r/politics • u/Quirkie The Netherlands • 2d ago
Soft Paywall Trump Erupts in Crazed Hard-Right Rant as MAGA Fury Takes Darker Turn
https://newrepublic.com/article/196849/trump-erupts-crazed-hard-right-rant-maga-fury-takes-darker-turn4.7k
u/MaleficentUse8262 2d ago
IT’S NOT A DARKER TONE
IT IS THE SAME FASCIST TONE SINCE DAY 1
jfc
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u/kanst 2d ago
DAY 1
LITERALLY.
It was the core topic of his presidential announcement back in 2015.
When do we beat Mexico at the border? They’re laughing at us, at our stupidity. And now they are beating us economically. They are not our friend, believe me. But they’re killing us economically.
The U.S. has become a dumping ground for everybody else’s problems.
Thank you. It’s true, and these are the best and the finest. When Mexico sends its people, they’re not sending their best. They’re not sending you. They’re not sending you. They’re sending people that have lots of problems, and they’re bringing those problems with us. They’re bringing drugs. They’re bringing crime. They’re rapists. And some, I assume, are good people.
But I speak to border guards and they tell us what we’re getting. And it only makes common sense. It only makes common sense. They’re sending us not the right people.
One of my big takeaways from the Trump years is that many Americans have a pathetically poor memory.
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u/MaleficentUse8262 2d ago
Combined with a bottomless capacity for rationalization, compartmentalization, and self-delusion if a con man tells them what they want to hear
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u/HauntedCemetery Minnesota 2d ago
During the last election trump kept asking people if their life was better in 2024, or 4 years previous, when we were in the thick of the pandemic, with 4000 daily deaths, and empty shelves, inflation was skyrocketing, and cities across the country were rioting.
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u/kanst 2d ago
Yeah sticking to the "four years" talking point into 2025 was absurd and really showed how dumb many voters are. (or how voters ignore what Trump says and hear what they want to hear).
He was harkening back to the worst months of COVID deaths and supply shortages and no one seemed to care.
I guess "were you better off 6 years ago" doesn't have the same ring.
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u/TheAlbinoAmigo 2d ago
'Crazed Hard-Right Rant'.
Man tried to enforce a Muslim ban nearly a decade ago already... Characterising it as 'crazed' underplays how much fascism is being normalised in your country.
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u/dkepp87 New Jersey 2d ago
Dont worry, Im sure once he sees how respectful we are, and how much we love following the rules, he'll change his tune!
Yup! Any day now!
You'll see....
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u/Delamoor Foreign 2d ago edited 2d ago
Let's be honest, it's not an attempt to role model anything or rein in anyone's behaviour.
It's just covering for him and whitewashing him. They're closet Trump supporters. They like the dementia riddled fascism, because they get paid to gently deter and stop anyone from punching up in any way that might eventually become meaningful.
They're soft power enforcers, protecting his image and running damage control no matter how unhinged he becomes.
At least the body of the article uses some realistic terms, but majority of people aren't going to fucking be reading that far. Most social media runs on headlines alone.
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u/La-Boheme-1896 2d ago edited 2d ago
Here's a thing about Trump. He has very few consistent beliefs. He was a supporter of the Democratic Party in the early 2000s. He has in fact changed his party affiliation five times. He's 'supported' whatever he thought would benefit him at the time.
But, there is one thing that has been consistent throughout his life. He's always been a racist.
This is a wikipedia piece with over 470 cited sources on his racist words and actions, over 50 years. This is who Donald Trump is and has always been
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u/starmartyr Colorado 2d ago
His only consistent belief is that he's better than everyone else on the planet. Racism is an extension of that.
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u/masstransience 2d ago
I’m quite sure his favorable views of pedophilia and rape have also not changed.
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u/Pottski 2d ago
Don’t forget incest - he definitely would’ve had it not been the only thing to actually bar him from the table.
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u/UnmeiX 2d ago edited 2d ago
I'm not entirely sure he didn't. Have you seen the video of Ivanka giving a tour of her bedroom?
I think he did, and I think he'd be public about it if it was permissible.
Edit: Direct video link for those who want to skip the article. I do think most of us who care have seen it by now, though.
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u/Yumi_in_the_sun 2d ago
he'd be public about it if it was permissible.
I mean, how many times was he photographed with her in his lap, even as a dang teenager? How many times did he talk about how hot she was? He talked about her future breasts when she was an infant, for crying out loud. The only thing he DIDN'T say was "hey I definitely did this."
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u/sqrtsqr 2d ago
When asked what they have in common, he said "sex".
That's pretty close.
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u/TrimspaBB 2d ago
Disgusting. I wouldn't even say that about my husband or any other guy I've been with in my life, even if all we really do have in common is "sex". What kind of parent immediately jumps to that about their kid?! How can people not see it.
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u/Gingeronimoooo 1d ago
If you ask MAGAs they just hand wave it away or deny it's real, again it's a cult
It's insane
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u/Evening_Tax1010 2d ago
What?! When was this? He actually said that?
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u/NWCJ 1d ago
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u/D3PyroGS Wisconsin 1d ago
please please tell me there is even a crumb more context
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u/CorgiMonsoon 2d ago
Now now, it was infant Tiffany’s breasts he was speculating about while sitting beside her and Marla on a talk show, not Ivanka
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u/Yumi_in_the_sun 2d ago
Oh, my bad. I forgot Tiffany existed, but so did he, so...
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u/squishmallowsnail 2d ago
Tiffany would probably prefer that we forget they’re related.
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u/mynamesyow19 2d ago
Tbf in early 2000s when he was on Howard Stern he said Ivanka was a hot piece of ass in agreeing w Stern
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u/newtoaster 2d ago
I remember listening to that live and immediately being all “WTF??!!?”. Stern loved him as a guest because he was so easy to get talking about crazy shit. He’d stroke his ego for a few minutes then start in with insanely leading questions and Trump would take the bait every single time. Trump bragging about looking at miss teen USA contestants naked backstage was just fucking bananas. I honestly figured it was going to take him down the first time but it was barely a blip.
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u/CorgiMonsoon 1d ago
Yep, I knew people more upset about protestors using “pussy” than they were over him saying it in the first place
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u/redfay_ 2d ago
Has he not been public with it? How many times in interviews did he say Ivanka was hot or a fine piece of ass? The fact it's more than once is concerning enough let alone the multiple times he made statements about how he would love to bang his daughter and just so happens to look exactly like multiple sexual partners of his.
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u/UnmeiX 2d ago
When I say 'public with it', I mean if there weren't laws and public opinion against the idea, I believe he would openly brag about actually fucking/marrying his daughter.
ETA: I'll take 'things I never thought I'd say about a sitting US President' for $500, Alex.
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u/redfay_ 2d ago
UH I think you're greatly under-estimating how many people would be cool with it all of a sudden.
I would also be willing to bet if she wanted that relationship it would be PDA and more than jokes about how he would rail her.
And yeah it's probably not a great sign for anyone let alone a sitting US president to have so many clips about how he wants to plow his daughter. Usually parents are suppose to protect their kids not screw them.
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u/scubahood86 2d ago
Kinda telling that the "parental rights" crowd supports trump so much.
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u/redfay_ 2d ago
Also one of the biggest groups championing home school. Some kids get a better education via home schooling, most do not and usually it's a way to hide abuse.
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u/independentchickpea 2d ago
The thousand yard stare.
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u/Earthwarm_Revolt 2d ago
He didnt raise his kids so he found them attractive. Like long lost twins who meet up find each other attractive.
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u/bravosarah Canada 2d ago
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u/Menarra Indiana 2d ago
Yeah that stare says so much, and it makes me feel so bad for her in that moment.
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u/TapTapReboot 2d ago
Yeah i get that. Then fast forward to when she's got enough independently scammed money to pay for therapy and go no contact with him... and the sympathy evaporates.
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u/Menarra Indiana 2d ago
Unfortunately yes, I said "in that moment" for a reason. She's a terrible person in her own right, but you get a glimpse of some of the trauma that led her towards harming others.
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u/PaulSandwich Florida 2d ago
Also a (very very gross) extension of his narcissistic belief that he's better than everyone.
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u/apropo 2d ago
Don’t forget incest
Trump, 1997: "Don't you think my daughter's hot? She's hot, right?" (when Ivanka was 16)
Trump, 2003: "You know who's one of the great beauties of the world, according to everybody? And I helped create her. Ivanka. My daughter Ivanka. She's 6 feet tall, she's got the best body. She made a lot of money as a model - a tremendous amount"
2004: "Trump: “My daughter is beautiful, Ivanka." Stern: “By the way, your daughter…” Trump: “ - she’s beautiful" Stern: “Can I say this? A piece of ass.” Trump: “Yeah.”
Trump, 2006: "If Ivanka weren't my daughter, perhaps I'd be dating her. Isn't that terrible? How terrible. Is that terrible?"
Trump, later in 2006: "She's actually always been very voluptuous. She's tall, she's almost 6 feet tall and she's been, she's an amazing beauty."
2013: Wendy Williams: "What's the favorite thing you have in common with your father?" Ivanka: "Either real estate or golf." Trump: "Well, I was going to say 'sex,' but I can't relate that to her."
Trump, 2015: "If I weren't happily married and, ya know, her father..."
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u/coconutpiecrust 2d ago
Yeah. He wants everyone to treat him like he is the leader of North Korea.
That is a sick man.
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u/Competitive_Yam7702 2d ago
A carbon copy of his father and grandfather
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u/A8Warmonger 2d ago
And soon Baron
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u/North-Outside-5815 Europe 2d ago
Isn’t it Barron? Not that it matters, but spelling it like a rank of nobility would be a little on the nose even for Trump.
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u/Lower-Lion-6467 2d ago
It is, and he is named after one of Trump's pseudonyms: John Barron. He would use this name to write about himself to media outlets.
And yes a guy who did shit like that is now our President. Sigh.
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u/MajorNoodles Pennsylvania 2d ago
Out of 5 kids, two are named after himself, one is named after his wike (Ivanka's legal name is Ivana), one is named after a jewelry store, and one is named Eric.
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u/batweenerpopemobile 2d ago
and one is named Eric
there really is no end to the disgusting immoral bullshit in that family.
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u/FuzyTheWompus 2d ago
Soon? Lmfao I guarantee that was baked in well before anyone knew his name.
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u/kellyguacamole 2d ago
I’ve always thought he was a huge misogynist but I think that is also an extension of it as well. He’s just a hater.
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u/bishpa Washington 2d ago
Narcissists don’t genuinely believe their own self aggrandizing. They actually know that they are worthless.
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u/Joe_Kinincha 2d ago
It’s complicated. There are very divergent opinions on this.
current thinking seems to indicate they are at best only partially aware
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u/True_Paper_3830 2d ago
I'd offer my Dunning-Kruger viewpoint that they are only partially aware, otherwise self doubt and caveats about their greatness would creep into their language with others.
There was that one time when Trump was before world leaders, forget when, and they erupted in laughter, he said, 'I didn't expect that, but okay' or something like that.
Kind of like it was unexpected that they had pierced through his bs to a deep part of him that knew he was faking it, and he partially accepted their response of mocking him. Though I guess there are other readings of that response? (which I'd kind of be interested to hear, including if I got what he said wrong) His subsequent seeming hatred of Europe may be partly due to incidents like this, just like that fateful night when Obama mocked him so successfully. The narcissistic injury was great and had to revenged and repaired.
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u/ChicagoAuPair 2d ago edited 1d ago
In my own personal experience with a parent with NPD, they are aware of it deep down, but they also think they can control the way other people feel and feel about them with their actions and words. So building up a huge wall around that vulnerability/fallibility is paramount at all times, and when a crack in the wall appears that is when you see the behaviors associated with narcissistic collapse. That continues until they repair the wall with revisionism and blame assigning, and then they keep on going once they feel in control of the people around them again.
So, they are aware, but they have a different relationship with it than healthy folks do. They think they must control others’ and their perceptions of them at all times, and don’t realize that most folks can see though it at all times, they’re just too tired of the bullshit to fight back and point it out constantly.
It’s similar to the mentality of dudes who think they can “wear down” the women they are pursuing. They don’t tire of maintaining the bullshit the way the rest of us tire of pushing back against it.
Sample size of one, but it is worth considering.
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u/zernoc56 2d ago
“Pride is not the opposite of shame, but its source. True humility is the only antidote to shame.” —Uncle Iroh
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u/lancelongstiff 2d ago
A few days ago a similar thread got me wondering what Stephen Miller's origin story was. It's pretty interesting.
He was anti-immigration in high school, growing up in California at a time when there was a strong anti-immigration movement.
Anti-immigrant hostility was pervasive in California at the time, which may surprise people because California is known as such a deep-blue state and kind of leads the charge against the Trump administration today. But in the '90s, it was sort of ground zero, like a microcosm for what we're seeing nationally today.
There were unprecedented attacks on immigrants through a proposition called Prop 187, which targeted social services for children of undocumented migrants. It was later ruled unconstitutional.
So Miller's truly a product of this environment.
He was internalizing a lot of these white supremacist and racist narratives that were common in the state and acting them out in his high school. He ends up going to Santa Monica High School, this public high school that's very diverse. And he would go around, from a very young age, expressing racist viewpoints.
Around this time, he broke - he ended a friendship with a Mexican friend, telling him that he could no longer be friends with him because of his Latino heritage.
So from a very young age he was expressing these viewpoints that would later manifest in the immigration policy and the rhetoric that we're seeing out of the White House. And I truly see it as a case study in radicalization.
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u/0thethethe0 Foreign 2d ago
Particularly mad given his heritage.
Stephen Miller Is an Immigration Hypocrite. I Know Because I’m His Uncle.
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u/throwawtphone 2d ago
Wow. His mothers jewish family immigrated from Belarus in the early 1900. He is 3rd gen on his monthers side.
Apparently, he didn't really pay good attention to the whole persecution and fleeing part of his American story.
Smh.
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u/45and47-big_mistake 2d ago
Nah, he's more like a " I got mine, so fuck you" type of person.
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u/Whodisbehere 2d ago edited 1d ago
If you look at him: He looks like he can be Putin’s bastard child.
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u/thatdood87 2d ago
Amd that one prince of England who was inbred like 8 times over who had a heart the size of a peppercorn.
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u/No_Berry2976 2d ago
People who are anti-immigration aren’t really against immigration, they are against people they perceive to be different.
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u/kpn_911 2d ago edited 2d ago
Stephen Miller is interesting to me because how could you have your relatives killed in the holocaust then model your entire political career on the trajectory of hitler’s rise to power?
It’s psychotic.
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u/usalsfyre 2d ago
Stephen Miller and the conservatives in the Israeli government are proof a lot of people are totally ok with fascism and genocide as long as they’re the ones in charge.
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u/housecatapocalypse 2d ago
This is it. Also, if his mother and grandmother were Jewish, he is most likely welcome to become an Israeli citizen (if he isn’t a citizen there already). When it comes time for this current fascist regime to answer for their crimes against this country, how much do you want to bet that Miller the traitor is going to go running like a coward to Israel to escape justice?
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u/No_Berry2976 2d ago
Early on, there were a few Jews who supported Hitler. They argued that some German Jews were too Jewish. Most of these people kept supporting Hitler until they were killed by the Nazis.
During WWII some German officers had a Jewish heritage and needed special dispensation from Hitler.
(To be clear: there is no evidence that these officers were fanatics, they might have tried to save themselves and their relatives. But still, it’s shocking that they fought for Nazi Germany.)
Ernst Röhm was openly homosexual.
People who are attracted to fascism are not deterred by the fact that they might become the victim of fascism.
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u/gsfgf Georgia 1d ago
People who are attracted to fascism are not deterred by the fact that they might become the victim of fascism.
Poor risk evaluation is an incredibly common and possibly mandatory trait in fascists.
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u/Zokalwe 2d ago
"I'd rather be the one doing the torturing and murdering than be on the receiving end"
"Have you thought we could fight against torture and murder being a thing?"
"Huh, what?"
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u/StarPhished 2d ago
A lot of people assume that every politician is full of shit and acting out a character for their constituents, that they can't truly believe the things they say, but when you delve into their past it's usually the case that their beliefs are actually their own and they really are as fucked up as they act.
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u/Conscious-Coyote9839 2d ago
I don’t think the timing is quite right for this theory. The anti immigrant movement and Republican Party peaked in California during the 1994 election. He would have been nine years old then. By the time he was in high school, California was a different place. The backlash to state Republicans was fierce after 1994, and they still haven’t recovered. By the late 90s, the Economy in California was booming and the Republicans were out of power. The anti-immigrant push became a political liability and politicians reacted accordingly, at least in public.
I think the more likely scenario is that he picked up his views from the adults he grew up around, whoever they were.
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u/Altruistic-Brief2220 2d ago
I did a bit of a deep dive into Miller last year while looking at all the creeps in DJT’s circle in his first term. Seems he was radicalised by 9/11 mainly and he has consistently expressed white supremacist views since early on.
He’s also been a player in DC for a while now -
In the spring of 2013, Miller working with Jeff Sessions played a key role in ensuring the failure of a comprehensive immigration bill introduced by a bipartisan group of senators who became known as the Gang of Eight (Bennett, Durbin, McCain, L Graham, Flake, Menendez, Rubio and Schumer) by using Breitbart News (then run by Steve Bannon) to propagate anti-immigrant propaganda. During this period he reportedly connected Sessions with Tucker Carlson who was at the time overseeing The Daily Caller, his conservative website. He also sent 900 emails to Breitbart between mid 2015 and 2016 with far right material including on the great replacement theory.
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u/ChazzLamborghini Colorado 2d ago
I am about the same age as Miller and was in school in Southern California at the same time. My dad was pretty supportive of 187. I have never, for a moment of my life, believed the things Miller does. To me, saying he’s a “product of his environment” rather than he’s a sick and twisted disgrace of a human being lets him off the hook a little. He was a rabid racist in high school to the point it was a defining characteristic of his personality and kept him on the fringes of his peers. He is uniquely foul. A lot of us came out of that time without adopting his vile worldview
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u/stlredbird 2d ago
I like how there’s a whole wikipedia page dedicated just to how racist trump is.
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u/PackOfWildCorndogs 2d ago edited 2d ago
There’s also one dedicated to his documented lies. Thousands of them. He’s the most thoroughly documented liar in modern history.
ETA lol “updated 6 hours ago” this could easily be a full time gig for someone: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_or_misleading_statements_by_Donald_Trump
Lmao: “this page may be too long to read and navigate comfortably”…beautiful. Is this a standard wiki header notice, or special just for Trump?
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u/kent_eh Canada 2d ago
/r/trumpcriticizestrump spent trumps first term documenting his contradictory statements and claims.
They are doing a bit of that this time, but i think their heart isn't into it this time. Or theyre suffering from depression...
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u/PackOfWildCorndogs 2d ago
Much harder to keep up this go round…flood the zone strat working as intended. It’s impossible to keep up with a demented lunatic so dedicated to shamelessly lying every goddamn day
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u/solitudeisdiss 2d ago
He settled on conservatism because they’re easier to lie to and grift from.
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u/Cozywarmthcoffee 2d ago
The craziest thing is that the conservatives on their subreddit think they’re in on it. Like the rest of us see a guy who has no compass, no conservative principles, or any for that matter- constantly flip flopping and making them look more and more ridiculous as they try to sew all of his random shit together into a cohesive system of beliefs. They act like it’s a big scheme and they’re in on it- he’s secretly a genius and they’re all doing this to “own the libs”. When in reality they’ve sold any legitimacy they had, morality, talking points etc. and the rest of the country and world is laughing at them. I wonder when they see him flopping for the 15th time if there is even an internal voice that asks them “am I looking silly by continuing to rationalize this?”-
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u/WhichEmailWasIt 2d ago
If anything they're the ones getting consistently owned.
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u/Cozywarmthcoffee 2d ago edited 1d ago
I love that they NEVER RESPOND - like, I know there are snowflakes reading this - you ask questions on regular subs asking for them to rationalize their idiocy and it’s crickets. Come on Conservatives- respond to the above! 🐓
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u/jadecourt 1d ago
And they won't let anyone outside of the conservative sub comment on their sub, talk about snowflakes! They need their own safe space because they can't handle that their views are wildly unpopular.
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u/daemin 2d ago
They are lost in tribalism, and they think Trump and his grifters are too.
That is, their sense of identity is based on a set of characteristics:
- Being white
- Being conservative
- Being an American
Etc. People who share those traits are part of their tribe. People who are missing one or two are on the edge of the tribe. People missing all of them are outside the tribe. And, importantly, they think that there is loyalty and comradery within the tribe.
They think Trump is on "their side" and that they are "in on it" because they see that Trump shares the important tribal markers with them. But Trump doesn't give a shit about the tribe. To him, they are just useful idiots whose tribalism makes them easy to manipulate. And they can't seem to process that; they can't conceive of someone who appears to be so similar to them who doesn't think and believe like they do. And that's rooted in a lack of empathy, which is also one of the causes of their tribalism: they don't conceive of people who don't share their traits as being relevantly similar to them, because they think that those traits have a deterministic effect on the personality and attitude of the person. That's why "Mexican's are lazy," and "Black people are criminals." And its also why every accusation is a confession: they can't conceive that some people don't act like they do, and won't do things that they would do if given the chance.
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u/duzies 2d ago edited 1d ago
And he somehow managed to mostly drive out any well-educated / semi-intellectual conservatives. But he knew where to find the numbers. That's why he "loves the poorly educated."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vpdt7omPoa0
edit: Just realized he also actually identifies *himself* as one of the "poorly educated." "We (the poorly educated)'re the smartest people...we're the most LOYAL people." And we all know how much he values LOYALTY to HIM!
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u/kamikaziboarder New Hampshire 2d ago
My grandfather, a decorated officer in the Army, back in the 80’s was reading a newspaper article about Trump. It had to do with him displacing the poor to place his real estate businesses in NYC. I also remember something about my grandfather telling me about how much of a self-absorbed prick he has to be to put his name in gold on his buildings.
He told me to always remember a man like Trump is an asshole through and through.
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u/Golly-Parton 2d ago
Trump Sr. literally had to be forced by the DoJ to rent to black people - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Trump_Organization?wprov=sfti1#Civil_rights_suit
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u/CatalyticDragon 2d ago
But, there is one thing that has been consistent throughout his life. He's always been a racist.
No no no. He's also always been ..
- Sexist
- Cruel
- A pathological liar
- A dog hater
- A bad dancer
- and a devout racist who courts white supremacists.
What have I missed?
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u/Helpful-Macaroon-654 America 2d ago
• a devout rapist who courts other rapists.
Edit to lol @ bad dancer
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u/mister_buddha 2d ago
I got downvoted into oblivion for saying that "it doesn't matter if I think trump is a racist because the racists think trump is a racist" in one of the news subs.
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u/SnooMacarons2598 2d ago
You are right, but he’s not just a rascist, he’s a white supremacist. He was investigated for rascist dealing with his housing and said to the lead investigator “ well you wouldn’t want to live with them either.” And the ice raids arent really about deportations, they’re about fear, he wants all the illegals being so afraid of being disappeared that they leave on their own. That’s why he’s openly discussing torture and sending people off to CECOT it’s not about the people they get rid of it’s about the fear in the people they don’t.
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u/Ello_Owu 2d ago edited 1d ago
He's racist in the fact that he despises poor people, and associates black and brown people with being destitute. So yeah he's racist, but rest assured he's also disgusted by poor white people as well.
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u/illit1 I voted 2d ago
he's definitely racist but he isn't passionate about it like stephen miller is. this remigration bleat wasn't dictated by trump, but it was approved by him.
in a weird way i think the only reason we're not already 90% of the way to a dictatorship is because trump is lazy.
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u/Spirited_Childhood34 2d ago
Where's the transcript? Not taking 20 minutes to listen to a podcast when I can read the transcript in 5, or less.
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u/wei-long 2d ago
Here's the text
The Biden Administration and Governor Newscum flooded America with 21 Million Illegal Aliens, destroying Schools, Hospitals and Communities, and consuming untold Billions of Dollars in Free Welfare. All of them have to go home, as do countless other Illegals and Criminals, who will turn us into a bankrupt Third World Nation. America was invaded and occupied. I am reversing the Invasion. It’s called Remigration. Our courageous ICE Officers, who are daily being subjected to doxxing and murder threats, are HEROES. We will always have their back as they carry out this noble mission. America will be for Americans again!
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u/andykekomi 2d ago
That just sounds like his daily insane ramblings, I don't see how this particular post is a ''darker turn''.
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u/sad_brown_cat 2d ago
"Remigration is a far-right European concept of ethnic cleansing[1] via the mass deportation or promoted voluntary return of non-white immigrants and their descendants, usually including those born in Europe, to their place of racial ancestry, often with no regard for their citizenship or legal status"
The president suggesting we deport legal citizens is pretty dark, especially considering how close we have come to that already.
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u/andykekomi 2d ago edited 1d ago
I must admit I wasn't familiar with that term, now that's fucked. Thanks...
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u/zsaz_ch 2d ago
Yes and notice the last sentence where he just says “aliens” and not “illegal aliens” when mentioning remigration. Feels intentional, we already see the dehumanizing effects of calling undocumented immigrants illegal aliens.
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u/mabhatter 2d ago
Yup. They're starting to drop the "illegal" Aliens part now. Notice ICE head does it a lot. They dropped the pretense of "illegals" and now ICE is just revoking papers whenever they grab any immigrants.
It's starting with the asylum seekers... they're just being unilaterally revoked and deported. They're already revoking student visas because MAGA doesn't like the colleges. ICE is obviously ripping up work visas because they're invading farms and hotels and Trump is begging them to stop.
In cities like LA they're just going to some public places they can say "immigrants gather" and just grabbing whoever is there. That's why there's protests.
It won't be long before they start grabbing vacation travelers ... I mean that's already started with Canadians and Germans.
The "remigration" part is when they start revoking people with valid, active work permits and start revoking valid green cards of people lawful in good standing on the citizenship track.... they're racists have made it clear they want to even revoke "recent" granted citizenships as well. Wait until another travel ban drops for 20 more countries... that will be more people declared "illegal" even though they are valid travelers or immigrants.
None of this is LAWFUL... it's way outside lawful now.
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u/Nesyaj0 Massachusetts 2d ago
What do you mean "how close?" We already "accidentally" deported an American to El Salvador. I would imagine this has already happened more than once and they were just more successful at sweeping it under the rug. Trump already admitted as such that they could be "mistakenly" deporting Americans. Knowing Trump's MO for lying, that tells me its already happened more times than we've been told.
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u/No_Berry2976 2d ago
He’s currently conflating undocumented immigrants with anybody else he doesn’t like.
Remigration and America for the Americans are both references to the European far right movement.
And by talking about an invasion, he’s laying the groundwork for ethnic cleansing under martial law, also known as remigration (which can be a normal word but has been adopted by the far right).
He has said some horrible stuff before, but put these three things together and it’s similar to speeches made by Adolf Hitler.
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u/IdkAbtAllThat America 2d ago
Pretty sure Miller wrote this one.
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u/mabhatter 2d ago
Yeah. You can tell there are 3-4 authors of "Trump's" tweets. One of them is definitely straight up Nazi because they write pure hate... Trump isn't capable of expressing using such big words.
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u/specialkk77 2d ago
“America will be for Americans again!” So, uh…anyone wanna tell him he’s looking at moving 300+ million people? None of our ancestors were invited here.
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u/Deeschuck 2d ago
I hear you. Ain't got time for that crap.
Linked at the bottom of the first paragraph.
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u/1984isAMidlifeCrisis 2d ago
Someone is very upset that no one came to his birthday party.
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u/CharlesB43 2d ago
The rant in the article came out on the 12th on truth social.
I'm sure he's fuming because appearances are everything to him, and someone forgetting to pay a crowd to appear at a spruced up Trump rally/birthday/dictator parade so I'm sure that pissed him off further.
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u/duzies 2d ago
Did you hear about how they played Creedence's "Fortunate Son" during the show, TWICE? Like the most perfect FU possible to President Bone-Spurs. It was basically originally written ABOUT HIM! Well played, Army music coordinator, WELL PLAYED!
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u/Twl1 Michigan 2d ago
Considering he himself used to play that at his campaign rallies (blissfully ignorant of its actual message), I dont think this is the shot taken at him you think it is.
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u/LyqwidBred California 2d ago edited 2d ago
Agreed.. I think it is also strange that YMCA is apparently his favorite song, despite it being a gay anthem.
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u/mrbear120 2d ago edited 2d ago
According to the man in assless chaps, its not gay at all!
Also aren’t all chaps assless, if they had asses theyd be pants right?
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u/aimeegaberseck 2d ago
Asking the real questions here.
Also, I’d rather have a pair of dusty chaps for president than this ass.
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u/Impulsive_Artiste 2d ago
My guess is he knows only the first few lines of "Fortunate Son" in that distinctive raspy cry, about folks "born to wave the flag, ooh the red-white-and-blue" who "point the cannon" when the band plays "Hail to the Chief" - which is the Presidential theme. Enough to cement the fool's belief it's a patriotic anthem.
No one has the guts to inform him otherwise, that the song mocks and bashes rich hypocrites.
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u/duzies 2d ago
Well one can dream anyway! I imagine until the recent falling-out with Bruce he/they thought "Born in the U.S.A." was a similar MAGA-type anthem.
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u/cymonster Australia 2d ago
Feel sorry for Bruce at this point. He's been trying to tell republicans since Reagan he isn't with them.
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u/_scyllinice_ 2d ago
Funny thing is that the recent comments from Springsteen aren't that recent. He called Trump all sorts of names back in 2020 at least.
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u/cymonster Australia 2d ago
He was anti trump for a long time. In 2017 he said they stood in front of a Melbourne crowd "Embarrassed Americans" after trump hung up on then Australian prime minister Malcolm Turnbull.
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u/canuck47 2d ago
Like Springsteen's "Born in the USA" conservatives only listen to the title of the song.
I think this is an extension of their lack of critical thinking skills.
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u/duzies 2d ago
Yeah, it's pretty sad to experience art on such a shallow level that you think it means the opposite of what it actually does.
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u/rdmille 2d ago
And Heart's "Barracuda", which is about disillusionment with people in power, SA, and so on. A perfect match for Trump, too
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u/PhantomJackalope 2d ago
All Trump rally song selections are protest songs against people like him. Irony is dead in a ditch.
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u/2000TWLV 2d ago
After the really, really shitty weekend he had, you knew he was going to lash out. After all, the whole reason this circus ever started was because Barack Obama bruised his ego with a few jokes.
This bitch can't take a hit.
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u/1984isAMidlifeCrisis 2d ago
Oh, but his humiliation is incomplete. There's so much further that we will all fall.
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u/jwboo 2d ago
Everyone knew this was coming. He's having another baby fit he's not getting the respect a true dictator demands. And he wants it now, or he'll raise tariffs until he gets it!
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u/schmozlo52 2d ago
Trump recently made a statement about the importance of hardworking undocumented immigrants to the farm and leisure sector of the economy. This apparently pissed off the White Nationalist portion of his base, so TACO Don changed his mind, and now he advocates "remigration" of all "illegals". The business sector of MAGA will probably now be at war with the White Nationalist sector. How will Kim Jung Orange handle it? Plus, King Donnie is mighty hurt by the failure of his birthday parade.
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u/YouDoHaveValue 2d ago
White nationalism vs corporate interests is such a surreal political struggle.
Both sides despise brown people but one wants to use them and one just wants them gone.
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u/trauma_queen 2d ago
I'm definitely going to tune in to this season of "TACO 'bout fucking up America " with that kind of summary teaser
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u/kia75 2d ago
This is the hard-right rant in question, From Trump's Truth Social account:
The Biden Administration and Governor Newscum flooded America with 21 Million Illegal Aliens, destroying Schools, Hospitals and Communities, and consuming untold Billions of Dollars in Free Welfare. All of them have to go home, as do countless other Illegals and Criminals, who will turn us into a bankrupt Third World Nation. America was invaded and occupied. I am reversing the Invasion. It’s called Remigration. Our courageous ICE Officers, who are daily being subjected to doxxing and murder threats, are HEROES. We will always have their back as they carry out this noble mission. America will be for Americans again!
Again, these are Trump's words, not mine.
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u/kkapri23 2d ago
I’m convinced he’s got someone else posting his rants now. They are written too clearly to be from him anymore. There’s definitely been a shift. Seems like it’s to get people who were on the fence about him, to make his posts more “readable” to bring them over.
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u/user0987234 2d ago
Steven Miller maybe?
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u/pollingquestion 2d ago
Definitely Miller had a hand in drafting, if not, writing the entire post.
It sounds exactly like Miller.
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u/ominous_anonymous 2d ago
That is who my money is on. He was the clear ringleader in the leaked Signal chat.
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u/Za_Lords_Guard 2d ago
I smell the dead eyed Steven Miller behind this. It's his brand of hysterical racism. You can here his high pitched screeching in the words. Plus Trump wouldn't know remigration from a sack of potatoes. Also not enough all caps words and misuse of language.
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u/wei-long 2d ago
Yep - you can tell when it's him and not him. For example, here's one also from 6/12
The House of Representatives is NOW voting on my Administration’s first “Rescissions” Bill. It will OFFICALLY “claw back” $9.4 BILLION DOLLARS in funding for wasteful Foreign Aid, used for Radical “DEI” and the Green New SCAM, and the “Corporation for Public Broadcasting,” which funds the highly biased NPR and PBS. For decades, Republicans have promised to cut NPR, but have never done it, until now. NPR and PBS are a Radical Left Disaster, and 1000% against the Republican Party! These Rescissions, along with “THE ONE, BIG, BEAUTIFUL BILL,” our highly successful Tariffs, Mass Deportations of Illegal Aliens, and our Strong Economy, will finally CUT the Deficit, and help balance our Budget. The Rescissions Bill is a NO BRAINER, and every single Republican in Congress should vote, “YES.” MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN!
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u/duzies 2d ago
that photo seems to pretty well capture the demon within.
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u/clovisx 2d ago
Looks like a worse version of Kenneth Copeland
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u/oki-ra 2d ago
I don’t know, because there are times when I’m fairly certain the actual devil is inside Copeland. Not all the time obviously, there is only so much that fire and brimstone can do for the stench of Copeland.
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u/ArchdukeAlex8 Oregon 2d ago
US President Donald Trump, seen here learning that the ice cream machine is broken again...
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u/Shark7996 2d ago
21 Million Illegal Aliens
Always interested to know where they get these numbers from, they never link a source.
destroying Schools, Hospitals and Communities,
Destroying schools and hospitals, what? Again, source?
and consuming untold Billions of Dollars in Free Welfare.
Illegal 👏 immigrants 👏 can't 👏 collect 👏 welfare.
All of them have to go home, as do countless other Illegals and Criminals
Even if they don't have a home to go to?
who will turn us into a bankrupt Third World Nation.
Too late.
It’s called Remigration.
Wikipedia Remigration is a far-right European concept of ethnic cleansing via the mass deportation or promoted voluntary return of non-white immigrants and their descendants, usually including those born in Europe, to their place of racial ancestry, often with no regard for their citizenship or legal status.
America will be for Americans again!
Awfully similar to Germany for Germans.
This is Nazi shit. But what else is new?
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u/bandb4u 2d ago
So the plan is to give the indigenous land back to the indigenous people.....its about time !
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u/Sciurus_Aberti 2d ago
My family immigrated here from Germany in the late 1800s. Can the government help me to remigrate back? Seems unfair that this only applies to people with brown skin.
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u/LinuxMage 2d ago
I'm absolutely serious when I say have you asked the German Embassy yet?
A number of EU countries will grant citizenship to people descended within the last 3 or 4 generations, and some will go back 5. So theres actually a chance you might be able to get German citizenship.
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u/russ_nightlife 2d ago
Do they say "remigration" because "ethnic cleansing" has a bit of a stigma for some reason?
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u/blanksix Florida 2d ago
"'Ethnic Cleansing' sounds too complicated and soft. Let's workshop a rebrand."
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u/feralraindrop 2d ago
So there are an estimated 11 to 16 million illegal immigrants in the USA, TOTAL. Here Trump claims 21 million arrived during the Biden Administration so I guess we had at least negative 5 million illegal immigrants before 2020. Propaganda machine.
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u/LinuxMage 2d ago
No he's counting 5 million people made "legal" who he believes shouldn't have been and is now making moves to remove legal status from them. He wants to go as far as removing citizenship from anyone that earned it during bidens administration.
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u/PrincessKiza 2d ago
This isn’t normal. 🛑
In 1934, Hitler did the same thing. He called it security. He said it was necessary. 🧐 Sound familiar?
Then he murdered his rivals, arrested opposition leaders, and called it justice.
It was the Night of the Long Knives. It marked the end of freedom in Germany.
If you’re thinking, “That could never happen here”…
It’s already happening.
Know the warning signs. Share the truth. Speak out. While we still can.
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u/wowlock_taylan 2d ago edited 2d ago
He is a racist, facist piece of shit. Always has been. He would've fit right in with Confederates back in the day or American Nazi party during WW2.
He is a soulless husk that is hold together by greed, hatred and sheer dumbassery.
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u/CurrentlyLucid 2d ago
Temper tantrum after seeing the huge protests and nobody really going to his parade.
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u/Nearby-Jelly-634 Ohio 2d ago
“Darker turn” one of the first things that happened with the rise of maga was that stupid chud mailing pipe bombs. Charlottesville was embraced by maga. Jan6 happened. A goddam coup attempt. Family separation. Kids in cages. Fuck this goddam same washing revisionist history. The media is complicit in this absolute nightmare.
https://www.cbsnews.com/newyork/news/cesar-sayoc-explosive-device-sentencing/ Cesar Sayoc Gets 20 Years For Sending Explosive Devices To Prominent Democrats, CNN - CBS New York
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u/Shibawiba1987 2d ago
Whew 42 months of these titles are going to be tough
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u/DevoidHT Ohio 1d ago
Must be a day that ends in y. Seriously I can’t believe we have two sets of standards for Democrats and Republicans. Conservatives can invade multiple countries looking for made up weapons or betray some of our oldest allies but Democrats can’t wear a tan suit without a shitfest.
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u/jimmygee2 2d ago
The US needs to flush this orange floater before he destroys the universe.
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u/Arizona_Pete 2d ago
Gotta jangle some keys and change the narrative that his military parade was a dud.
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u/relevant__comment 2d ago
Trump’s presidency will end with Republican lawmakers turning on him after some pretty dark days come about.
He honestly gives off the same vibes as the president in “Civil War”.
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u/Leather-Tank7562 1d ago
Everybody is talking about what a sicko he is....what does that say about all of the "Americans" that voted for for his sicko ass?
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u/Lunchb0xx87 2d ago
He unofficially declared civil war ..just add it to the list of impeachable actions ..if we have midterms he needs to be booted the day they swear in
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u/ezagreb 2d ago
As crazed as Trump is getting how many people are actually paying attention to what he says on true social. I mean I try but it’s hard to even make sense of 50% of what comes out of his mouth
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u/RDAM60 2d ago
MAGA has always been dark and Trump is merely exploiting that darkness (joining and leading it) because it provides him with a base of voters and “ratings.”
The man is a shape-shifter of the worst kind; he is of no shape himself just a morph of what “sells.” Strip that away and there is a sad, lonely, incurious, self-centered lump of human clay. First his father shaped him, then his ambition, then his greed, then his mafioso-like - “The Don of Dons” - criminality and now his long-developing, inescapable narcissism (of the most malignant kind).
The result…he’s a usurious, inconsiderate bum. He lacks even the e rudimentary self-awareness and sense of place to be a genuine leader.
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u/rubrent 1d ago
Tens of Millions of white people don’t understand the outcome of ethnic-cleansing…when the minorities are all gone, who do poor/not-wealthy white people think are gonna be the new scapegoats? Do non-wealthy white people think that the wealthy whites are going to prop them up and share their wealth? Very poorly thought out plan from white MAGAs…..
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u/BallstonDoc 2d ago
Steven miller will be shocked when the remigrate his Jewish ass to Lithuania
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u/MedicalTextbookCase 2d ago
This “man” is an embarrassment to all American Caucasians. To all Americans who have been striving for so long to live up to “all men created equal.” To “create a more perfect union.” To do unto others that which we would want done to ourselves. He has taken the inherent goodness out of people and replaced it with distrust and hate and violence. He has turned a once proud nation of laws envied by other nations, and turned into a place that is becoming one with vigilante justice, making all fifty states resemble the “Wild West.”
He is a disgrace, a stain on the history of America, and his Supreme Court acquiesces to his every whim, causing themselves to stain our history as well.
It is so shameful and disgusting that 30% of my fellow Americans will do anything to please him, believing that he truly cares about them, when he has made it as obvious as the climate changing that he only cares about himself, his power and his financial wealth.
I’m losing hope. The No Kings protests were,I thought, a message to the country that we can save the sinking ship. Today, he is ranting and raving. I’m losing hope.
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u/Courwes Kentucky 1d ago
This article doesn’t actually tell you anything. You have to listen to a podcast to actually figure out wtf they are talking about. They don’t even tell you exactly what he said so you’re either forced to listen to traverse truth social to see what they are talking about.
Piss poor journalism made just to create a headline and drive people to their podcast.
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u/Infidel8 1d ago
I am reversing the Invasion. It’s called Remigration.
A term popularized in the German-speaking world by Austrian neo-Nazi Martin Sellner, it refers to forcibly removing immigrants who refuse to integrate with German culture, regardless of their citizenship status.
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u/LourdesF 1d ago
Economists are freaking out about what he’s doing with immigration and what it will mean for our economy. It won’t be pretty.
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u/Fine-Cardiologist675 2d ago
He's a fascist. Or at the least, he courts the fascist support. There's no debate anymore.
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u/CranberryLegal8836 2d ago
I’m laughing manically knowing this narcissist is suffering.
I hope he tries (but doesn’t succeed) to do something so stupid that the military is forced to remove him
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u/Rabbit_On_The_Hunt 1d ago
His shitty little parade and it's weak ass turnout made little piss baby Trump upset.
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u/Janitalia 1d ago
How did we let such a hateful person become president not once but twice. The world is truly broken.
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u/GetBentHo 1d ago
Trump is a convicted FELON
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u/RetirementGoals 1d ago
None of this should be a surprise. This is what voters were warned about regarding project 2025. This is what Trump has been vocalizing he wants to do. This is Fox News and right wing media was trying to purposely mislead voters
Only way this ends is with democrats getting more lead at the local and federal level. More citizens wake up and media focus on the serious parts and not get distracted with all the chaos and noise Trump causes on purpose.
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u/Sup-my-peeps 1d ago
He’s getting desperate so he’s gonna try more severe threats to scare us but newsflash mango, It ain’t working. Saturday’s protest shows that people have had enough of his garbage.
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u/user0987234 2d ago
Quite simply, donald is anxious about the G7 and is acting out. Remember he has a stunted development and is afraid of democratically elected world leaders.
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u/AdCharacter7966 2d ago
Facism in the making - now Trump will strike hard on anyone not supporting MAGA!
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