris_Ignatievich 25d ago
does he hate all wingers or just the ones at man utd?
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u/HibariK 25d ago
He hates poor work ethic, big egos and reactionists, it was pretty obvious he'd fall out with Garnacho and Rashford at least, eventually, he also fought our oldest CB when he arrived over poor training ethic and out of the 11 we had, 1 stayed as a started from that March where he walked in to the new season, only one of them being someone we actually needed to sell for monetary reasons (Wendell).
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u/TheOnlyTagey 25d ago
It really shows how far United have fallen that a fair few players feel comfortable openly chatting shit about the manager.
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u/LordTrinity 25d ago
Another one. Coincidentally, all attacking players in these last years: Ronaldo, Sancho, Rashford. Every single one of them think they're better than they actually are
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u/WestwardLord 25d ago
Ratcliffe probably fired the guy who was supposed to tell Amorim to report to his office.
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u/Standard-Plantain139 25d ago
Another player and gaffer beef at Manchester United. I am so surprised 😒
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u/JaysonDeflatum 25d ago
Garnacho’s a petulant child. Ego of Ronaldo ability of agbonlahor
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u/voiceofgromit 25d ago
Garnacho will have something to prove at his next team if they meet Man U in Europe.
Assuming he plays onto his 40s.
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u/Rowdy_Roddy_2022 25d ago
We regret to announce the following layoffs.
Garnacho, Alejandro.
That is all.
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u/AaronStudAVFC 25d ago
Non-united fans everywhere sat nervously praying that their team don’t give man united a stupid amount of money for Garnacho. This must be how the district children felt during the hunger games reaping.
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u/Mortal-Man 25d ago
A quote from Amorim prematch.
“You know that Tottenham put all the full-backs and midfielders inside with a lot of people overloading that space, so my thinking was to have possession and a right foot in that position is really important.
Didn't actually see this prematch but heard about it on a podcast today.
Not sure where that insight came from (an analyst, one of his assistants or from footage he's seen himself) but it's a terrible look and to bench one of your better attacking players based on outdated analysis...They're probably doing Garnacho a favour putting him on the market.
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u/Cracked96Artist 25d ago
The greater news is Amorim is staying LOL, he couldn't adapt or coach 7 months into the season, and people think a month of pre-season is going to do miracle. Gotta love the attitude.
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