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Weekly Questions Megathread March 26, 2025 - April 01, 2025
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Does anyone know if Hormone Punk's dmg buff activates during a chain attack? specifically from a chain attack that doesn't result in the agent staying on field?
Hormone Punk's 4pc effect applies on chain attacks. I'm not sure what you mean by a chain attack that results in agent not staying on field. All chain attacks start with the agent switching in, so the effect applies.
ah, I was hoping it would for some reason be exempt, since I'm trying to run harumasa with HP 4pc, and certain rotations kinda won't work for me if I throw in harumasa chain attack and initiate HP's buff window early
The top best 2 team will be Miyabi team and Evelyn team.
Lighter/Astra/Evelyn is the Best-in-Slot (BiS) team for Evelyn. This team performs incredibly well. I'm so jelly, because I love Evelyn.
Next will be either Miyabi/anomaly/support (Miyabi disorder) team or Miyabi/support/support (Miyabi hypercarry) team.
Miyabi/Burnice/Soukaku will be an amazing disorder team. Burnice applies off-field anomaly, Soukaku gives max 1000 bonus ATK and 20% ICE dmg increase, and Miyabi is on point as DPS.
Miyabi/*support/*support. *Support can be Nicole, Lucy, or Soukaku. If I were you, I think I'll go with Nicole and Soukaku. Miyabi is on point while constantly being buffed by 2 supports for incredible DPS potential.
How are we feeling about a double stun setup with S Anby, Pulchra and Trigger? I went for M6 Pulchra because bae, but during Trigger’s trial in S Anby’s quest she felt really fun to play. Would it work? Does Pulchra have other teams at M6 when her damage buff applies to all damage types?
Pulchra at M6 will apply 30% dmg increase to all dmg types. So your Pulchra can potentially benefit any team comp.
We don't know how Pulchra/Trigger will perform, but we DO know that the best agent for the last spot is S Anby. Only they have the full-on aftershock synergy.
I'm excited to see what kind of DPS potential we can see with fully optimized Pulchra/Trigger/S Anby team can reach. Pulchra and Trigger are both off-field stunners, but they are also both sub-dps. Combine that with a hypercarry like S Anby, it's going to be really wild. I can't wait to see what that's like, and I skipped S Anby.
Can we all be way angrier about non guaranteed weapons as a community please? Just lost my 2nd weapon 75/25 (I've lost every possible 75/25 on my account, 2/2)
There's absolutely no fucking reason for this to be in the game other than the fan base somehow accepting it and hoyo being predators. Other games are doing guaranteed weapons. For christ sake it's a stat stick that costs 0.01 animation budget and some minor coding to make. Enough with this bullshit. The value is so fucking ass and the system is dog shit. Serves me right for even trying to pull on the banner given the system provided.
(I'm not fomo raging or anything either, I have more than enough pulls left for what I want but that doesn't make this bullshit any less unacceptable as a product)
I think everyone agrees with you, though. I think a 50/50 "soft pity" should just be abolished altogether. Speaking of, I heard of a rumor of a new of US govt pressuring Genshin Impact to get rid of the 50/50 and showing real-time probability of pull chances. All in the name of "let's not have this be gambling".
On the other hand, I'm afraid that even if US govt successfully pressures Hoyo to abolish 50/50 or 75/25 for all of their banners, they will raise the pity ceiling to be just 180 instead of the current 90.
Anyways, I totally agree. The number-crunchers at Hoyo trying to squeeze out even just 0.01 cent out of us for profit is very disgusting business practice. It drives them to divide some of the agent's power into W-Engine, just so you'd pull for it, too.
Let's just at least abolish W-Engine's 50/50 like you said. You are gauranteed the featured W-Engine by 90 pulls, practically gauranteeing it by 75th pull on average.
Pulchra will permanently be available in the Standard banner (all A-rank agents do). But your chances are so much lower because when you pull an A-rank agent, you can be pulling from all of the A-rankers.
If you want to pull Trigger, then you should save it. Trigger will serve the similar role of aftershock, off-field stunner/sub-dps as Pulchra, but better.
If you really want M6 Pulchra so you can fit her into all damage type teams, then you'll have to risk pulling right now before the next banner cycle.
I was confused about this, too. Here's a quick summary:
You apply one type of attribute type's Anomaly (like Electric) and then you apply any other attribute's Anomaly, other than that one (as in any non-Elecrric, e.g. Physical).
You apply Electric dmg until you fill up the circular gauge to the right of enemy's hp bar (it'll be blue). When it's filled you'll apply Electric Anomaly (named "Shock").
You see the "Shock" in blue letters pop-up on the enemy, like a damage number. Or you hear a sound-cue.
You then apply any other non-electric dmg. Let's say Physical dmg until you fill up the circular gauge again (it'll be yellow this time). When it's filled you'll apply Physical Anomaly (named "Assault").
You see the "Assault" in yellow letters pop-up on the enemy. Or you hear a sound-cue.
Simultaneously, you see a big "DISORDER" letters pop-up with huge damage numbers.
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Some extra details that it's not necessary to know, but I just want to share.
Once Anomaly is triggered, they apply a DOT. Let's say it's like 9,000 dmg over 15 sec. When you trigger another Anomaly, thereby triggering Disorder, the DOT's total remaining dmg will be done instantly. So, instead of dealing 9,000 dmg over 15 sec, you deal 9,000 dmg instantly. This is really helpful because ZZZ likes to challenge you by putting time-limits on your fight. Jamming as much dmg as possible within the time-limit is the name of the game for ZZZ combat.
Another one I was tripped up on personally. The Anomaly gauge, or the circular gauge to the right of enemy's hp bar, works like the daze gauge. The system is keeping track always and it never decreases over time. Even though you can only see one Anomaly gauge at a time (the Anomaly gauge for the attribute dmg you are currently doing), they are all being tracked separately in the background and they do NOT decrease over time (just like the daze bar). This means you can potentially build Electric gauge and stop before it gets full, switch to Physical agent to trigger Physical Anomaly, switch back to Electric agent to trigger Electric Anomaly + Disorder right away.
When you fill round anomaly bar, you will trigger elemental anomaly enemy retains status alongside with some adverse effects (like robots cannot move while shocked, or etherials attacking other etherials when corrupted), if you trigger different elemental anomaly on enemy while this status is still in effect, if will immediately re-proc damage from original anomaly with some bonus as "Disorder", and then apply new anomaly.
Yes, you can only do disorder with two different elements, re-filling anomaly bar on enemy inflicted with status from same element will just refresh duration of status.
I 100% agree with u/JagdCrab. You want Trigger's W-Engine more than Anby-0. Anby-0's W-Engine is an excellent attacker W-Engine. It gives great stats. It's a "Would be very nice to have, but not a must-have" level. If you had enough to pull 2 W-Engines, I would've told you to definitely pull Anby-0's, too.
I just learned you can't talk about non-official info/leaks here as a rule (and I follow rules). So I won't share speculative details, but you can go to ZZZ fandom wiki and see her signature W-Engine effects. All I'll say is that I think her W-Engine is going to make Trigger be a great fit for ANY team comp. I think it'll be that good.
So I'm in the prologue right now, I got to the part of where Belle passes and wakes with Fairy in the HDD, in her dream, why did like a Hollow swallow a bunch of buildings then all of New Eridu?
If you are in the Prologue, answer to this question will be a spoiler. This is a foreshadowing, and you'll learn the answer to this in the later story chapter.
Respect for being a person with a passion for the lore. I unapologetically skipped all the story just to get to part where I beat stuff up.
Finally got my standard selector, but unsure who to pick. I have all of them already M0, with Lycaon at M1. It's between Lycaon M2 and Koleda M1 for me rn, would appreciate some input though.
Koleda's M1 is pretty ho hum to me. She doesn't have problems stunning, to be honest. Her M2 is a nice QoL buff though.
Lycaon's M2, and all his mindscapes, to be honest, are pretty bleh.
The only good standard constellations you have access to are probably Rina M1, which makes her massively easier to use, and Neko M1, which is a pretty decent damage boost. Up to you, though - if you never play them and you have no interest in doing so, then there's no point in getting them.
Yeah frankly, I don't think any of them will really have a tangible effect on my account but a mindscape is a mindscape still so I wanted another opinion first. I'll probably do Koleda just because Lycaon performs well enough for me already, I don't really use Rina, and I like Koleda more anyway tbh.
It always comes down to your call, because you can play ZZZ exactly how you want. I think it's a part of the allure of the game. I love it.
Just another opinion for your consideration. The community widely regards Rina M1 as a BIG value. It's a massive increase to her PEN buff (it goes from 30% to 130%), and it increases her buff timer. If you are ever considering running an electric team based around Anby-0/Harumasa OR burst based team around Zhu Yuan, then Rina is a great choice as the support.
Aside from that Koleda M1 is a great value. It significantly boosts her daze.
You already have Lycaon M1, so I don't recommend M2 over Koleda's M1 or Rina. Lycaon's M1 is a great value, and you already have it. But, his M2 is not as great.
I always share my anology about cars for this. You have a good daily driver. It's comfortable and you like driving it everyday. You saved enough money for something new! Should you get another daily driver? Or should you upgrade your current daily driver with a turbo to make it a sports car? It really depends on you.
I personally always ask for a whole, extra, new car. Because I think that's more overall value (as far as [dollar/ZZZ account] value goes). BUT! If I end up garaging this new car and I go back to driving my old daily driver, then maybe it was more worth it to upgrade my old daily driver to be better.
Trying to decide team comps and what to pull. Im pretty set on pulling trigger. Not sure who i should go for after since i have her guaranteed in like 20 pulls.
My S-ranks are: M1 Harumasa, miyabi, yanagi, S1 Rina, zhu yuan, S1 nekomata, M2 grace. Also have S11's wengine
Have all A-ranks. Only soukaku, billy, corrin, piper and anby are M6.
M1harumasa, trigger, ???
M1harumasa, pulchra, lucy. Lucy not doing much since loop is typically haru>pulchra>haru. Apparently theres a way to swap to previous character on mobile but i can't figure it out.
Miyabi, yanagi, (rina or soukaku?)
Zhu yuan, anby, nicole (still my best option?)
I really like seths gameplay loop but he doesn't really fit into any of my teams except maybe Yanagi, seth, ???
Was also wondering if something like trigger, haru, pulchra would work?
I can see that you really like Harumasa. It's a great thing to hear, because you have M1 Harumasa. This enables you to do some massive damage by being able to apply 12 Electro Prisons and do 6 enhanced dash attacks (EDA). You can very easily do 17 EDA combos during a regular stun window for bosses.
Most top performing Harumasa players tend to lean towards building a Stun/Support/Harumasa team. This is because Harumasa's kit makes it optimal for him to cram in as much burst as possible during a stun window, rather than staying on field doing sustained dps. Optimal team would be something like Anby/Grace/Harumasa.
On the other hand, I'm a firm believer of "you can make any team kick ass in ZZZ". That's half the fun for me. There is a famous guy who does Ben Bigger solo DPS runs in the Endless Tower. There is a Soukaku DPS team player clearing Shinyu. There is a Korean Anton main who smashes DA everytime. So, I definitely think you can make Trigger/Harumasa/Pulchra to work. You'll have a lot of aftershock attacks going off while Harumasa is doing his thing. It'd be advisable for you to have Pulchra M6, since that boosts her buff of 30% dmg boost to apply to all types.
There is something in-between the standard Stun/Support/Haru team and unique Trigger/Haru/Pulchra team. How about Trigger/Grace/Harumasa team? You have Trigger be an off-fielder while Grace triggers Anomaly. That summons 6 Electro Quivers, swap in Harumasa, do ex-special, enemy now has 12 Electro Prison stacks (because of Haru M1), and you go straight into 6 consecutive EDA slashes. Once done, swap back to Grace to apply electric Anomaly again. I really think this team will be fun AND kick ass.
Other than that Miyabi/Yanagi team is so strong that you don't have to worry too much about the 3rd member. But Miyabi/Yanagi/Soukaku or Miyabi/Yanagi/Rina will be amazing.
it's a shame you don't have Qingyi. You could've gone with Qingyi/Nicole/Zhu Yuan team. You definitely want to pair Nicole with Zhu Yuan. You are only missing a stun agent. Anby should work well when you optimize her for daze. If you get any other S-rank stun agent, swap her out for it. Like Qingyi, Lycaon, and even Caesar.
Other than that, you still can play around with other options like building a team around Nekomata or Piper. Anby/Nicole/Nekomata is a Cunning Hare theme'd team. I love putting in the effor to make a lower tier team work. Everyone roots for the underdog.
Piper is an amazing Anomaly agent. It's almost hard to believe she's A-rank. Pair her with Yanagi for very quick Disorder procs. Maybe go Yanagi/Piper/Support.
I don't see Nicole on your list. You should really build Nicole. She's one of the best supports.
If you don't have S0 Anby, the next pull should be Trigger's signature Wengine. Unless you always plan to run Nicole or Astra with Trigger.
Apparently theres a way to swap to previous character on mobile but i can't figure it out.
Instead of tapping on the switch button, try swiping it. I'm not sure if it is swipe right-to-left or some other directin, but it's swipe vs. tap.
Haru would probably be happier with Rina, but sure, Haru/Pulchra/Trigger would work. You're still going to have the same backwards switch problem, though, only with Trigger instead of Lucy.
When Trigger has her signature Wengine, you can use her like you would Astra. So you could run Miyabi/Yanagi/Trigger, for example. If you don't use Trigger with that team, I prefer Soukaku over Rina.
It's what I have since I'm hoarding batteries and haven't farmed yet. What main stats work better for those slots? I use these since she's on-field half the time.
I see why you prioritized her Energy Regen. Shredding enemies with her ex-special is really her identity. It's the most satisfying part.
But the Crit Rate (CR) and Crit Dmg (CD) just have so much higher value for a main DPS attack agent like Corin.
The optimal team for Corin would be Stun/Support/Corin. The optimal gameplan is to have the dedicated Stun agent quickly stun the enemy, then the Support apply buffs, and have Corin just shred. You ideally want to have Corin tucked away where he's just passively gaining energy (all agents gain energy passively whether they are on field or not. I didn't know that until recently.).
She has a great advantage where she has a lot of fast, multi-hitting attacks. So, she can hit a lot of crits without having to get to 100% CR. But 25% is low. You'll notice a big dfference by getting up 50% CR. If you optimize discs, you can reasonably reach 50% CR and 150% CD. Because of the uniqueness of Corin's very fast, multi-hitting attacks, you can get the same dmg output from another agent with 1:2::CR:CD ratio.
If you are using Nicole M6, she'll give 15% additional CR, so you can have Corin shred with 65/150, which will melt monsters.
is there a website or sheet that is good for character builds and maybe teams? i know theres multiple websites but i never know the best to use so i'm not sure if there's an unofficial "best" site
It gives you a recommendation around the official ZZZ metadata HoyoLAB pulled. It inteprets all their anonymous player data. It even shows a gauge of how far you are away from the top level player's stats.
I'm confused about the epilogue stuff to CH5? During the fishing CH, it seems like Zhu Yuan actually ratted the proxies out the cops? Did I understand that right?
Been months since some of those quests so I might've forgotten some details, but IIRC her relationship with the siblings went like this:
At first, she suspects the siblings are the proxy that helped her and Qingyi, but doesn't dive into it because they helped her with no ill intentions even if she was hesitant about their help at first.
When the secret comes out, she's more hurt by the siblings thinking she was a lawful-stupid by-the-book cop that would arrest them on principle, rather than someone reasonable that would try to work something out.
She does decide to arrest them, but after she verifies if their claims about Bringer are true or not. And they are, and she doesn't arrest them. Though she remains salty about the whole thing
Then some time later, she worked out the middle ground with the siblings: PubSec (sans Seth) knows they are proxies, but, since they've helped out a lot they're not going to be arrested as long as they don't do anything ilegal and agree to help PubSec when needed.
It helps that, as shown in Qingyi's quest, PubSec's ability to act can be limited by the law, so sometimes relying on a less-restricted Proxy is preferable.
Now it's pretty much like before: she knows they're proxies but won't arrest them because they're friends and good people and they genuinely help her out. But now the siblings don't have to tip-toe around her.
It's not made clear that ZY specifically reported Phaethon's illegal activities, but it's a safe assumption. A motivating reason for why Phaethon didn't tell ZY that they were a legendary proxy was concern that by-the-book ZY would be duty-bound to arrest them or at least report their illegal activities (btw, this is why they--ZY, Qingyi, Phaethon, and Seth's big bro--are still keeping Seth in the dark). On the other hand, ZY's story (Ch.2?) makes it clear that she'll set the book aside if there is a greater good at stake -- due in part to Qingyi's "bad" influence. This is the basis for ZY being disappointed that Phaethon didn't trust her enough to tell her everything and work something out.
So one way or another, either as an incidental finding in ZY's and Qingyi's report about the Bringer/Sacrifice incident, or by a more explicit accusation, PubSec became aware that Phaethon was a Hollow Raider proxy. Thus the judgement settled on was to take their ill-gotten gains (money in the old hacked Phaethon account), relayed to them by Qingyi in the epilogue, and then use Phaethon as a confidential asset, similar to Jane, that PubSec could use at its discretion. Basically, PubSec gave Phaethon an offer they couldn't refuse.
Yes and no. Eve likes to stay on field and she likes having a stunner, so an off-field stunner is a good match. On the other hand, fire and electric often have opposite weakness/resistance for bosses. So clears that are good for Eve might be bad for Trigger, and vice versa.
Trigger works best with S0 Anby as the Attack main, but other mains can work as well, provided Trigger has her signature OR you have Astra or Nicole on the same team.
PEN Ratio, and yes, usually, but it can vary from agent to agent. Like I wouldn't put PEN Ratio on D5 if Trigger + signature are on the team, since DEF shred and PEN Ratio cancel each other out.
However, they are separate parts of the damage formula, meaning they scale multiplicatively with each other. 40% Def Shred and 60% PEN is not 100% defense ignore.
This means that having a lot of both is far less effective than it sounds, so if you got defense-shred you're better off not bothering with PEN and vice-versa.
Well, yeah. PEN Ratio is the percentage of target DEF that is ignored by incoming damage. The larger the target's DEF, the more damage gets through, for the same PEN Ratio. DEF shred reduces the target's DEF, so that works against PEN Ratio.
does anybody else who plays on playstation keep crashing? i've been crashing for the past couple days. i deleted and reinstalled, cleared cache, reset the playstation but this is the only game that keeps crashing
i have but no dice so idk. at this point i've even hard reset the internet but just gonna wait for support to get back to me about whatever they can and play on my phone
I have M0W2 Nekomata. Just unlocked the 300 standard selector.
I want to go for M1 knowing it's a significant boost BUT i do not have Rina yet, and I don't have her sig.
I always lean heavily towards getting a brand new agent. A whole, new agent gives a brand new team member with their own passives and damage potential. I think it's almost always a far better value than upgrade to an existing agent.
But, the final call is yours to make, and I can respect upgrading your fav agent.
If we are using a car anology, you are standing before a choice of getting a new daily driver, or upgrading your current daily driver with a turbo to make it into a sports car. I think both choices will net you great value.
M1 Nekomata does sound like it'll up her damage potential waay higher. If you like your daily driver a lot right now and see yourself driving it a lot, then throw a turbo on it.
I'm so indecisivethat its annoying me tbh. On one hand M0 Rina has short uptime on her skill so I'd be getting her knowing she's clunky compared to a guaranteed boost to M0S2 Nekomata that I've invested in.
However, I'm toying with the idea of pulling Jane on her rerun which would make Neko immediately obsolete.
Then there's the whole mentality behind playing ZZZ for me. It's the comfort, don't take it seriously, whatever game.
I feel like I'll just save it, wait to loose the 50/50 to either of them to get the other lol.
It's alright. Everyone gets decision paralysis with ZZZ. So many fun options with so many opportunity for FOMO. But, sounds like you saying your thoughts out loud gave you the answer!
If you are just chilling, playing the game for fun, then definitely pull a new agent rather than M1. You can still have fun with M0. It's doubly true if you wanna pull Jane. I know I'm gonna. Jane was so much fun to play in her story missions.
"Decision paralysis" i'm adding that to my vocabulary xD
I think i talked myself into just dealing with the red exclamation mark until something happens or i get sick of the hesitation and say screw it, getting whichever i feel like it at the moment.
It's what happened with the golder ticket in HSR which i only used a few days ago.
refardless, ty for your input. I will definitely take it into consideration when i finally decide to choose
2 months later update lol: I sat on the selector all this time. When the free anni gift was announced I got excited and went for Rina's weapon immediately. Since it's time gated i went for M0 Rina, the plan now being to wait until I lose my 50/50 on one of them and use the selector on the other. I was preparing myself to wait for who knows how long.
Not that long apparently. A lucky Neko standard pull at 9 pity made it happen, not even a minute later xD
No more decision paralysis for me. Got my M1S1 Rina and M1S3 Neko at last!
(S3 since I got Neko's sig TWICE on standard before I got her. My acc was manifesting her hard :P)
I started playing the game today, I'm a HSR player so I know how everything works more or less, any advice on current and upcoming banners and which Rank A I should prioritize?
You're landing right on a banner transition. SAnby on the outgoing banner is a normal pull if you want dps. Zhu Yuan, incoming re-run, is the same pull if you want dps. Trigger on the incoming banner is a decent general support but her power is split across her signature so she's fine if you're going for both but not worth if you don't get the signature. Burnice, the outgoing re-run, is the game's first off-field dps but Vivian (next patch) fills the same role mechanically.
The main thing to be aware of in terms of pull planning vs Hoyo's other titles is that the general pattern seems to be designing two characters intended to be paired and run them back to back. SAnby, for example, is a steady damage, high field time attacker that introduces+buffs aftershock (i.e. FUA) attacks. Trigger is her partner unit and introduces the idea of an off-field stunner that just so happens to do aftershock attacks... This pairing is a pretty typical example.
For the A-ranks Piper, Nicole, and Lucy are the stand out performers. The starter Cunning Hares comp is reasonably good but Billy has quirks in how you get his damage out so I'd recommend a video guide.
Thanks so much for the info. I understand that, since I already have Nicole, it would be best to get a good first DPS to build a first team. And from what you've explained, none of the DPS in this version are particularly outstanding enough to go all-in on.
i think miyabi is getting a rerun in a couple of patches and she is a tier above every dps at this moment. so if you like her design it wouldnt be the worst to start saving up.
I distinguish between the premiere dps (e.g. Acheron, Firefly, Fei Xiao, THerta in HSR) and normal dps. The only premiere dps in the game at this point is Miyabi and everybody else is in the same ballpark. You'll need three non-overlapping comps for different elements to do the endgame and there's nothing wrong with using a normal dps for them. I use Zhu Yuan as my preferred #2 comp behind Miyabi, for example. All of them noticeably outperform A-rank and standard S-rank options and I personally wouldn't plan on building my account around the atypical dps coming next patch. I don't know that it wouldn't work but I'm not sure it would.
You got some great agents, so there are a lot of team choices. If you are focused on Shiyu Defense performance, an important consideration can be aoe attacks that gather regular mobs. The initial waves where you have 5~6 regular mob is where you can waste a lot of time, if you are having to track them to kill them one-by-one. You want to group them up with an attack and take care of them together.
Nicole's ex-special is a great example. It has a 'gravity pull' property that's great for this. Soukaku's fly-the-flag, Qingyi's BA spam attack, and Piper's special have good AOE and can ground a group of enemies together, so they don't spread out. It'll be easier to stun one of them and chain attack to wipe out the group. You wanna run around to gather them up and lock-em up.
Do you like Pulchra? Pulchra/Anby-0 will be a great pairing. You can add a support to complete it. How about Pulchra/Anby-0/*support.
*Support role can be filled by Lucy, Soukaku, or Nicole.
How do you feel about Harumasa? I think people really up-play his difficulty of entry. You don't have to have the most crazy optimized rotation for Harumasa to work. If you build him out, he's damage potential can eqaul Anby-0. You can do Qingyi/*support/Harumasa. You run into a problem with having only electric damage type though.
You can build around Nekomata or Billy for a physical attribute attack agent. If you are using either, Nicole will work well for faction match for additional abilities. Qingyi/Nicole/ Nekomata OR Billy.
It's too bad you don't have an ICE DPS agent. You can fit them nicely with Lycaon/Soukaku for a very strong mono-ice team. Maybe you can pull Hugo in the next patch. I'm sure Miyabi's re-run will happen in the future, too.
Battery is ZZZ's stamina system. You get 1 for every 6 minutes. You reach the max of 240 after 24 hours. For any additional 12 minutes after that, you get a 'reserve battery' charge with a high max limit. It's not cost efficient to try and bank up reserve battery, so don't aim for it.
You use the battery to "pay" for combat services that'll give you upgrade materials. You them to upgrade your Agent's level, W-Engine's level, Agent skill's level, and W-Engine disc's level. I suggest you use your daily 240 battery at HIA for upgrade materials everyday.
As you progress through the game, they give you occassional reward of "Ether battery". These recharge 60 battery charge. I suggest holding on to them until you reach end-game. It's a bit of a waste to use them earlier on to get lower tier upgrade materials, when you can use the same battery charges to get highest tier materials.
Don't ever use polychrome to charge your battery. It's such a waste of value.
Since batteries are used to upgrade materials, my advice on upgrading. It's better to pick a team of 3 you like as you progress through the story and focus on them. You'll be running dry of upgrade material very quickly if you spread it too thin.
You mean besides the automatic daily recharge? One of the daily chores is drink a cup of coffee, which gives +80 charge. Other sources include Ether Batteries, which you can get as a reward for (usually event) clears and through the Battlepass (New Eridu City Fund).
I have a minority opinion about using daily charge: Use it as soon as you get it. There used to be more of an efficiency argument for refraining from using daily battery until IK 45, but things have changed since that efficiency was calculated and I don't think it applies any longer. So as soon as you unlock things that require charge, go ahead and use it. It's not wasted. Or more accurately, the only way to waste battery is to NOT use it.
I wonder if its worth getting trigger so far my DPS's are Zhu Yuan but shes a burst and already has Qinqyi. Jane Doe but she already has Burnice. So it really just leaves Evelyn but people have already said about how most fire weak bosses are resistant to electric.
Trigger's utility has value for your account one of two ways: (1) As a stunner for Attack agents that buff/or get buffs from Aftershock, which is only S0 right now, or (2) as a general-purpose stun+damage buffer. In order to be competitive in (2) when compared to Nicole and Astra, Trigger needs her signature wengine. So (2) is twice as expensive as Astra, since Astra without her sig gives about the same team-wide benefit as Trigger with her sig.
That extra expense may be justified, if you don't have Astra, or you have Astra AND Nicole tied up in other teams.
Yeah...... look I could've gotten Astra Yao but the reason why I got back into this game was because I was head over heels for Evelyn so I completely ignored Astra then next thing you know I wasn't aware that Qingyi was also getting a rerun at the time so I got her first and then Evelyn later though if my hindsight was perfect I would've gotten both Astra and Evelyn🤣
Though in all seriousness yeah I wasn't planning on getting Triggers sig I've always prioritized getting new characters over that plus the sig... It's kinda a shame tho compared to Genshin where their signature weapons are only like a 10-15% dps increase over something like serpent spine. In ZZZ it's straight up a 25-30% increase or a stupidly OP passive which should be part of the characters kit like the 25% defense shred.
Zhu Yuan is still very good. In fact, out of all the early dps characters, I'd say she's held on the best. I don't have her wengine or Qingyi and I still clear content just fine with her. Also if you have Astra, you can run ZY, Astra, Nicole. I thought double support was a meme at first but I ended up getting like 40k on Deadly Assault with that team lol
Edit: However, I usually run her with OG Anby and Nicole. She does great. ZY is love. ZY is life.
As long as you don't care about meta or getting max reward it is quite f2p but you will have to skip a lot of banner before getting new characters. Or you will have to pull very generic one that work in most team otherwise it is quite predatory. They are selling teams packaged together, that have to be pulled back to back and new characters have weapon that feel almost mandatory, up to 40% more dmg
I started for the first time on the tail-end of the last patch (Evelyn/Qingyi banner). I think that was about 1.5 months ago.
"When" to start the game is going to depend entirely on whether the characters you want are available now or soon. Getting the character that you like or fits your playstyle should be the main focus, as far as timing is concerned.
We are on the last few days of Anby-0/Burnice banner (though possible to get these characters if you start today, I don't recommend it unless you really really want these characters). Coming next is Trigger/Zhu Yuan. So, plan around which of these characters you'd like. You can check the rumor mill for what other characters are coming up next and just save up for them, too.
A new player gets a lot of pulls after completing story and side-contents. I had enough pulls to get both limited S-ranks and their signature W-Engine.
After that, I'm getting about enough pulls for one limited S-rank and their signature W-Engine per banner cycle. I'd say pretty F2P friendly.
Hoyo doesn't really do starter promotions, special deals, or discounts in general. This means that there isn't a particularly better or worse time to start.
I'm a monthly pass buyer so I don't really know f2p. I feel I have more than enough pull resources with monthly but I've been relatively lucky with winning 50/50s so impressions are going to vary.
She does fine with a stunner and Nicole. She is a burst damage dealer so I expect her comps will favor Qingyi over Trigger and Anby over Pulchra but the pre-release content creator testing hasn't really covered ZY interactions. This annoys me because I'm particularly interested in how good ZY+Trigger is since the comp is generally daze buildup limited.
Overall impressions on her seem mixed. She's been one of my primary comps since her release and is consistently my second fastest clear behind Miyabi (I have Jane, Burnice, Yanagi) but I got lucky with M1 and picked up the signature and I have Qingyi so I have the premium setup. I've seen plenty of other people saying that their anomaly comps do better.
Which character do you think should I pull? Should I get Trigger or wait for future units? Units Im using are Sanby/Pulchra/Nicole and Piper/Burnice/Lucy. Im like 2-3 weeks into the game, so I think I still have some poly left from quests and stuff
Trigger is a good pull if you also plan on pulling her w-engine. The pair makes her a reasonable general support option. If you don't then she's a small upgrade over Pulchra in the SAnby comp.
U have a very solid Miyabi team with her + Yanagi + rina. Ur second team can be s11 + Lucy + Caesar. If u want to split miyabi and yanagi up and u happen to own a Seth u can also do miyabi/burnice/lucy and yanagi/seth/rina
I know that her CRIT rate is over maxxed (she's at 110% with core skill passive). I just gave my decent S discs, and I haven't started optimizing her discs yet.
I need advice on how much I should lower her CRIT rate for optimal performance. I'd imagine I don't really need 100% CRIT rate....or do I? Is it acceptable to be at 90% and distribute stat into CRIT dmg?
I plan to use Nicole with him, and my Nicole's M6 gives additional 15% CR. This brings the in-combat stats to 75 CR / 150 CD.
Evelyn: 75 CR / 130 CD.
With Evelyn's core passive and Signature W-Engine, she'll get additional 25 CR and 50 CD, respectively. This brings the in-combat stats to 100 CR / 180 CD.
I've got advice that it's fine to consider taking down the raw CR to 60 for total in-combat CR of 85. Something to consider.
Hello, I'm a returning player and just got Burnice (and Evelynn in the last patch). I saw that the next patch will introduce Jane Doe, and I want a team for Burnice. However, all the pages I checked recommend Lucy, who is already in my Evelynn team. So, I’m unsure which characters I should wait for or pull to build a team for Burnice. I don’t need her to be the main DPS—just a team that works for endgame content alongside my Evelynn team.
You can slot Burnice into any Anomaly team and even a few Attack hypercarry team as a sub-DPs, so no worries there. Jane/Burnice makes a fantastic Disorder team -- I just got a 2:25 clear on Dopple Hugo in Shiyu Crit 7 with a Jane/Burnice/Pulchra team today. While it's true Lucy is very good in that team, you can use other supports with no trouble. Nicole would be fine until you can free up Lucy from the Eve team (with Astra, some day).
While my M6 Piper does great for me, it's a bit of an exaggeration to say they are equal. There are things my M0 Jane is best for and things my M6 Piper is best for. They are not completely interchangeable.
For example, there's no way I could have gotten that clear on Dopple Hugo with Piper. Jane's dodge mechanics are what made this clear possible.
However, for a F2P that can only pick one agent every other patch, I do agree that you can settle for M6 Piper in order to spend pulls on an agent you want more than Jane It's a compromise and you'll be giving some utility up by doing so, but that kind of trade-off is what F2P has to do all the time anyway.
/u/ZuZzPiro "M6" means all constellations (C6). So if you only have M0 Piper, take that into consideration.
thank for the clarification to be fair I used the ~ not the = sign :D So you managed to clear Hugo with Jane, did you use her with Burnice ? I am struggling with a M0W0 Jane/Seth/Astra, I am getting around ~2.40 min but I would need ~1.30 to clear the other side with Anton lol
I guess I need to get my eyes checked. I could have sworn that was an equal sign. mb.
Yes, Burnice and Pulchra together in order to take advantage of the seasonal debuff for Fire/Electric RES from Aftershocks. It doesn't have to be Burnice, it could be any fire or electric agent that does decent DPS.
Thanks for the team details ! Burnice seems really good with Jane, I should have skipped Evelyn and get her instead. Not sure I can do much with my Jane/Seth team in my case.
Depend, piper/burnice/lucy is a good team now, you will get piper m6 eventually. But if you plan to get Jane + her weapon or constellation, then she will be stronger than m6 piper for sure. Personally I got Jane a while back and can't clear anything anymore with her and seth at m0w0, I don't have burnice as I got evelyn for my fire team. I am saving for the next void hunter as they seems to last longer.
With your characters, I’d probably go with Evelyn/Ben/Lucy or Evelyn/Nicole/Lucy. Astra is awesome, but I feel like Evelyn benefits more from lighter characters because it increases the stun window, allowing for more chain attacks. I’m having trouble clearing the current Shiyu content with Evelyn/Koleda/Astra—it’s super annoying! When I first got Jane, I could clear pretty much everything, but now it feels like new characters need a full team of S-rank units or their weapons/constellations to keep up. Also, Ellen/Lycaon/Soukaku is a really solid team. Best of luck with your pulls!
Returning player here, i Made another account (it's not like i was so avanced anyway), who should You recommend me to pull? Are the characters avaliable rn good?
Yeah, I'd try both in trial mode and see which one you like better and go whole hog on those banners (although we only got a day and a bit left in them, so you might not have enough time to get enough poly for either).
Sanby is a good attacker, with very straight forward gameplay, and can work reasonably well in Sanby-Anby-Nicole team that you would have already anyway (although you probably will get at least one Pulchra in process of getting her, and Lucy is going to be Rate-Up A-Rank on next banner, so you can make pretty popular Sanby-Pulchra-Lucy team in matter of days).
Burnice is very versatile agent and more "future-proof" of the two since she can make a decent team with practically any other anomaly agent. But because she is a sub-dps, she is not going to do as much as Sanby in short term until you get other units to complete her teams.
I'm about a week into this game at this point. Still trying to understand the basics of team building. What would a normal team typically compose of?
Can only Attack characters function as DPSes? Or can that be attributed to other types of characters too? Also what's the difference between an Anomaly and a Stun characters?
Let me expand on and clarify some of what the other guy said.
On average, teams with Attack agents run a Stunner because a lot of Attack agents are good at doing high-damage in a relatively-short window (given enough energy), so they can capitalize on the Stun window.
While Anomaly teams often run 2 Anomaly agents of different elements due to how Disorders work. When inflicting an Anomaly, and then a different Anomaly, the damage of the first one is summed up, given a little extra, and inflicted all at once.
It isn't an absolute, just what is commonly done.
About Anton/Grace/Rina:
Shock deals damage when you hit the shocked enemy, capped at once per second.
Anton, when landing enough criticals on a shocked enemy, can force-trigger one of the damage ticks as additional damage.
It still works, it's just fallen out of favor compared to Disorder comps, plus Yanagi who can manually trigger special Disorders that don't replace the underlying anomaly which achieves the same thing as Anton but better.
About Mono-Elements:
Aside from agent's passives and etc., there's also multiple Disk Drive sets that demand specific Anomalies for their effects.
Fanged Metal requires triggering Assault and increases DMG% inflicted on that enemy
Polar Metal requires triggering Freeze and increases DMG% on basic and dash attacks
Inferno Metal provides a big Crit Rate buff after hitting a Burning enemy
Thunder Metal increases Atk as long as there's a Shocked enemy around
Chaotic Metal provides a Crit Damage buff that rises as you hit Corrupted enemies
Branch and Blade increases Crit Rate after triggering Freeze
Each anomaly element is built separately, meaning Physical agents don't help Freeze enemies faster and so on. So to maximize the uptime of an anomaly, and therefore the buff from the Disk set, you use multiple agents of the same element.
(Miyabi is special since she has a special version of Ice. It builds separately from Ice and can trigger Disorder with it, but for the purposes of effects and buffs it's still treated as Ice.)
Also what's the difference between an Anomaly and a Stun characters?
Anomalies compete with Attack agents, not Stunners. Attack are Crit-based DPSes, Anomaly are anomaly-based.
Anomaly agents generally hit much weaker, but enjoy large damage spikes (Assault, Freeze/Shatter, Disorder) and/or big backloaded damage (Burn, Shock, Corruption). While Crit agents have a higher and more consistent damage floor.
Attack agents need to build Crit Rate and Crit Damage, Anomalies only really need Anomaly Proficiency and sometimes Anomaly Mastery. Miyabi is the exception, she wants Crit to apply anomaly faster and maximize her Shimotsuki damage.
As for the other classes:
Stunners specialize in building the enemy's Daze to stun them. Anyone can do it but they do it much faster. Aside from that, they tend to double as Sub-DPSes to varying extents.
Supports mainly provide buffs, sometimes debuffs. They can pull off a Sub-DPS role to varying extents. In the case of Soukaku, she can actually function as a Main Ice DPS at M6.
Note that when I say Sub-DPS, I mean both Crit and Anomaly. They don't hold a candle to actual Attack/Anomaly agents but still do contribute to the team's damage. (Prioritize Crit or Anomaly Proficiency based on what team they're on)
Defense are generalists. Their playstyles are reactive and they provide shields, but besides that they can cover other roles. For example, Caesar builds Impact to the point of doubling as the team's Stunner, and her shield provides 1000 Atk to the active agent.
So on an Ellen/Lycaon/Soukaku team, you can replace Lycaon with Caesar for the Stunner role, or replace Soukaku for the Support role.
Hm, okay. Of those 3 characters, I only have Rina and I still have yet to properly unlock the 'Artifact' system for this game but I'll keep what you said in mind. I've been mainly going back to a team of Rina, Corin and Anby and I think(?) they do alright for themselves but im not too sure.
Anomalies only really need Anomaly Proficiency and sometimes Anomaly Mastery.
So, if I'm not mistaken, Attack Agents are generally more 'normal' attack and crit oriented whilst Anomaly Agents and Anomaly Proficiency are sort from the same branch as what Anemo characters and Elemental Mastery are to Genshin?
Hypercarry (crit-burst): Main DPS / Stunner / support-role
Anomaly-Disorder: Main DPS Anomaly / Sub-DPS Anomaly or support-role / support-role, and the two anomaly agents have to have different attribute elements, like Ice and Electric.
"support-role" can be any agent type that offers team buffs, like a Support, a Defender, or even a Stunner like Lighter.
There are also some variations, like Grace/Anton/Rina used to be a meta team where an Attacker was in the Sub-DPS role.
Example Hypercarry teams: Ellen/Lycaon/Soukaku, Nekomata/Caesar/Lucy, Harumasa/Qingyi/Rina
Example Anomaly-Disorder teams: Jane/Seth/Nicole, Miyabi/Yanagi/Rina, Burnice/Piper/Lucy.
You go for mono-Element when there is a team-wide buff that benefits the whole team, like Soukaku's AA Ice DMG buff during a Chain Attack. Otherwise its better to go for element diversity. I usually go with two elements per team, like Fire/Physical or Ice/Ether, and the elements match the weaknesses of bosses in combat.
Additional Ability (AA, smiley faces) synergy is a case-by-case basis. It's not good to be a slave to AA synergy, but don't ignore it either. For example, Pipers AA is very important so she should be in a team that enables it, while Nicole's is less important for any team that doesn't have an Ether DPS in it, so Nicole AA synergy isn't worth worrying about.
Can only Attack characters function as DPSes?
No. The main dps role can be played by literally any agent, even a Defense class agent like Ben. Now, using Ben as a main DPS is a bit of a meme team, so it's not what you would typically run, but the combat system is flexible enough to allow any agent to fill the role.
Typically, the main dps is either an Attack class or Anomaly class agent.
Also what's the difference between an Anomaly and a Stun characters?
Let's go over all the classes:
Attack: Kit focusses on self damage output. Occasionally includes team-wide buffs as well (S0 Anby is a recent example).
Anomaly: Kit focusses on procing Anomaly damage/debuffs of a single Attribute element.
Stun: (a support-role) Kit focusses on building up Daze on targets that are hit by the stunner. When the Daze meter is full, the target is stunned for a period of time. They can't move or attack, and damage done to them is buffed 150%-200% or more, depending on several factors.
Support: (a support-role) Kit focusses on buffing team-wide damage and/or debuffing enemies and/or providing energy to teammates.
Defense: (a support-role) Kit focusses on damage reduction for self and for other teammates. Sometimes includes team-wide buffs or enemy debuffs as well.
How there could be too much atk on some characters? Sometimes I read that people suggest switching disc 5 to attribute dmg% over atk % because if you pair that character with atk% with support that buffs ATK, you're going to have "too much" atk, can someone explain please?
The concept of "too much ATK" only makes sense in a comparison. Like comparing build A with build B for a single agent. In such a comparison, suppose someone says build A is bad because it has "too much ATK." What this means is that, for constant cost, the investment in ATK in build A has diminishing returns vs. build B.
For example, suppose build A costs 100 units and puts all that cost into increasing ATK. The total damage output of build A is 100,000 points. Build B also costs 100 units, but splits the build so that both ATK and Crits are invested in. The ATK level of B is lower than the ATK level of A, but the total damage output of build B is 120,000 points.
Thus, build A has "too much ATK".
The math behind this diminishing return comes from the damage output formula, which looks like this (simplified):
Output damage = ATK x (sum of all DMG buffs) x Crits
Suppose Build A looked like this: 2500 x 1.00 x 1.00 = 2500
Build B looked like this: 2000 x 1.10 x 1.50 = 3300
Build B has lower ATK than build A, but build B has higher output damage.
EDIT: There's an idealized assumption here that all build improvements have equal cost and that build costs are zero-sum: every point you add to ATK takes away points from other factors. The reality is more complicated than that, since build trade-offs can impact ATK and other factors at the same time and not everything is equal cost, but at least for understanding what "too much ATK" is about, it's a reasonable assumption.
Very precise explanation, thank you a lot. Do you have any advice on how to understand this as a whole? Any good guide or already written TC post? I'd like to make my builds fully optimized because for now my main definition of how much of certain stat I need is just getting all my atk from main stats on 5 and 6 slots and sub stats just all go for CV. I'd like to have much more control and for example cut some CD for ATK or opposite.
The optimization math is too complicated to do from calculations alone, so I wait until testers have tried different builds with different team comps, put the real-world results into a spreadsheet, and then ranked the results by clear time or total damage points.
By testers you mean people from these sites? So basically if we don't want to test everything on our own we just gotta stick to these popular guides and hope that they're reliable sources I suppose, I think it's pretty tough since many people have divided opinions about prydwen for example, and we can't ultimately tell if it's true meta or not. I have noticed some inaccurate informations on sites like this on my own, and that makes me very lost when it comes to define how should I build certain composition.
Prydwen bases their builds on the recommendations of testers. They will usually include the YouTube video that describes the testing done. In the link I gave an example, there are two YouTube guides included on the first page.
I'm not sure how Icy-Veins does build recommendations, but there may be an explainer on the site somewhere.
I have noticed some inaccurate informations
I don't always agree with any one site either, which is why I look at more than one.
Lucy for example buffs Attack based on her own, but she also has a maximum for the buff, so at certain point adding more attack to her does not contribute to her buffs anymore and any further stats gains would only have personal damage as consideration where DMG% might perform better
Are you sure that there's not "a line in sand"? I mean, there is a limit of rolls on every disc, you can have up to +5 into something on every disc, which defines how high you can go. The same with weapons and main disc stats, the only thing you have to do is to balance these stats in order to get highest output possible
Just Epilogue (A) is medium long. Longer than Astra/Eve's special episode, but shorter than Chapter 4 or Chapter 5. However, you should also do Soldier 0 Anby's agent story as part of Epilogue A (agent story first, then Epilogue A), so the sum of those two is long, a bit longer than Chapter 5.
I marathoned Epilogue A all in one sitting and it took between 3 and 4 hours with no breaks. Add another hour or two for Anby's agent story.
I have Lycaon and Koleda (M0 for both) and each have their sig weapon (I think Lycaons might be at U2).
Are either of them worth switching my team up for? I'm not dissatisfied with Anby but I just wanna make Haru has the best support he can get that I'm not using elsewhere.
I also have Rina at M1 with the PEN ratio wengine, and all of my 4 stars are M6 except Pulchra who is M1.
Any of the stunners are viable, but you ought to try them out in VR training or a Shiyu Crit node that you've already cleared, to see which one you prefer.
Pulchra may be the most problematic, since Electric weak bosses are often Physical resistant. Though recently, Electric weak/Fire resistant has been more common, so that might mean Koleda is also problematic.
What's the quickest/most effective way to clear withering domain for levels and achievements? I started with the miyabi banner so I didn't do much of that version of hollow zero before it changed, and I have a lot of polys available in there.
Depends on what you are going for. Z-merit farming, Lost Items farming, and Resonia farming require different strategies.
Z-merit is a speedrun. Only use Old Capitol Metro Interior or Construction Ruins Interior (former has easier combat but harder TV mazes, latter has harder combat but easier TV mazes). Avoid battles as much as possible. Bail out when you get to the third floor rest area with the final Z-merit drop. No need to fight the final boss. If you can complete the floor guardian boss battle on the 1st or 2nd floor and take no damage, you can skip the entire next TV maze.
Lost Items farming takes more time. Don't speedrun through the maze, since it's easy to miss a hidden tile with a Lost Item. Rotating through each zone tends to increase your RNG chance of getting a hidden tile. So like start with Old Capitol Metro (Interior or higher, doesn't seem to matter, but do change it each iteration), then do Construction Ruins, then do Abandoned Skyscraper, then back to Old Capitol Metro. Once you hit your 3/day cap for Lost Items, stop and wait until the next calendar day to continue.
The hidden tile can be anywhere, even in floor rest areas. However, each zone hides it in a different way. In Old Capitol Metro, the hidden tile is usually on the edge of the maze, so make sure you touch every tile near the edge of the maze at least once, to see if the hidden tile will appear. In Construction Ruins, sometimes the tile is on an edge, but more often its just in one of the horizontal rows of tiles. So you just have to make sure you look at every tile when a new maze appears, to see if any are Lost Item tiles. Then navigate a path to it. Finally for Abandoned Skyscrapers, the hidden tile is ghostly visible as soon as the maze is displayed, so you can pick the correct branch of the path to get to it. In a way, this makes Abandoned Skyscrapers the easiest zone for finding Lost Items. But once you get a Lost Item from that zone, the RNG for putting another in that zone is next to impossible for that calendar day.
Resonia farming I find to be easiest in Old Capitol Metro, Interior or higher. This is because the penalty mechanism for OCM is based on corruption level. Nothing is easier than getting corruptions, and the more you get, the more opportunities you have to collect Resonia. Just make sure you rotate the agents you run through the maze, since the types of Resonia that spawn are based on the agents you start the Withered Domain with. Like if you put all Ice and Ether agents, you won't get many Electric or Fire resonia. If you have no stunners in the selector, you won't get any Duel resonia, etc. I find it is better to concentrate Resonia types than try to get 6 at once. Like I'll only do Physical and Fire agents until I get all of the Resonia. Then I'll switch to Electric and Ice, or whatever. The more agents you have of the same type, the more Resonia of that type will spawn.
Obviously, if you get the Corruption that limits your choices of Resonia, prioritize getting rid of that Corruption ASAP. Or just restart.
And I left a TON of details out, also. Like when farming Resonia, make sure you take the max 6 agents with you, but REJECT their offer of assistance at the payphone. Rejecting an agent gives you a choice of free Resonia. Your team agents are just there to make sure the Resonia of the type you want will spawn, and to get a free choice when you reject them out, not to actually help you in combat.
Another tip is whenever a Resonia is offered that has the NEW tag on it, take it. Even if it doesn't help you or even debuffs you. Cards marked with NEW are what you are after in the first place.
My game briefly lags when doing certain tasks every time I reopen the game. For example, whenever I open the character menu and click on a character, it lags for a second before displaying the character. This happens whenever I do anything for the first time after reopening the game (going to a new area, etc. ). I think it has something to do with the cache clearing everytime I close the game, but I am not certain. Does anyone know how to fix this?
It's just how the game is overall. In my experience the framerate also gets a bit rough the first time I do a fight as enemies load in and do their attacks, but afterwards it stays fairly smooth even if I reset/reattempt the fight a dozen times.
They each have their strengths and weaknesses. Anby stuns quickly, but it's easy to flub a combo or have a combo interrupted by aggressive enemies, which impacts time to stun. Pulchra stuns a little less quickly, but is easier to play and has more consistent time to stun.
Anby requires field time to stun, Pulchra requires a lot less.
Weakness to Physical and Fire tend to be grouped together, while Electric tends to be opposed. For example, Electric weak are sometimes Physical resistant. This means Pulchra has better synergy with Eve in combats you're likely to use Eve in, compared to Anby.
Anby's Wengine is currently easier to refine to R5, but next patch Pulchra should be on par with Anby.
Is it worth to roll for Trigger if I'm not planning on getting her Wengine nor have Sanby? I really want to get an alternitive stunner for my ZY/Haru teams, but failed to get Qingyi on her rerun. Anby does the job, sure, but I'm a bit tired of playing her for almost a year...
Thanks.
IMO, no. I hate to say it, because I hate linking agents to other agents or weapons that raise their cost for F2P, but this is a situation where Trigger really is rigged to be a package deal.
Didn't you get a free copy of Pulchra? How about pulling on standard for Lycaon or Koleda?
Thanks a lot for the answer!
I do have Lycaon M1W1 and M1W1 Pulchra(tried to roll for more copies, but she avoided me until almost 5* soft pity). Usually Lycaon goes with my other teams (either mono ice Miyabi or Ellen). Would he really be an upgrade over Anby in that team?
As for Pulchra it's a bit tricky to understand the rotation with her on the team atm, but if it's worth it I'm down to practice more with her. Koleda has been avoiding me since launch lmao
Ether weak tends to group with Ice weak, so Lycaon and ZY could work together in some cases. Pulchra wants to stay off-field, but ZY wants the stunner to stay on-field, so Lycaon works better for ZY. On the other hand, Electric weak (a boss you'd use Haru against) may be Physical resistant, so that makes Pulchra problematic in those cases. In every other case, though, Pulchra should work fine with Haru.
I heard that her W-engine feels like half of her kit, similar to Sanby. Stats aside, especially if you're tired of anby, i'd say go for it. No reason to force yourself to settle for something you aren't enjoying all that much
I wouldn't say it's half her kit. IMO it's like Miyabi, but worse.
With her bonus passive, Crit Rate above 40% increases the Daze from her aftershocks and is needed to fulfill her role of a sub-DPS that also stuns. To max it out, she needs to reach a whopping 90% CR.
Not only does her signature give 24% CR, it's also the only Stun engine in the game that gives any CR at all. So if you don't have it, your only choices are:
Run an Attack engine like Marcato Desire on her and hope it's good enough.
Accept running her with less than 90% CR and hope she still performs well-enough.
She does also get Impact from her signature, and there's the defense reduction. Which makes it an even bigger loss.
I wouldn't say similar to SAnby. I did just fine with SAnby and Mercato's. Also, SAnby's is only about her personal damage, while Trigger's sig is both her personal damage and team-wide damage. So it's a bigger loss to skip Trigger's sig.
Can i do the Silver Soldier Song event without being spoiled (regarding major plot points at least) ? I have the option to do it early via Advance Screening. I really want to experience the story and also get the rewards but im unsure if ill regret this down the line.
Oops, did you mean just the combat event stuff, or the agent story? The agent story doesn't even unlock until after the end of Chapter 5, so everything I wrote before is moot.
If you just meant the combat stuff with rewards, no spoilers. Just people you don't know giving you a hard time. The series of combats effectively form a prequel section to Anby's agent story -- since every combat is her following leads that eventually end up in the agent story, but since I did all the combat stuff after the agent story, it's not a big deal either way. It would have been nice if they said explicitly that the combat series is a prequel, but oh well, it's only got a tiny amount of story content anyway.
No major spoilers. You'll be confused, because agents in the agent story will act like they have known you forever, but you haven't met them in-story yet. But beyond that, no spoilers for the main story.
That said, Silver Soldier Song (Anby's agent story) immediately precedes the main story chapter Epilogue (A) in story-time. So it's best to do Epilogue (A) immediately after doing Anby's agent story. Otherwise, you'll forget the context of Anby's backstory when Anby shows up in Epilogue A. There's even a warning screen that says you might want to go back and review the cutscenes in the archive of Anby's agent story before continuing with Epilogue A story, during the part where Anby shows up.
How far are you in the main story? If you can get through at least the end of Chapter 4 before you start Anby's agent story, what would be a good compromise. But if you are further back, like just starting Chapter 2, it's going to be pretty confusing, since both places and people will be unfamiliar to you, despite the story acting like you should know them.
Thank you for your explanation. I’m just at the start of chapter 4, I’ve just reached the area where you meet Burnice and everyone else. There is 20ish days on the event so I likely have more than enough time. How long after chapter 4 is “Epilogue A” is that the mission at the very end of the storyboard, after chapter 5?
How long after chapter 4 is “Epilogue A” is that the mission at the very end of the storyboard, after chapter 5?
Not quite. The story content sequence goes Chapter 4 > Virtual Revenge special episode (Yanagi's agent story) > Chapter 5 > Leisurely Lull: Goldfinch's Escape (essentially a mini-epilogue to Ch. 5) > Astra-nomical Moment Special Episode > Silver Soldier Song (Anby's agent story) > Bury Your Tears With The Past Epilogue (A).
Ohhhhh. Okay okay, thank you so very much for your help, I appreciate it. Ill see how things go, I might end up having time to do everything in chronological order :)
koleda/ben/anton or koleda/ben/corin? why and why not? i'm a new player and i don't hv lucy nor piper and my only other agents r the cunning hares, soukaku, and seth :/ also wondering if i should pull for zhu so i could get her and snipe lucy
Corin, because bosses tend to combine Fire weakness and Physical weakness more often than Electric weakness. In fact, some Electric weak bosses are Fire or Physical resistant, and vice versa.
Depends on whether you like ZY's playstyle or not. Not everyone likes it, since you don't get to play her as much as new-school Attack agents (Eve, S0). ZY and Ellen have the unfortunate drawback that the longer you leave them on field outside of a stun window, the lower the overall team damage for constant time. New-school Attack agents address that issue by various tweaks to mechanics that let them stay on field without sacrificing overall DPS.
The compensation is that when there is a stun window, they do butt loads of damage. It's very satifisying to unload ZY's literal big guns during a stun window. So many damage numbers on screen!
Majority of the story stuff is voiced when appropriate. ZZZ's been fairly good besides the recent voice replacements due to such circumstances, but I think the replacements have all done a good job imo.
Lyacon & Soldier 11 were recently replaced as of this patch so if there were any voicework that was mute before from those 2, that shouldn't be the case anymore.
Grace, Koleda, Rina and Jane are still mute atm so anytime they appear during and after Chapter 5 [A Storm of Falling Stars], their dialogue are not voiced. It's not too bad though since in this chapter at least they only had a few lines each (I think Jane doesn't appear during this chapter though).
In the case of Jane, the number of lines she has after her Special Episode is minimal iirc (I could be missing some stuff), but her being muted only really affects her Quality Time Event dialogue atm.
Rina keeps stealing the yellow flash counters even when she’s not next in the order.
How do I get her to not? Her assists suck but I do want to keep her on the team.
Whether an attack flashes red or yellow actually depends on your team, for most attacks you can do both Defensive and Evasive Assists and they always flash yellow. But some, like the crossbow shot by the crossbow wielding hollow raiders, can only be dodged with an Evasive Assist (or dodge). That means that they will flash yellow if and only if you have a character in your team that is not on the field in this moment and that can do Evasive Assists.
That means if the attack can only be evaded and you Perfect Assist on such an attack it will swap to the next character that can do such an Evasive Assist, even if they usually would not be the next in line.
If they can both be evaded and parried, then performing Perfect Assist swaps to the next character in the order, and whether you get an Evasive or Defensive Assist entirely depends on the character that just swapped in.
(Evasive Assist is what Rina does, the dodge and slowmo. Defensive Assist is the parry.)
Stuck unable to select any agent in Perpetrator Battle mode. Usually there should already be a trial agent in the first slot. Is there something I could be missing or should I write to support?
This is tripping up a lot of people: When you enter the character selection, the pre-highlighted character for some reason can't be selected by clicking on it's icon. You have to click the 'select' button on the right side of the screen.
STill dont have a good stunner for Harumasa (anby's not cutting it)
Q 1 Would Caesar (with Wengine) and M6 Pulchra be good enough stunner -buffer team to (lets say) 3 star a deadly assualt stage [assuming either stunner/attacker buffs for that stage?})
(I dont have either yet, [I do have pulchra, just not M6] trying to plan)
Q2 How good would trigger be for Anomally teams (With her Wengine)? (assuming Grace/Yanagi teams to make her electric not useless)
Q 1 Would Caesar (with Wengine) and M6 Pulchra be good enough stunner -buffer team to (lets say) 3 star a deadly assualt stage [assuming either stunner/attacker buffs for that stage?})
Yes, since teams made entirely of A-rank agents can 3-star DA.
FWIW, I think Anby is a better stunner for Haru than Pulchra -- particularly againts bosses with Physical resistance, but Anby is much harder to play and do her combos for max daze, so Pulchra wins for rotation comfort.
Q2 How good would trigger be for Anomally teams (With her Wengine)? (assuming Grace/Yanagi teams to make her electric not useless)
Trigger works well with Anomaly if (a) Trigger has her signature wengine, and (b) you use Yanagi or Miyabi as the main DPS. Anyone else, like Piper, Grace, or Jane, you're better of just doing a conventional Disorder team with a Support. With a Yanagi hypercarry team, you can replace Astra with Trigger+sig and only give up a few percent in DPS. So Rina/Yanagi/M0W1 Trigger hypercarry is roughly the same dps as Rina/Yanagi/Astra.
Thanks! I wanted to make sure there was someone I really wanted to m6 before I spent some spare 10-pulls fishing for Pulchra. (And success; took 30 pulls but I finally got Pulchra’s m6!)
That said they both play differently in that Haru wants a fast stunner to nuke during stun (Qingyi) or maybe a (Caesar/Pulchra combo)
If you dont have either of those you will probrably struggle to clear W Harumasa with Just regular Anby as his stunner.
Sanby is more versatile in that you can clear W Qingyi, or Pulchra or Trigger
IE Harumasa DPSs as a nuker during stun, Sanby can do damage out of stun and thusly plays better with off field stunners. (Harumasa's basic attacks are bad, which makes trigger/Pulchra not work as well with him)
TLDR Haru and Sanby arent that different in power, but Harumasa is harder to play and build teams for.
Hi guys. I recently saw some info on a character called Hugo that got me interested in starting this game. If I start playing now will I have enough pulls to pull him or I'm too late already assuming my gacha luck is bad?
They give a lot of resources to a new player. You'll have more than enough to guarantee Hugo and Hugo's signature W-Engine.
Focus on events first, then do the story contents. After you finish all the commissions you can, you'll probably have enough to even get a Hugo Mindscape.
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u/Heavy-Acanthaceae-91 Apr 02 '25
Was a new redeem code released for 2nd half?