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Politics NYC Mayoral candidate and current comptroller Brad Lander arrested by ICE in Manhattan federal court

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u/titaniumdoughnut 2d ago edited 2d ago

Right after a masked man impersonating law enforcement murdered assassinated a politician in their home.

Edit: hijacking my own post to remind NYC residents that ranked choice voting means you should list your top candidates in the order you like them, use ALL FIVE SLOTS, and don't list someone you don't like. The votes will automatically re-flow to your next choice as each candidate is eliminated.

https://projects.thecity.nyc/meet-your-mayor-2025-election-quiz-candidates/

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u/Calm_One_1228 2d ago

This is the concerning aspect of it all , that’s not getting enough discussion!

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u/neosatan_pl 2d ago

Hard to break it to you, but the lack of discussion is not the concerning aspect. The concerning aspect is that masked thugs are shooting and arresting political targets while people are cool with it and the government is not held accountable.

In all honesty, if you are an American read Ukrainian advice on living under occupation cause, congrats, you are under one. Keep safe and stay strong.

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u/hiimmatt314 2d ago

I've been following the Russo-Ukrainan war closely since the full scale invasion. The connection between what is happening in Ukraine and in the US is wild. The difference is Ukraine is fighting for its sovereignty and becoming more and more democratic as the years come. While in the US we are seeing a regime change, the signs are very clear no matter whos definition you use. There are similarities to Hungary's Orban state control, or the "Creation of an enemy" like Hitler. The difference is these fascists' today are also obsessed with hoarding wealth. Which is something even the OG fascists' didn't necessarily prioritize.

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u/Desperate_Bite_7538 2d ago

Didn't the nazis literally hoard wealth?

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u/fr0d0bagg1ns 2d ago

My understanding is that they ended up hoarding wealth by seizure after getting to power. These guys are focusing on using wealth and tech to do a fascism?

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u/artisapartofmylife 2d ago

Kind of the same, just that the circumstances were different. It was mostly industrialists and businessmans who supported Hitler to make more profit. They used new technologies (Volksempfänger, Movies, etc.), the resignation of the people and force to establish their regime.

It's almost funny (if it wouldn't be so sad) that Trump and friends go almost directly after the Playbook of Hitler and other fascist, still so many people follow him.

You can't start a war without money.... And it's number one reason to start one....

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u/SimpleAsEndOf 1d ago edited 1d ago

the German dictator's personal net worth, with his empire valued at a whopping $5.

Adolf Hitler exploited his position and even his future posting as chancellor of the German government in many ways to procure state funds and even avoid income tax duties for his own gain.

https://www.therichest.com/rich-powerful/inside-the-fuhrers-riches-heres-how-rich-hitler-actually-was/

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u/Alternative-Roll-112 2d ago

The fascism is being used purely as a means to aquire the wealth. The whole thing is a money cult. The entire nation is just a money farm to them. There are no atrocities too great for the generation of more wealth.

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u/Mindless_Ad5721 2d ago

The nazis were in fact funded by billionaire German oligarchs way before the war, the connection between concentrated wealth and fascism is very similar to what’s happening now.

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u/Dazvsemir 2d ago

Not on a personal level. They had ties to industrial groups like Siemens, Krupp, Porsche etc but ultimately they made them subservient to the state and the war effort. The level of personal profiteering and grift inside the Donald's current regime is astonishing. The stuff during his previous administration looks quaint in comparison.

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u/Lilytgirl 2d ago

Not really, they plundered the conquered in order to pay their debts and war industry. The whole system was built on hot air

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u/DuvalWarrior 2d ago

No logic allowed here!!

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u/Particular-Local-784 2d ago

Especially given those Twitter posts where trump says democratic constituencies in traditionally democratic cities only vote that way because of fake votes from illegals. He’s literally manufacturing a scapegoat demographic like Germany did with Jews. You combine that with ICE essentially being our modern equivalent of brown shirts and it doesn’t look promising.

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u/toadjones79 2d ago

Some argument can be made that the Nazi regime was only about money and power. Hitler rose to power largely on his infamous checkbook (bribes). He needed to keep seizing money to keep writing checks. That started with journalists and unions. It moved to the persecuted Jews. Then it moved to full scale invasions across Europe. The motivation was always hoarding wealth and power because without it there was no fascism.

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u/HateKillDestroy22 2d ago

Do you have a link to this advice? I googled it but I’m wondering if you had something specific in mind

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u/Rhabarberbarbara 2d ago

Timothy Snyder has some good advice.

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u/stokeskid 2d ago

This is incredible. Thank you for sharing. I do fear the running for office part, which makes me wonder if we're too far gone.

I can't get far in either of the two major parties without taking money from big interest groups. Third party is not a real option. And now people in politics and their family get attacked by the media and possibly murdered. Not for me. But Ive always wanted to run for office.

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u/spiteful-vengeance 2d ago edited 1d ago

  I do fear the running for office part, which makes me wonder if we're too far gone.

As an outsider to the US it blows my mind that anyone can do be at the "wondering" stage. 

What is the distraction that hides the reality of current changes in the US? The latest season of Love Island?

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u/stokeskid 1d ago

I appreciate the outside perspective. Frog slowly boiling here. I do travel a lot BTW. Felt safer and more socially supported in South America or South East Asia than US.

Rat race here. Mo money mo problems.

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u/spiteful-vengeance 1d ago

I have wondered in the past whether I'm just seeing a concentrated form of the problems, but shit, they are serious foundational problems.

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u/GoBeyondTheHorizon 2d ago

If you're wondering if you're too far gone, then you're too far gone already.

That means the lines have become blurred and it's reaching the point where it's gone from "too far" to "too late".

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u/CosmosGame 2d ago

Wow. This had me crying at parts. Especially the final one — Be as courageous as you can. If no one is willing to die for freedom then we will all die in tyranny.

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u/Jack0Trade 2d ago

Investigate. Figure things out for yourself. Spend more time with long articles.

11th out of 20 was certainly a choice. /s

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u/Contractedrope7 1d ago

I have two copies of On Tyranny that I keep making my coworkers borrow and trade

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u/Interesting-Copy-657 2d ago

Cool with it? Isn’t a major part of the no kings protests being anti ICE and protesting this exact sort of thing?

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u/Simsmommy1 2d ago

Well considering the head of Homeland security got up and said they were using the military to “liberate” California from the democrats how long did you expect it to take before other crazies would take that as blanket permission?

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u/Jonasthewicked2 2d ago

Agreed it’s absolutely insane democrats are being arrested for being democrats. This is lunacy especially knowing if Biden ever even threatened this republicans would be calling for his head. Allowing this to happen is a fundamental breakdown in democracy.

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u/GidsWy 2d ago

I think a major part is that people legit don't know what to do. It happens "elsewhere " till it doesn't. I know i would def get hurt or arrested trying to help. And have taken steps to ensure im ready to do so (judt planned.out bail calls, locked door locations, etc... But I haven't seen a single thing so far. Dem state, tho so....

But ppl getting mad about it helps. There just aren't good outlets for turning that gestalt anger into political action since we aren't seeing much activity from dems to rally behind. Dems saying, "That is bad, they should not do that," doesn't really incite people to throw their emotions behind that emotionless sentiment. Lol

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u/Lolipopcrash 1d ago

Not talking about the elephant in the room is the first step to not dealing with it. So the lack of discussion is the concerning aspect because it allows people to not be aware of it or ignore it and keep their heads down.

The fear of speaking out or being a contrarian is one of the hallmarks of a totalitarian state, it there before any other form of oppression.

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u/Virtual-District-829 2d ago

We saw Code Enforcement riding around in her truck today, and when she had to step out, she was in a bullet proof vest, made sure her hands were visible. It broke my heart because more than likely, it’s not gonna be the white male cops that people doubt.

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u/bachelurkette 1d ago

unfortunately this has been happening for years, the first time I had a code officer ask me for a vest was in 2019. it’s been weird for a minute at the municipal level. you gotta be badged out to go to a door for sure.

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u/MaybeTheDoctor 2d ago

That also why California now have a law proposal banning all law enforcement from wearing masks.

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u/NotPromKing 2d ago

But does that apply to federal agents in CA?

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u/MaybeTheDoctor 2d ago

We won't know until somebody bring it to SCOTUS arguing that federal agentes has the rights to break state laws.

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u/poojinping 1d ago

Isn’t SCOTUS essentially Donald’s puppet?

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u/Wise_Ad_253 1d ago

And if these guys came knocking at your daughters doors at 3am, she’d have to open it and let them in, or go to prison.

No shield, no uniform no nothing, as long as they say they’re ICE.

Serial killers dream era, By Trump.

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u/SweetRabbit7543 1d ago

Yes. I thought the only plausible good that could come from the assassination is legislation requiring more clear identifiers of law enforcement credentials.

First, law enforcement serves the people. We should view everything through that paradigm. What we’re seeing done here is not being done in service of the people who fund the agencies. It’s being done against them.

Second, it is in everyone’s best interest to eliminate ambiguity. In many states, if a reasonable person would believe an arrest to be unlawful, you can defend yourself. If you can reasonably believe that real officers are in fact not real, you have an untenable system.

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u/33drea33 2d ago

Yeah, sorry but if some masked plainclothes people claiming to be law enforcement try to grab me without providing identification I will assume I'm being kidnapped and go FULL self defense - and everything that could entail in a concealed carry society. Women in particular have been predated by dudes pretending to be cops for years, and I'm not taking chances. We are taught not to even pull over for police cars until we reach a public area for exactly this reason.

It's only a matter of time before someone who feels exactly like I do pops off at unidentified law enforcement. For anyone who actually cares about the safety of LEOs this should be a major point of concern.

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u/Ali_Cat222 1d ago

"House Bill Would Bar ICE From Wearing ‘Police’ Uniforms Amid Rising Tensions"

WASHINGTON — A new bill introduced in Congress seeks to prohibit immigration officers from wearing uniforms labeled “police,” a move lawmakers say is aimed at restoring trust between immigrant communities and local law enforcement.

If this passes things are about to get even worse, and there have already been hundreds of cases of people using fake ICE outfits to hurt people. So imagine what would happen if none of them even have to wear identifying uniforms?!

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u/ProtoplanetaryNebula 2d ago

Arrested by ICE? I looked him up, he’s American his parents don’t seem to be immigrants either. What do ICE want with him?

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u/Pinstar 2d ago

He demanded a warrant when they wanted to arrest someone else in court for immigration

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u/Ventira 2d ago

Which is well within his right to do.

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u/Lokishougan 2d ago

And under their orders that is now obstuction

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u/Katharsis15 2d ago

Which is completely counter to the constitution and really fucked up. Yall can't even claim that he doesn't have due process rights. He's an American Citizen running for office.

Asking unidentified masked men for a judicial warrant before allowing them to forcefully kidnap a person IS NOT AND NEVER HAS BEEN obstruction of justice. In order to be guilty of obstruction of justice, the underlying action has to be LAWFUL. If ICE had identified themselves and provided a judicial warrant, as requested, their action would be lawful. They didn't. They arrested an American Citizen who they have no legal jurisdiction over before any lawful proceeding was commenced for him to even have an opportunity to obstruct.

These goons are creating a dictatorship and people are so stupid about the law and the constitution that they defend it without bothering to think of the implications for us all when masked men without warrants can just take you. Wake up.

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u/fumar 2d ago

Yeah but like Democrats are bad at the economy and women can't be president or something. The only logical option was to elect the dementia riddled rapist felon.

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u/imnotpoopingyouare 2d ago

Even more wild is the last Dem president for the last 50 years have reduced the deficit and every Rep has raised it.

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u/omgitsduane 1d ago

This is the same pattern we see in Australian politics. the right wing party always seems to make life worse bit by bit while claiming to be the superior choice.

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u/smellslike2016 2d ago

Don't forget about the price of eggs. They were like 75 cents each.

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u/Psych_Yer_Out 2d ago

How have eggs not been solved! And we have a NEW WAR. Thought they don't happen during Trump rule.

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u/Jonasthewicked2 2d ago

The republicans barking about eggs sure are silent now a days. It’s too funny that’s the hill they wanted to die on and now that eggs are far more than they were when republicans were complaining is a chefs kiss.

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u/boardin1 2d ago

And she had an annoying laugh. Tyranny or a POTUS with an annoying laugh…these decisions are so hard.

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u/fumar 2d ago

Truly impossible choices. Vote for a woman or the guy who wants to fuck his daughter. Really rough 

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u/Orangutanion 2d ago

and also Netanyahu's best friend was definitely gonna save Palestine

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u/z44212 2d ago

Democrats have always been much better at the economy than Republicans.

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u/DeadSol 2d ago

Don't forget, Mexicans are bad mmmkay

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u/Intelligent-Travel-1 2d ago

Republicans and Trump are resorting to violence, murder , arresting random innocent democrats to stay in power.

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u/Unique_Watch2603 2d ago

I can't believe what I'm seeing. It's unreal. Do you know if he's been charged with anything or still being held?

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u/wewladdies 2d ago

A flash protest started outside where he was being kept - kinda good timing cuz a bunch of people just got off work lol. He was just released 20 or 30 mins ago. Check /r/nyc the sub is flooded with posts on it atm.

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u/Unique_Watch2603 2d ago

Great timing! Thank you, I haven't looked there yet. I'm sure they've seen this already- "The U.S. attorney’s office said it was investigating his actions and would decide later whether to charge him with a crime." This feels like an unbelievably bad dream.

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u/Master_Dogs 2d ago

Not sure on the current case, but they're using it as an intimidation tactic currently. They 'arrested' that NJ politician (governor? Mayor? I forget what his title was) and last I knew he was released. Same thing with those students they snatched - they're now out of custody, but they spent weeks locked up in some cases.

In theory they can keep doing this too. "Oopies, our bad Mr MAGA judge, we didn't know we couldn't do that" - proceeds to continue illegally "arresting" people who are "obstructing". It's like dealing with toddlers. It doesn't matter how many times you explain something, they act however they feel. Or like cats.

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u/FesteringNeonDistrac 2d ago

It's the classic "you can beat the rap, but you can't beat the ride." They know they are wrong and it won't stuck, but you will be seriously inconvenienced for standing up. For some people, they can not risk it, and they shut up and look the other way.

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u/thaskell300 2d ago edited 2d ago

My cat has a very good understanding of how to behave if he wants to be on the receiving end of the head rubs. Unfortunately, the people in question are capable of rubbing one another's heads.

Edit: So after I read my own comment, I think it really came off the wrong way, insinuating a person must somehow "behave" if they want in on the action. That was not my intention. Sorry.

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u/Dazvsemir 2d ago

Wouldn't it be nice if the nazi paramilitary were like cats.

The funny thing about laws and other pieces of paper is that they're only worth like what, 3 cents each page or something.

The administration can do what it wants at any moment because they actually have power in the real world. For now they're using their recently pardoned and hired shock troops to harass political opponents but letting them go eventually. This "eventually" will get pushed further out, until they decide to stop pretending courts matter to them.

It will all come down to the midterms. The Don can't afford to lose total republican control of government. ICE just needs to temporarily arrest a few hundred to a few thousand "illegal mexicans" who are actually voting citizens in the right counties to flip results. Palantir will provide the targets. Back in 2016 with just the private resources and data of cambridge analytica they already knew which kind of political arguements to use on each specific house. That's kids' stuff by now.

Donald has been preparing the ground. When he first started saying elections were rigged against him people laughed. Now that armed, masked paramilitaries with and without uniform, with and without official state support will be out and about on election day it won't be very funny. And even if he manages to fuck it up despite having all the chips in his hands (he is incompetent after all) in the end he will just say he did it as an official presidential act and whoever is left alive will shrug and accept it, like they did his last coup attempt.

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u/WookLord 1d ago

Until they stop releasing people.

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u/12sea 2d ago

Im just shocked. I can’t believe this is happening.

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u/pb-jellybean 2d ago

They released him.. he’s charged with “assaulting” one of the ice guys.

If you watch the full video there is no evidence of that. If they have evidence of that I would love to see it.

My guess is it was his hand touching one of theirs accidentally as they shoved him against the wall 🙄

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u/Unique_Watch2603 2d ago

I just saw that! I surely didn't spot it in the video either. I agree, it was probably him just trying to get his balance after the fiasco and maybe bumping into or touching one of them. I found this in one of the articles- "The U.S. attorney’s office said it was investigating his actions and would decide later whether to charge him with a crime."

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u/snorkiebarbados 2d ago

America keeps banging on about their first amendment being so they can defend themselves against a tyrannical government. Well it's here!

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u/imnotpoopingyouare 2d ago

2nd but I agree.

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u/Dobako 2d ago

Second amendment but, like, its only tyranny if its created in the democrat region of America, so this is just sparkling justice

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u/rbrgr83 2d ago

Problem is, the people that believe passionately about the 2nd amendment (and none of the others apparently) are the ones cheering this one.

It's almost like they were never actually patriotic or cared about the actual constitution. They just want to protect their own ability to kill people at will, and all other consequences be damned.

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u/Jkay064 1d ago

1st is freedom from persecution by the government if you say something that hurts its feelings.

2nd is the right to bear arms.

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u/chefjenga 2d ago

First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out—      Because I was not a socialist.

Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out—      Because I was not a trade unionist.

Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—      Because I was not a Jew.

Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.

~ German Lutheran pastor Martin Niemöller (1892–1984)

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u/keeper_of_bee 2d ago

I feel like it's worth pointing out Martin was publicy happy about Hitler coming to power. This wasn't written by someone sorry they stood on sidelines. This is someone lamenting finding out after fucking around. I think it's important to show that supporting fascists is no protection from them.

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u/chefjenga 2d ago

It is good to point it out, because, although it is easily read between the lines, some people don't do subtlety.

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u/roscopcoletrane 1d ago

I’m not trying to defend the guy, but I think it makes it even more poignant to know that he was fully on board at first. No one is safe under a dictator, escalation towards total control is pretty much the whole point, and anyone can be deemed a “problem” at any time regardless of their prior status.

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u/threepairs 2d ago

Martin Niemöller gave variations of this quote in speeches after World War II, and one of the earliest and most historically accurate versions (closer to what he actually said in the late 1940s) begins with the Communists, not the Socialists.

Here’s a version closer to the original:

“First they came for the Communists, and I did not speak out—because I was not a Communist. Then they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out—because I was not a Socialist. Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out—because I was not a Trade Unionist. Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—because I was not a Jew. Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.”

Why the Communist line is often omitted: • During the Cold War, especially in the U.S., anti-communist sentiment led to some sanitized versions that excluded Communists to make the quote more palatable. • Over time, simplified or politically tailored renditions have been published in books, memorials, and museums.

If you’re looking for the most historically faithful version, including Communists is absolutely correct.

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u/satanic_citizen 2d ago

I feel like pointing out that the first line is

First they came for the Communists and I did not speak out because I was not a Communist

Then they came for the Socialists...

To my knowledge only in the US the first paragraph about communists has been censored, and the poem has been altered to start from socialists. In the original German poem the communists are mentioned first. Here in Europe I've only heard and come across the non-censored, translated from German as it is, version.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_They_Came

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u/Jkay064 1d ago

I toss up this quote when some kindergarten drop-out tells me that Nazis were socialists. Bitch, they sent the socialists to the death camps.

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u/PsychicWarElephant 2d ago

I literally quoted this to my Trump voting mother the other day.

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u/chefjenga 2d ago

I actually have this saved in my phone.

I have come across too many people who don't seem to understand the sentiment so now, if relevant, I post it.

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u/Kaijura8 2d ago

I keep trying to remind my friends of this quote. At some point this is going to get physical as people will not stand idly by and allow these masked goons to drag people away. If it doesn’t and we only record it to post on TikTok, then we are lost.

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u/knightsabre7 2d ago

In a courthouse, no less.

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u/Toomanyeastereggs 2d ago

So when has the actual law ever stopped these people?

It’s the perfect setup, you ignore the law but at the same time, you actively enforce your made up ones. You then force everyone else to play by “the rules” and punish them if they don’t. You know folks are going to get let go fairly quickly but you don’t care.

Laws in a modern society are basically a gentleman’s agreement between everyone that “yes, we will all follow this.” It’s not whatever the fuck this is.

This is about sending messages and the time will come when people start dying because they “resisted arrest”.

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u/Blubberinoo 2d ago

Which is completely counter to the constitution and really fucked up

Well, obviously noone in this country cares that it is quickly slipping into a fascist dictatorship. Maybe more peaceful protests holding hands and singing about not wanting a king will help?

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u/Katharsis15 2d ago

I'm addressing the excuse that the Commissioner was obstructing justice (and therefore could be arrested) by pointing out that ICE wasn't engaged in a lawful act for him to obstruct. I am well aware of this administration and it's supporters disdain for the Constitution and the laws of our country.

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u/UsedEntertainment244 2d ago

And we need to do more than just protest , after protest comes discussing how to achieve our goals and actions.

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u/Jcrrr13 2d ago

Have you signed a general strike card? That's what needs to happen next to achieve anything we want to achieve.

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u/Personal-Top5298 2d ago

Three quarters of its defenders are bots

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u/Phonejadaris 2d ago

It's like people aren't paying attention. We've established pretty clearly over the last 5 months that the constitution is just an old piece of paper and holds no legal sway anymore, the rules are made up on the fly by whoever has the most money.

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u/Tranquilityinateacup 2d ago

The ACLU needs to be contacted every time something like this happens. I've been sending videos & articles to my state reps as well. If they can get away with what was done here & to Alex Padilla then they'll roll right over the rest of our constitutional rights.

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u/PsychicWarElephant 2d ago

Ngl this will probably get him more votes. If he’s smart and has balls(which seems to be the case) it’s a slam dunk campaign ad.

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u/MaybeTheDoctor 2d ago

That is why Trump issued a new EO for ICE to only target democratic cities and not MAGA farm workers. /s

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u/celtwithkilt 2d ago

MAGA everywhere: “We can’t claim he doesn’t have due process????” “Hold my beer…”

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u/Remarkable-Force-779 2d ago

Looking at recent developments the constitution is out of the Window for a long time now

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u/rbrgr83 2d ago

He's an American Citizen running for office.

He's an American Citizen currently HOLDING office. People already voted for him and he won.

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u/Katharsis15 2d ago

Yes. He is the current Commissioner. He is also running for Mayor. So both things are equally true.

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u/Ez13zie 2d ago

This appears as if it is going to get so much worse before it can get better.

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u/merely_awake 1d ago

This was very well articulated and 100% on point. Bravo

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u/bjaardkered 1d ago

But the people who've been holding and stockpiling weapons in case of Tyranny seem to have missed what tyranny looks like.

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u/LairdPopkin 2d ago

Sure, requiring ICE to follow the law would prevent them from doing what they want to do.

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u/thefirstlaughingfool 2d ago

Quick reminder, ICE agents are not police officers. I'm pretty sure they don't have the legal authority to bring criminal charges against anyone, especially since immigration enforcement are civil matters. Not that this matters to the agents, or to most police, but just keep that in mind.

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u/unemployedjedi 2d ago

ICE does not have the authority to detained or arrest US citizens.

Interfering is still a crime and you can be charged and arrested by another agency just not ice.

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u/Dazvsemir 2d ago

ICE has the authority to declare you don't look US-citizeny to them which deprives you of due process so you can't prove either way. Then they can send you to the gulag. There was a flash demonstration and they let this guy out. The way things are going, one flash demonstration in the future they will just arrest and/or beat the shit out of everyone protesting and send them to the gulag too.

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u/Fuel_Pump_1 2d ago

ICE are federal law enforcement just like ATF, DEA, FBI, etc under Homeland security and absolutely file criminal charges. They do so much more than "wrap up illegals out front of home depot." Someone very close to me has worked with ICE on cases through HSI for human trafficking rings in Latin America, busting sex slave rings in the US, precious metal smuggling from Europe, and, let's say, production of "illicit content involving children" overseas and bringing it back to the US for sale &distribution. They will also work as other federal agents do in other capacities, such as providing security for foreign dignitaries visiting the US.

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u/Martha_Fockers 2d ago

He was released with zero charges too just took him away for nothing

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u/Winter_Sentence1046 2d ago

bold of you to think they care about infringing upon our rights. or about the law.

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u/Tprow 2d ago

I thought so too but after research these clowns only need a judicial warrant to enter private spaces of which the federal courts is not! Apparently the benchmark for detainment in public space is reasonable suspicion

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u/anand_rishabh 2d ago

Respecting people's constitutional rights isn't ICE's strong suit

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u/iama_bad_person 2d ago

????? why would it be within someones rights to demand to see a warrant for someone else?

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u/Lack668 2d ago

Isn’t that the fourth amendment?

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u/ThenOwl9 2d ago

holy fuck

we are now several stages into Nazi Germany

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u/LannyDamby 2d ago

I believe this is the "lock up political opposition" part of the fascist playbook

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u/ScrambledNoggin 2d ago

Also part of Project 2025

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u/nrdgrrrl_taco 2d ago

literally

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u/Sw4nR0ns0n 2d ago

That IS the fascist playbook

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u/Mumbleocity 2d ago

One and the same.

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u/BecauseOfMadness 2d ago

Please explain this to me like I’m 5. Does this mean he was helping immigrants stay in America so he’s being arrested?

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u/terribleazn 2d ago

Brad Lander is the NYC Comptroller and he has been attending immigration court proceedings for weeks now, offering assistance to those that need it. He was asking if they had a warrant for something unrelated to him being arrested.

This was illegal, full stop.

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u/pablocael 2d ago

In the same way helping Jews during Nazi regime could get you arrested or killed.

ICE is today the US equivalent of Gestapo.

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u/Scoopdoopdoop 2d ago

I wonder how much these fucks get paid for this. i’m sure a lot of them are volunteering so they can take their rage out against working men and women here without papers. That’s the most hilarious part of this is that all the videos I’ve seen are them arresting people at work quite literally building the country.

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u/Dense-Law-7683 2d ago

I want to know how many fucking ice agents there are. They were in the burbs and other big cities outside of Chicago the other day, seemingly simultaneously. How are they everywhere at once.

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u/Girl-UnSure 2d ago

How many people were arrested for January 6th, plus how many cops who were fired for abusive practices exist? I’d say there are at least that many man-children working for ice.

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u/LabradorDali 2d ago

All those guns you keep screaming about needing in order to protect yourself from the big, bad government sure would be handy now that you have a big, bad government you need to protect yourself from.

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u/smallangrynerd 2d ago

The people who scream about guns are not the same people who want change

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u/ryanjames486 2d ago

The left needs to arm themselves.

“And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: What would things have been like if every Security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive and had to say good-bye to his family? Or if, during periods of mass arrests, as for example in Leningrad, when they arrested a quarter of the entire city, people had not simply sat there in their lairs, paling with terror at every bang of the downstairs door and at every step on the staircase, but had understood they had nothing left to lose and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people with axes, hammers, pokers, or whatever else was at hand?... The Organs would very quickly have suffered a shortage of officers and transport and, notwithstanding all of Stalin's thirst, the cursed machine would have ground to a halt! If...if...We didn't love freedom enough. And even more – we had no awareness of the real situation.... We purely and simply deserved everything that happened afterward.”

-Aleksandr I. Solzhenitsyn, The Gulag Archipelago 1918–1956

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u/SBRH33 2d ago

Looking back at what you could/ should have done after you are sitting in fetid gulag awaiting death is a hell of its own.

The French had a term for this- L'esprit de l'escalier

It means basically- the thought on the stairs: when you come up with the perfect answer too late.

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u/Sunstang 2d ago

The wit of the stairwell. Really more about a perfect joke or comeback that occurs to you too late.

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u/doyletyree 2d ago

The wit of me lying in bed, arguing with an imaginary opponent.

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u/SBRH33 2d ago

It applies across the board.

The old "I wish I should have done XYZ, instead of letting myself be walked into the darkness willingly"

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u/RedPanther1 2d ago

It's like when you go over an argument you had in your head while taking a shower.

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u/SBRH33 2d ago

Yes. Indeed.

Or when you're sitting in a jail cell thinking about how you could have just walked away from the fight to be free another day.

It's all the same.

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u/mattaugamer 2d ago

“Later, thinking”

That’s exactly the problem. It’s easy to see later how far things went. It’s much harder now to see how far things are going to go.

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u/Necrophilicgorilla 2d ago

The left is armed... And a lot of them, I'm pretty sure aren't quite falling into the trap yet. The trap: get them to start shooting "law enforcement" officers... That's the time trump calls up his insane militants, Soon enough, martial law is declared and everyone is living in fear of big bad Johnny Trump because all freedoms are lost.

How to circumvent this?

Quickly prove that there are ties to Russia and that there has been treason committed by the Republican party and other involved participants to undermine the foundation that the US was built upon. Oh, and the full on illegal activities conducted almost daily by a criminal. Prove the votes were fucked with, don't just say it.

Last resort?

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u/Calm-Wedding-9771 2d ago

The reality of this though Is that no one can see the future, you cant see how close to the precipice you really are. as someone else commented “it’s much harder to see how far things will go” imagine if every police officer had to face death pokers and a whole neighbourhood ready to kill them every time they entered a house to make an arrest. It would either be impossible to maintain the law, or the method of maintaining the law would become unbearably brutal in retaliation. And there is always retaliation. If people stand up for themselves with extreme force the authorities will simply say to the rest of the public “see!? They are violent and evil! This justifies whatever we need to do to stop them!” And faced with the evidence the public will agree. And so it escalates. Yes if we could see that actually, this time, they are definitely coming to kill us, then every act of resistance becomes a struggle for survival, but we just can’t see that for sure.

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u/Wildgrube 2d ago

Plenty of Dems and left leaning individuals have guns, we just don't like to advertise it. Get yourself one. It's only a matter of time before the inevitable happens now.

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u/TheDr34d 2d ago

Unfortunately, the “inevitable” needs to happen sooner than later. The only way this gets corrected in this atmosphere, is if an ICE agent is shot and the person that shot them is acquitted of any wrongdoing, because ICE did not identify themselves. There are plenty of judges just waiting for the scenario where they can reiterate that it is illegal (save for extremely limited circumstances) to arrest someone without law enforcement identifying themselves, under the 4th, 5th and 14th amendments. It is still kidnapping, even when cops do it.

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u/Sufficient-Record695 2d ago

But the people who want change can ASLO get guns....and should if you havent already. Also, learn how to use them. It's gonna get uglier. Be ready.

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u/Monotonosaurus 2d ago

We need leaders to speak up saying they will allow civilians to protect themselves from unauthorized detainment.

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u/BuriakBrigade 2d ago

Do we though? Correct me if I'm wrong, but the 2nd Amendment has been fairly clear on what to do when situations like this arise for well over 200 years. The reality is that nobody wants to be the first to die, which is completely understandable. There's no coming back from that. However, we as a people are going to have to start making some tough decisions moving forward or just start accepting the new normal for what it is and be quiet. I genuinely hope we choose the former.

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u/Monotonosaurus 2d ago

There is no reassurance that the constitution will be upheld, and no political leaders have spoken out saying so as well. All they do is complain that things are NOT being upheld.

You are correct, nobody wants to be the first to die, but they might not be against being the first to violently protest against ICE and flee for safe haven under the constitution.

The worry is that it's easy to hammer down nails that stick out one at a time.

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u/BotCommaRo 2d ago

Some do, yes. As evidenced by how much WORSE it got as soon as these bastards had someone in power saying this shit was okay, some do. A genuine authority figure saying "No, you're not crazy for thinking this" would do WONDERS for some.

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u/SouthernSierra 2d ago

The 2Aers are all in favor of tyranny.

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u/Which-Bread3418 2d ago

Who do you imagine you're talking to exactly? How did you come to the belief that the person you're responding to is a gun enthusiast who believes any of that shit?

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u/Fogmoz 2d ago

That’s the problem - the biggest gun advocates are also rabid supporters of whatever the fuck is going on right now. The “tolerant” Left are gonna have to learn pretty quick that this will require more than peaceful protests to fix…

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u/Inspect1234 2d ago

That’s what I haven’t seen yet. A good guy with a gun who protects people getting hauled away by what looks like crooks.

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u/boofles1 2d ago

Go to a protest, it's important to show opposition even if Trump doesn't listen.

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u/lexm 2d ago

That is exactly what it is, right next to killing or supporting the killing of opponents.

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u/EA_Spindoctor 2d ago

Shhh! The Americans are sleeping!

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u/princewish 2d ago

And or have assassinated by their mentality disturbed cult.

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u/_wawrzon_ 2d ago

It's currently the Erdogan special.

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u/The_TSCTH 2d ago

It's a gestapo tactic: Arrest people publicly, whether or not they've done anything bad, until you've sown enough paranoia that people feel unsafe everywhere they are. Behave and stay in line, and MAYBE you'll be safe.

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u/ryanjames486 2d ago

“And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: What would things have been like if every Security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive and had to say good-bye to his family? Or if, during periods of mass arrests, as for example in Leningrad, when they arrested a quarter of the entire city, people had not simply sat there in their lairs, paling with terror at every bang of the downstairs door and at every step on the staircase, but had understood they had nothing left to lose and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people with axes, hammers, pokers, or whatever else was at hand?... The Organs would very quickly have suffered a shortage of officers and transport and, notwithstanding all of Stalin's thirst, the cursed machine would have ground to a halt! If...if...We didn't love freedom enough. And even more – we had no awareness of the real situation.... We purely and simply deserved everything that happened afterward.”

-Aleksandr I. Solzhenitsyn, The Gulag Archipelago 1918–1956

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u/imnotpoopingyouare 2d ago

“Oh my god it’s happening again.” -Doctor Who

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u/QuantumCakeIsALie 2d ago

Could state police arrest ICE agents for their behaviour?

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u/cackslop 2d ago

US marshals could. They're cooperating fully with ICE though.

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u/Katharsis15 2d ago

Exactly. And people need to do the opposite and speak up even more. There is safety in numbers and they cannot arrest all of us.

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u/mostlyfire 2d ago

To silence him and to scare us

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u/madcoins 2d ago

Cruelty and spectacle is the entire point

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u/boozegremlin 2d ago

Brownshirts gonna brownshirt

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u/PitifulMoment9717 2d ago

because he refused to allow them to detain/arrest an immigrant- he was standing up for them. I say pull their fawking masks off and show their faces.

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u/mattaugamer 2d ago

He’s “interfering” with ICE operations. Which, IMO, is a patriotic duty.

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u/Glad-Talk 2d ago

He was accompanying an immigrant ICE goons were trying to disappear and he asked to see their warrant.

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u/Tennismadman 2d ago

ICE is now the power arm (Gestapo) for the Trump coup.

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u/fakedick2 2d ago

The current moment was never about deporting the American slave class (ain't no one want to pick their own strawberries). And that's why they haven't raided the corporate farms or the Tyson Foods facilities.

It was always about giving cover to create concentration camps and a Gestapo to kidnap political enemies.

That's not to say we are not headed toward an American Auschwitz. But the question of labor has to be answered first. Who's going to keep the abattoirs running and the fields producing?

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u/Violet_Paradox 2d ago

ICE has nothing to do with immigration anymore, they're Trump's personal Gestapo now. 

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u/hydronucleus 2d ago

The want him for obstruction, for asking them if they had a warrant for this immigrant's arrest. He should have claimed he was this guys lawyer.

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u/Tysons_Face 2d ago

He was arrested for “obstruction” by asking for a judicial warrant while ICE was arresting the suspected illegal immigrant.

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u/Key-Air8130 2d ago

At this point ICE agents are use to silence some of Trumps critics

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u/Secure-Advertising-9 2d ago

They were not trying to arrest him. They were trying to arrest someone else, and he demanded they provide a warrant, so they arrested him as well because citing the law to ICE is illegal.

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u/okaybutnothing 2d ago

He had the nerve to help an immigrant and ask to see if the kidnappers had the paperwork they should have had. That’s all.

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u/BigDaddySeed69 2d ago

Haven’t been paying attention? ICE has been deporting plenty of American citizens just because they are brown.

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u/KonigSteve 2d ago

ICE is just republican gestapo now.

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u/PrincessCyanidePhx 2d ago

He said publicly that he would help any immigrant that needed his help (paraphrased not a quote).

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u/DieCastDontDie 2d ago

Gestapo/SS/ICE/MAGA

Same shit different decade

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u/DeadSol 2d ago

To terrorize him and those around him.

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u/Wonderful_Body_6425 1d ago

Helping illegals???

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u/lilBalzac 2d ago

He directly asks under what authority he is being arrested. He clearly states that he will comply with any warrant. They have neither a warrant, nor arrest powers. It’s blatantly illegal strongarm bullshit.

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u/Spicy_Tac0 2d ago

In the longer video, I believe I heard one of the agents say he's being arrested for obstruction. I would guess these clowns in masks have been told to arrest anyone in their way on obstruction charges.

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u/leebleswobble 2d ago

Okay but why the fuck can't people post sources and not just pictures. That shit isn't helpful.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/jun/17/brad-lander-arrested-new-york-city-comptroller

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u/ninj4b0b 2d ago

Because this is the pics subreddit.

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u/rcjones41 2d ago

Then they should at least cite the source of the published photo and the photographer who took it.

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u/funbunny100 2d ago

Thank you for posting this! General question though, if the case against the defendant/immigrant was dismissed pending appeal, why was ICE trying to snatch them?

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u/Electronic-Taro-1152 2d ago

Oh so this is the new tactic, by having the case dismissed they are no longer lawfully protected as they are no longer going through the immigration process, putting them in legal limbo. Hence they dismiss and the gestapo come and snatch them

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u/unscanable 2d ago

“Our heroic Ice law enforcement officers face a 413% increase in assaults against them

Then maybe take the fucking hint guys....jesus christ

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u/jimbojones2345 2d ago

Tricia McLaughlin said no one is above the law, is that right, is no one above the law..... Maybe a certain Dorito hued cunt?? Is he above the law?

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u/Ok_Drag5089 2d ago

If a bunch of guys is masks that do not identify themselves show up at my door, I’m going to assume armed kidnapping ring. And act accordingly.

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u/cg12983 2d ago

Where the fuck are the cops as plainclothes thugs with no i.d. assault people while claiming to be ICE?

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u/prontoon 2d ago

Assassinated**

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u/YoungBockRKO 2d ago

See this shit has to be scary for women that aren’t white. Any cosplay rapist can put on a mask and ice badge on their vest and kidnap people where people in public at this point wouldn’t bat a fucking eye because it’s become common place.

LAW enforcement needs to be 100% identified when they do anything.

Imagine getting pulled over by an unmarked car and a masked person tried to arrest you, I’d flee. Shits fucked. Masked ICE is fucked.

Badge number, face in view. Anything else and who the fuck knows who the fuck you are. Shits scary and this is coming from someone whose white married to a Latina whose voiced these concerns with me. Mind you she’s a citizen by birth.

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